Two underage girls saved from human trafficking karaoke bar

[sanemax]

12 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

A young adult decided she did not want to a poverty stricken rice farmer and used her initiative to better herself. No she's stuck in the patriarchal penal sytem known for its hideous conditions and abuse. Disgraceful.

The young girls didn't get arrested or prosecuted and neither are they stuck in jail  , you seem like yet another posters who is in favour of underage prostitution 

[scorecard]

8 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

BIG headline: 17 year old Thai girls have sex - and some even do it for money.

Wow, amazing Thailand!

But now after they rescued these two girls everything will be alright again. ???? 

And nothing will be done to try to stop it...

[Yinn]

7 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

 In many cases that's probably around 16 years old.

The police and me disagree.

 

7 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

 

And for the girls which are pushed into that business by their family or criminals those who are responsible should be punished. That means i.e. the mother who demands more and more money from her daughter - knowing exactly what the daughter has to do to make that money.

 

Agree punished them.

what about the customer? Punished? Or not?

[Yinn]

6 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

Hi Yinn how are you today?

 

How old are you?

 

5 hours ago, sanemax said:

Over 14, too old for you 

I think Uncle like young woman. But not the kid. I hope that.

 

But I am older than 23, so too old for Uncle.

And Uncle is older than 33, so too old for Yinn.

[Bangkokazy]

Karaoke bar is for asian, they consider girls over 20 for old,
after the career in karoke bars there is white man's pussy.

[whaleboneman]

Hey Uncle. You should be happy she didn't call you Grandpa.

[neeray]

"the third floor, which was serving as a brothel"

 

But, but, but ... I read that there is NO prostitution in Thailand.

[Inn Between]

Removing two 17-year-old girls from a bar that uses them for sex is admirable, assuming they wanted out of their situations, but if these NGOs really want to make some effect, they need to go into the remote Thai villages where there are girls for hire who are definitely younger than 17. Even in places that aren't so remote like Ban Phe, I was shocked to see the ages of the girls that were sitting outside the bar beside the pool hall where I would go with a Thai friend occasionally to shoot a couple of games.

 

The problem with making any effect in the Thai villages is that they are too insulated from outside meddling, and neither NGO's nor gov't agencies can do what they want with any degree of safety. Those places govern themselves with their own methods, and the police leave them be. The NGO's and agents have no protection  so they won't go near the places where the more serious indiscretions occur on a regular basis. 

 

 

Edited October 4, 2019 by Inn Between

[ericthai]

3 hours ago, Yinn said:

The police and me disagree.

 

Agree punished them.

what about the customer? Punished? Or not?

yes, punish if he/she obviously knows that the girl/boy is under age. 

 

I state "obviously" as I have seen some cases where a girl/boy that looks like they are in their 20's but really in their teens. Also seen the opposite looks like they are in their teens and they are in their 20's.  

[Bangkokazy]

Driving through Thailand you see red and green light. there are <deleted> clubs for Thai and whites have no departure there.

[Bangkokazy]

In Thai eyes. <<<< everything over 24 is old.

[Prairieboy]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

rescued two 17-year-old girls working in the sex trade.

I imagine the two are now upset because they are being denied employment!

 

[ChipButty]

6 hours ago, neeray said:

"the third floor, which was serving as a brothel"

 

But, but, but ... I read that there is NO prostitution in Thailand.

That was only in Pattaya

[OneMoreFarang]

7 hours ago, Yinn said:

what about the customer? Punished? Or not?

Ask the girl if the customer raped her - and I am aware and agree that it is possible to rape a prostitute.

Some customers are nice to the girls. It's easy money for them.

 

Other customers think they can do whatever they want, not only with teenagers. They should be punished. And I am sure sometime they are punished in Thailand - but not by the authorities.

 

And then there are a few guys who fall in love with the girl and stay together with her. But you know that story already.

[DILLIGAD]

I think Uncle like young woman. But not the kid. I hope that.
 
But I am older than 23, so too old for Uncle.
And Uncle is older than 33, so too old for Yinn.

I hope your not teaching English!


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[hotchilli]

18 hours ago, legend49 said:

What will they do with the University girls earning sex money to pay the uni fees?

Turn the usual blind eye.

[Mac98]

21 hours ago, anterian said:

Why do so many countries conform to American standards of morality. 16 is a much more realistic age, particularly as girls are maturing at earlier ages now than in the past. 

 ''A study by Dr. Marcia Herman-Giddens found that in 1860, the average age of the onset of puberty in girls was 16.6 years. In 1920, it was 14.6; in 1950, 13.1; 1980, 12.5; and in 2010, it had dropped to 10.5. Similar sets of figures have been reported for boys, albeit with a delay of around a year.''

The idea behind setting the age of consent at 18 was so the girls wouldn't get pregnant and drop out of high school. Of course it doesn't work and girls under 18 can have all the sex they want just as long as her partner for the evening isn't more than three years older than her. Which is silly because it's much more likely the young studs won't use a condom and there goes your 'pregnancy' argument.

    As for psychological counseling at 17, they don't offer it to girls 18. Should they?

[Mac98]

20 hours ago, Yinn said:

 

You think 18 to old for this law. You not agree the law.

 

How old you think someone can be to be sex worker?  16? 14? 12? 

It seems strange that the girls in most countries are treated like innocent lambs until they turn 18, at which time they are thrown to the wolves. There should be something more  gradual allowed. Possibly allowed to work as a karaoke hostess or coyote dancer who doesn't 'go' with customers at age 17; or appear topless in a legit film or magazine at 16 (as a fair number of current movie celebrities have - and classic movies such as "Hawaii") but not porn. I remember National Geographic could be counted on for topless pictures of island teens in the '50s and '60s without the girls needing psychological counseling. In other words, make room for common sense, not just draw a line in the sand.

[HLover]

2 minutes ago, Mac98 said:

coyote dancer who doesn't 'go' with customers at age 17

Does that include the motorcycle taxi 'friends'?

[Mac98]

8 minutes ago, HLover said:

Does that include the motorcycle taxi 'friends'?

She can 'do' whoever she wants, the same as any teen, as long as they are in her age range and not for money. Although I fail to see how a girl rolling out of the haystack after doing the soccer team for fun makes her so superior to one who went home with 1,000b from some guy to help feed the family.

[NanLaew]

22 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems normally nobody cares about American standards in Thailand. ...

I beg to differ. When it comes to quality, American Standard is right up there with Cotto and still commands a premium price.

[WhatupThailand]

19 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

They were working as service staff. The headline should read: 'teenage girls kidnapped from work by armed thugs'...The were NOT rescued and they were NOT Trafficked but they were and still are victims of police interference, who probably had not been paid offf...hence the raid. A young adult decided she did not want to a poverty stricken rice farmer and used her initiative to better herself. No she's stuck in the patriarchal penal sytem known for its hideous conditions and abuse. Disgraceful.

Ahh, Just in time for the Fearless Leader's visit to the UN,

where most of the Control agenda's, and NGO marching orders come from.

 

And now the Girls are Trafficked to a Mental Institution, where they will be brainwashed, about how Messed Up and Bad they are.

After which everything goes on their Record for Life.

 

I am sure the Girls are soooo Happy to have been rescued from their decisions of how

best to make their livelihood, after being unable to find some other job, that pays their needs.

Maybe not the best choice, but could be their Only choice.

And for many a way to learn another Language, and meet a possible Marriage Partner.

 

But Hey, Everyone needs to be Controlled, cause Freedom is Dangerous, and there are

too many to Tell you how to live your life, without ever knowing anything about you.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 5, 2019 by WhatupThailand
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[khunPer]

17 hours ago, Bangkokazy said:

In Thai eyes. <<<< everything over 24 is old.

Wow, and my girlfriend has always told me it's 25, saying »26, old lady« – but the difference might be that I'm farang, same-same but different...????

[brianthainess]

On 10/4/2019 at 3:47 PM, Vacuum said:

On 10/4/2019 at 12:49 PM, webfact said:

if they took the girls out for sex, paying the bar a buy-out fee of Bt700.

In other words, pimps.

Just like all the bar owners, falang included, whatever age the girls are.

[WhatupThailand]

Gee, So many wanting to save us from Everything, including ourselves......

SO Shut up and get back in your box, It's for your own good, and save the Children Too!!!

Same old BS control line "Save You, Save Them, Save the Planet" and "Save the Children"

What if I don't want to "SAVE" anybody ?

Just let All live their life FREE, make their choices, and learn from their mistakes.

It's called LIFE, with no guarantees, no need for all this "Big Daddy" Protection.

Now they got the no smoking at your Home law, why?

To Protect the Kids of Course.

The never ending Story of Tyranny.