dogfish180 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 They could even use some of the fines money to buy a powerpoint projector..... Saving the planet from all the vinyl they are printing for one time use..... Muppets!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Wonder where else you can buy EU passports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Its interesting that biometrics are being pushed in Thailand as a criminal control issue, in Saudi as a social control issue, in the UK as an ease to travel and less documentation issue and in China a political control issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, nauseus said: Wonder where else you can buy EU passports? 31 minutes ago, nauseus said: Wonder where else you can buy EU passports? You dont need to buy them they give em away free! Germany gave a million away to Syrian Afghani and north African activists in one year. Thousands of immigrants in the UK now have EU passports. The EU/UK passport queue at LHR looks the line at the Afghanistan/Pakistan border. Under Blair the British Labour party cheated in hundreds of thousands of mainly muslim immigrants to change voting patterns and to ' rub their noses in it' ..to punish white people, especially working class people who objected to the mass immigration experiment. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Pisdjuk said: Excellent! Thailand should not be known as a transit camp for foreign criminals and terrorists! Try Viktor Bout, try Kalid Shiekh Mohammed! Both apprehended in Thailand! Google them if you don't know who they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Maybe they installed the system in full knowledge of declining western tourists. Meaning a higher percentage of bad guys coming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: Maybe they installed the system in full knowledge of declining western tourists. Meaning a higher percentage of bad guys coming... Its frightening to think why it took them that long to buy and use it when tourist numbers are half of entire population. But looks like now they are super happy as the amount of money being made in fines paying itself off.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Blimey! An ever bigger success story than the TM30! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatupThailand Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Wake Up, It's all about the money. This entire story is just a BS PR deflection to justify 2 Billion being spent for military toys. Think about it, you got a phone that uses a scan of your face or fingerprint to unlock, using a "biometric system", so how much did your phone cost ? Think About it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Biometrics is the future in all developed nations. What's sad is that refugee families are getting nabbed at the airport, while wiser criminals are slipping across land borders and hiding far from any biometric scanner or official that doesn't accept brown envelopes. Still a step in the right direction. The days of jumping on a plane to Taiwan or Thailand to duck a warrant are over. Now if Immigration would just take some time to review the "business" visas of all those Russians and Chinese running around the Kingdom . . . baby steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miami007 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 10 hours ago, Old Croc said: It's happening now in China. Check out their Social Credit System, and what they're doing with facial recognition. Every citizen is being tracked and categorized. Facial recognition also starting in the USA - if you use Global Entry they just take a picture of you and the receipt has your name, passport etc... Some airlines use it to board planes... If a picture of your face taken in the USA verifies that you are who you are when you hold a EU passport, do you still believe that computers are not connected across borders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miami007 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 How does the biometric system at arrival identify an overstay? Or does the biometric system capture my intent to stay longer? that would be a ground-breaking system worldwide. or is that system working at departure and matching arrival and departure dates? Which would be possible. But these are overstayers who actually are leaving... still won't catch the overstay inside the country. So not security benefit. Another case of weak reporting.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 13 hours ago, Mango Bob said: So do away with the damn TM 30 and use biometrics if it so good. That's to sensible for this lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckenfell Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 13 hours ago, mikebell said: That's the bottom line. All laws in Thailand are for the benefit of the enforcers not the country. So TM30 is just for money raising ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckenfell Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Chelseafan said: To be fair he didn't say 45,000 arrests, he said 45,000 were checked and found to be overstaying. I suspect most of these would be Cambodians, Burmese etc. So nothing to do with Farang then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckenfell Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 10 hours ago, Angry Dragon said: apples and oranges Can't do that, might lose some tea money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckenfell Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 8 hours ago, ChipButty said: In the National Stadium They used to have an old wire caged truck at the old Koh Samui Immigration office, it has disappeared, so maybe they are using that, just a coat of paint would be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckenfell Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 8 hours ago, samsensam said: if the TM30 system was fit for purpose how come there are so many overstaying foreigners i the country - it should have been easy to round them up without the 2 billion baht spend on a new system... Thai efficiency of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 14 hours ago, webfact said: ...making Thailand look good Again, that's all that matters. Looking good. Face. If that is what you want, then for a start, consider going on a diet and getting trim (not necessarily fit - that's a different thing). Or have your tailor make the uniforms in a way that don't show your appendages. Tight is sexy, but it does not work with clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasuwan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I came though immigration and had no problems a few weeks ago. It's a new system and takes time to settle in. All I read on this forum is constantly bashing Thailand. I've lived here for over 20 years. And I'm personally very happy here. If its so bad leave! Remember Thailand didn't ask you to come here. This is the main reason why I avoid Farangs. All you Trolls and moaners. Get a hobby. ???????????????????????????????? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 38 minutes ago, Huckenfell said: So nothing to do with Farang then ? Funny, I thought I said " I suspect most of these would be Cambodians, Burmese etc". If I had meant that it's nothing to do with Farang I would of probably said something along the lines of "I suspect all of these would be Cambodians, Burmese etc" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 8 hours ago, samsensam said: if the TM30 system was fit for purpose how come there are so many overstaying foreigners i the country - it should have been easy to round them up without the 2 billion baht spend on a new system... Ah, good call. That's where the 45,000 figure comes from. Those trying to do TM30's and can't! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metempsychotic Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 14 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Of the arrests cited in the OP article, at least several of them specifically say the fake passports were purchased abroad (outside Thailand). And in the other couple cases, the article doesn't clearly say where. Indeed, but when you have an axe to grind facts are irrelavent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soikhaonoiken Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 14 hours ago, thequietman said: Numbers should fall which I am sure, TAT will be concerned about as they can no longer BS about the numbers. ???? Haha, No, No, surly the numbers will increase acording to TAT, they will never admit they are down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Already well commented upon, but my first blush was us "legal" aliens are helping to pay the bin with our TM30 fines as well. No problem with Thai Immigration running out the riff raff from the country. They are the ones who make it harder for us "legal" aliens, and all the s**t we've endured in the past 2 years, and moresoe in the last 9 months, is due to their nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 81 million Baht in fines stand against 2'000 million in acquiring "THE system"; latter - in real money - still some USD 60 million. Must be a hell of an immigration monster - congratulations to the seller of this stuff. And yes, good luck to the boys at immigration. 81 million Baht among 17 million tourists = 190 million Baht in a year (taking 40 million tourists as so claimed by the Tourism Authority of Thailand). So, after 11 years you hit the break-even, guess the system will brake before ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 15 hours ago, PatOngo said: Not if TAT are involved! Good answer! Too funny. Wish I had thought of that. 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJ Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) There's so much missing from the article: How many overstayers are normally caught without the biometric? Was a lot more effort and man hours expended to catch overstayers, to try to show benefits of biometric? Would those with forged passports have been caught anywithout the biometric? Isn't there a database and they scan the passport and things don't match up, regardless of biometrics? Overstayers who don't leave Thailand are caught with biometrics? I doubt it - when would it come into play? Etc. The article is like an ad for Biometrics to try to justify the expenditure. Edited September 16, 2019 by JimmyJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zikomat Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Looks like my time is TH is finally over. Always had suspicions about those Vientiane embassy stamps being fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 16 hours ago, thequietman said: On the 'down side', criminals and other dodgy people will now be aware that Thailand is not the easy transit point that it once was and so will be using somewhere else. This will surely affect the 'tourist' numbers as TAT count all the passengers, even those in transit. Numbers should fall which I am sure, TAT will be concerned about as they can no longer BS about the numbers. ???? "TAT will be concerned about as they can no longer BS about the numbers". Yes they can and will.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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