Popular Post webfact Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 Drunk Chinese tourist shoots girlfriend dead after playing with Thai VP's gun Picture: Daily News The vice president of the Thai-Chinese trade and industry association told how he had taken a Chinese couple home after a party. While he had stopped to urinate by the side of the road he heard a shot ring out. He returned to the vehicle to find that a very drunk Chinese man called Seng W. had shot his girlfriend San A., 23, in the chest with a 9 mm gun. The bullet exited through her back. He had taken the liberty of playing with the weapon which was kept in a compartment on the second row of seats in the vehicle, said Wichai Manekitikun, 44, the owner of the gun. Wichai said that he had been with the couple at the Ping sharkfin soup restaurant in a hotel in the Pathumwan area of central Bangkok. He offered to take the couple home to a condo in the Rama 3 area. When he reached Soi 43 he got out to urinate in some bushes. Rushing back to the vehicle he saw a large amount of blood and rushed the injured woman to Nakhon Thon hospital. She died there later. When Tha Kham police arrived they found Seng in floods of tears outside the emergency room. An interpreter was called from the Chinese embassy. Seng was very drunk, reported Daily News. Bang Pong Pang police are investigating as the shooting happened in their jurisdiction. The weapon was reportedly legally owned and licenced. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-10-09 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 3 3
Popular Post webfact Posted October 9, 2019 Author Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 Before commenting on this topic, please consider the subject matter and be respectful that someone has died. Any off topic and/or insensitive posts will be removed without warning and could result in those who made the posts being banned from the site. /Admin 11 3 7
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 You need to know how to handle a weapon. They are not toys and should not be touched if not yours.. Play with a gun and it will backfire on you. Sorry to hear this time it did exactly that. 3
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, holy cow cm said: You need to know how to handle a weapon. They are not toys and should not be touched if not yours.. Play with a gun and it will backfire on you. Sorry to hear this time it did exactly that. Not just that but the Thai Police are trained to keep their weapons loaded (or at least I'm told that), which lends to catastrophic consequences should an untrained person pick up the gun (it should still have a safety). Back story on the above: A number of years back holidaying with Thai friends, 4 of us were drinking late back in a friends room my friend had a 'gun' in his small satchel (bag). I asked to take a look but he said no, because it was loaded. A discussion then ensued about why he would keep his gun loaded, even when he was off duty, I explained that I thought it would be safer to keep the chamber empty, and the cartridge / clip removed. All of my friends were quite adamant that that was riskier for them because when they need a gun they don't have time to load it etc, I was told this is the way they were trained (they all went to Military College and now hold the rank of Pol. Colonel). Thus: I suspect this tragedy could have easily been avoided had the most basic of gun safety standards we would follow in the west have been followed here. Edited October 9, 2019 by richard_smith237 7
Popular Post seajae Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 the gun owner should have had the weapon secured, while the drunk acted foolishly the owner is really the one at fault, the poor girl didnt deserve to die this way at the hands of an ignorant drunk, if the weapon had been secured properly in the first place it would not have happened. 15 10
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Not just that but the Thai Police are trained to keep their weapons loaded (or at least I'm told that), which lends to catastrophic consequences should an untrained person pick up the gun (it should still have a safety). Back story on the above: A number of years back holidaying with Thai friends, 4 of us were drinking late back in a friends room my friend had a 'gun' in his small satchel (bag). I asked to take a look but he said no, because it was loaded. A discussion then ensued about why he would keep his gun loaded, even when he was off duty, I explained that I thought it would be safer to keep the chamber empty, and the cartridge / clip removed. All of my friends were quite adamant that that was riskier for them because when they need a gun they don't have time to load it etc, I was told this is the way they were trained (they all went to Military College and now hold the rank of Pol. Colonel). Thus: I suspect this tragedy could have easily been avoided had the most basic of gun safety standards we would follow in the west have been followed here. Good story. Yeah who knows. Years ago an off duty cop in a bar who was friends with let me hold and look at his loaded 9mm. But I have gun training and knew better, but honestly it was not a wise decision of him to pull it out and let me see. He actually wanted to sell me one. That is eons ago. For the gun having a loaded magazine in it, no problem as long as the chamber is empty and the safety is on, and best to be in a holster. But who knows, and who knows what the drunk China man did. Judging by Chinese being foregoing pushy characters, he probably initiated all the action and wrong moves of the weapon and the innocent girl paid the price with her life.. 3
Popular Post jak2002003 Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 Is that legal to keep a loaded gun in your car? 4 1
Popular Post from the home of CC Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 take the drug alcohol out of the equation and this does not occur.. 6 2 3
Popular Post ezzra Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 So many things are so wrong with this story, Shark Fin soup, urinating in public, a gun in a car unsecured, people playing with guns, sad loss of an innocent life who was a victim of unfortunate and careless circumstances at the wrong time and with the wrong people... 31 6
Popular Post steven100 Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 51 minutes ago, webfact said: While he had stopped to urinate by the side of the road he heard a shot ring out. He returned to the vehicle to find that a very drunk Chinese man called Seng W. had shot his girlfriend San A., 23 hmmmmm ….. I have to question the events that took place. 6 2
worgeordie Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Alcohol....has a lot to answer for RIP the young lady. regards Worgeordie 2 2
Popular Post drbeach Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, ezzra said: So many things are so wrong with this story, Shark Fin soup, urinating in public, a gun in a car unsecured, people playing with guns, sad loss of an innocent life who was a victim of unfortunate and careless circumstances at the wrong time and with the wrong people... Exactly. plenty of petrol/gas stations in Bangkok to stop off for a pee. Only a very uncultured "ban nok" person finds the need to urinate in some bushes in Bangkok, especially at 3am, when there is hardly any traffic and you can drive down sukhumvit road at 120km/h. 2 2
Popular Post Vacuum Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 39 minutes ago, seajae said: the gun owner should have had the weapon secured Is it legal (even if had a license for it) to have the gun loaded in public? Then again, he was vice president of the Thai-Chinese trade and industry association. Perhaps other rules for the 'influential' people 6
Popular Post overherebc Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 Nothing scares me more than someone who has never had any training of any kind on firearms and has a firearm. 4
Popular Post Chivas Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 I've had to rewrite this post 5 times before posting bearing in mind the warning and whats left is below "What sort of individual decides he's going to urinate in bushes doubtless drink driving himself and leaves a loaded gun in a glove box"......further words superfluous 6 1
cornishcarlos Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chivas said: doubtless drink driving himself and leaves a loaded gun in a glove bo Apparently it wasn't even in the glove box but in the back seat arm rest !! Really ??? Why would you keep your "protection" in the back seat of the car you drive... 2
Popular Post steven100 Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chivas said: I've had to rewrite this post 5 times before posting bearing in mind the warning and whats left is below "What sort of individual decides he's going to urinate in bushes doubtless drink driving himself and leaves a loaded gun in a glove box"......further words superfluous as soon as I read the first couple of lines, I was skeptical about the driver going to the toilet and it all happened while he was away from the car …. and the loaded firearm in the glove compartment … ?? 3
RichardColeman Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Seems these Chinese are not quite what the Thais thought they were, that's two Chinese that have killed g/f 's in just a few days. 2
anterian Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 If the gun was kept in a compartment on the second row of seats in the vehicle, it was clearly not intended for immediate emergency use, so there was no reason for it to have been kept loaded. 2
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Why does the vp of a Chinese-Thai trade association need to carry around a loaded, unsecured gun in his car? Is his occupation such a dangerous one? Is Thailand such a dangerous place? 2
overherebc Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, anterian said: If the gun was kept in a compartment on the second row of seats in the vehicle, it was clearly not intended for immediate emergency use, so there was no reason for it to have been kept loaded. Driver given the night off so instead of sitting in the back as usual he was driving. Probably forgot completely about it being in the rear seat area. 2
legend49 Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 2 hours ago, worgeordie said: Alcohol....has a lot to answer for RIP the young lady. regards Worgeordie and they want to extend bar hours until 4 am? 1
graeme64 Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 2 hours ago, ezzra said: So many things are so wrong with this story, Shark Fin soup, urinating in public, a gun in a car unsecured, people playing with guns, sad loss of an innocent life who was a victim of unfortunate and careless circumstances at the wrong time and with the wrong people... yes SOOOO many thing s wrong and quite likely almost nothing will happen to any one. 1
Popular Post Vacuum Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Why does the vp of a Chinese-Thai trade association need to carry around a loaded, unsecured gun in his car? Is his occupation such a dangerous one? Is Thailand such a dangerous place? It's safe. All of them have weapons, be it guns or large knifes. But no problems if you don't flip the bird, honk your horn or cut in front of them. 1 2
Popular Post Tayaout Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 I never urinate without bringing my loaded gun with me. That's when a man is the most vulnerable. 6
4675636b596f75 Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Thus: I suspect this tragedy could have easily been avoided had the most basic of gun safety standards we would follow in the west have been followed here. We don't keep our guns unloaded. Don't put your finger on the trigger. That's the 2nd safety. Don't give your gun to drunken idiots, that's the first. 1
Tropposurfer Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Alcohol and firearms a terrible recipe for tragedy ... a person out fir the evening has died, very sad ????
BigFun Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Why does the vp of a Chinese-Thai trade association need to carry around a loaded, unsecured gun in his car? Is his occupation such a dangerous one? Is Thailand such a dangerous place? Are you really that naive? Jealousy (here) is rampant, add (presumably) large sums of money...I'd have one if I were him too. Edited October 9, 2019 by BigFun Improved 1
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 9, 2019 When Tha Kham police arrived they found Seng in floods of tears outside the emergency room. I am so, so sorry. I really did not mean to kill my girlfriend. I do not even know why I was pointing the gun at her chest. I did NOT pull the trigger. Some dark force was responsible. What I really regret is having to spend decades in prison here. Maybe I can find a friendly judge? Maybe my government can exert some pressure? They seem to be very good at that. Glad this happened here, and not in Japan, where they have real law and order. I still have a good chance! I am not a bad man. 1 1 2
lust Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Not just that but the Thai Police are trained to keep their weapons loaded (or at least I'm told that), which lends to catastrophic consequences should an untrained person pick up the gun (it should still have a safety). Back story on the above: A number of years back holidaying with Thai friends, 4 of us were drinking late back in a friends room my friend had a 'gun' in his small satchel (bag). I asked to take a look but he said no, because it was loaded. A discussion then ensued about why he would keep his gun loaded, even when he was off duty, I explained that I thought it would be safer to keep the chamber empty, and the cartridge / clip removed. All of my friends were quite adamant that that was riskier for them because when they need a gun they don't have time to load it etc, I was told this is the way they were trained (they all went to Military College and now hold the rank of Pol. Colonel). Thus: I suspect this tragedy could have easily been avoided had the most basic of gun safety standards we would follow in the west have been followed here. All police keep a round in the chamber.
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