They refused letting me out of Thailand :)

[Druidian]

I wanted to do a border run in Mae Sai and get an exempt on my way back but they refused letting me out of the country and told me I had to cancel my non-b first at the Immigration Office in the city. At the office they refused doing it. So I got to the border again and they told me I had to go back to BKK and cancel my visa there. I can't do that because I quit my job 45 days ago but the school didn't inform the Immigration so they could impose the fine on me. The visa expires on Monday. Any suggestions so that I can get an exempt.  Thanks ????

[overherebc]

Fly out and fly back ??

[elviajero]

35 minutes ago, Druidian said:

Any suggestions so that I can get an exempt.  Thanks

If you want to leave by land you need to get the extension cancelled by the office that issued it.

 

The only other option is to fly out/in. But if you’re planning to work again you really need to get the extension cancelled.

[DrJack54]

You not want another job?

Fly out easy peasy. Can reenter no problem.

[sunnyboy2018]

Next time get a multiple exit reentry visa.

[glegolo]

9 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

Next time get a multiple exit reentry visa.

THAT is NOT a VISA, it is being called Re Entry Permit and comes in single and multiple, 1000 baht and 3.800 baht... It keeps you VISA you have OR Extension of stay alive while leaving Thailand.....

 

glegolo

[BestB]

Not sure if same problem or not, but many years ago i was on ED visa, genuinely studying and was leaving to get a Non B.

 

At Nongkai, i was denied, saying if i want to leave school need to provide letter stating i finish study.

 

It sounds insane if one wants to leave the country but not allowed.

 

Anyhow, off to Nongkai Immigration who could not do anything, had to contact the school, ask them to fax letter confirming i finished my study the day before.

 

After that i was allowed out, and charged 500 baht for overstay.

 

So in case of OP if things have not changed, might need to get his work place to send a letter saying employment is finished and request to cancel the visa, but then most likely be charged with overstay

[DaRoadrunner]

First they wont let us in, now they wont let us out!.... The Thai need to make up their freaking minds what they want. Enough of their idiotic rules.

 

I suspect it is illegal to refuse someone permission to leave if they have committed no crime?

[Druidian]

9 hours ago, elviajero said:

If you want to leave by land you need to get the extension cancelled by the office that issued it.

 

The only other option is to fly out/in. But if you’re planning to work again you really need to get the extension cancelled.

It's not an extension, it's an initial 3 months visa which expires on Monday. I didn't get a work permit and I changed the school. I suppose I need to overstay one day since then my visa will be no longer valid and I won't need any cancellation. I don't want to pay 20.000B for a 45-48 days overstay and have the nasty stamp in my passport.

[Druidian]

9 hours ago, overherebc said:

Fly out and fly back ??

They might stop me at the airport for the same reason.

[overherebc]

13 minutes ago, Druidian said:

They might stop me at the airport for the same reason.

At the airport they wont look at you twice. Visa will expire as soon as they stamp you out and you come back on VE 30 day stamp.

One day overstay in my opinion not a good idea at the moment.

[Druidian]

I'm wondering about going to Chiang Khong on Tuesday, paying a one day overstay and getting an exempt on the way back to Chian Rai. But the risk is... what if they refused to issue that exempt for me... I would stuck in Laos and I would have to fly in back.

 

A fellow teacher had to get a new non b in Vientiane since he didn't get his work permit on time (Kurusapa hadn't sent his permit on time). He overstayed one day and crossed the border at Nong Khai lat week. They didn't demand of him any letter from the school.

[Druidian]

10 minutes ago, overherebc said:

At the airport they wont look at you twice. Visa will expire as soon as they stamp you out and you come back on VE 30 day stamp.

One day overstay in my opinion not a good idea at the moment.

Do I need to apply for a Laotian visa to do a round trip for getting an exempt? I would stick to "the airport no man's zone" only.

[RichardColeman]

8 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

I suspect it is illegal to refuse someone permission to leave if they have committed no crime?

I suspect poster may fall foul of the farang stepping on the cracks in the pavement law

[overherebc]

5 minutes ago, Druidian said:

Do I need to apply for a Laotian visa to do a round trip for getting an exempt? I would stick to "the airport no man's zone" only.

You cant do that. you need in and out stamps from Laos.

Laos visa on arrival 35 dollars?

Without those stamps Thailand wont allow you back and without getting the visa on arrival Laos wont let you leave anyway.

[Druidian]

4 minutes ago, overherebc said:

You cant do that. you need in and out stamps from Laos.

Laos visa on arrival 35 dollars?

Without those stamps Thailand wont allow you back and without getting the visa on arrival Laos wont let you leave anyway.

I'm still a bit anxious about them not willing to let my fly out without my non b cancellation...

I'm quite new to Thailand and I see things here are way more complicated than back in Vietnam.

[steven100]

I've heard it's difficult to enter Thailand …..  

but leaving  !!   

[overherebc]

14 minutes ago, Druidian said:

I'm still a bit anxious about them not willing to let my fly out without my non b cancellation...

I'm quite new to Thailand and I see things here are way more complicated than back in Vietnam.

They wont say anything at the airport because it's a visa and not an extension of stay issued by Thai Immigration.

If it was an extension of stay they only thing they might say at the airport is that it will be cancelled because of no re-entry permit but this doesn't apply in your case anyway.

Cancelling a visa by Imm' is really very unusual, if it happens it's because you have been arrested/convicted of a crime and are being deported. Flying out with a still valid single entry entry 'visa' means you have had your 'single entry', even if it was only a week or two in country. If the 'visa' still had say a month or so to go until its enter/use by date then a re-entry permit at the airport ( 1900 baht ) would keep it valid.

[overherebc]

3 minutes ago, steven100 said:

I've heard it's difficult to enter Thailand …..  

but leaving  !!   

90 day overstay and they will assist all they can. ????????????

[ubonjoe]

38 minutes ago, Druidian said:

I'm wondering about going to Chiang Khong on Tuesday, paying a one day overstay and getting an exempt on the way back to Chian Rai. But the risk is... what if they refused to issue that exempt for me... I would stuck in Laos and I would have to fly in back.

Try crossing to Laos tomorrow or Monday. They may let you leave the country since you can travel further into Laos than the border area after getting the Lao visa on arrival.

In fact I am sure they will let you leave and re-enter the country.

[theslime]

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

You cant do that. you need in and out stamps from Laos.

Laos visa on arrival 35 dollars?

Without those stamps Thailand wont allow you back and without getting the visa on arrival Laos wont let you leave anyway.

anything is possible in the land of smiles, Thai border control didnt want to do paper work for my baby daughter and let me take her out for my visa stamp. on the way back in minutes later thai control said nope until a quick phone call and all was well again in the land of smiles.  No stamps from cambodia as well.

[overherebc]

26 minutes ago, theslime said:

anything is possible in the land of smiles, Thai border control didnt want to do paper work for my baby daughter and let me take her out for my visa stamp. on the way back in minutes later thai control said nope until a quick phone call and all was well again in the land of smiles.  No stamps from cambodia as well.

What passport does your daughter hold?

[problemfarang]

Hi,

 

Yes you cannot leave thailand without cancelling your WP and visa.

First you need a letter from your school which is telling your last day of work. Then go to your immigration office ( school has nothing to do with immigration as you mentioned like its their fault) it is your responsibility to cancel your visa. WP i think thats something school must do or you can do by yourself if you want to be sure. That last day of working is your last day of visa!

 

After canceled your visa at immigration, you have 24 hours to leave the country or 1900 baht for another 7 days (im not sure about how many days) 

 

If you fly without cancelling your visa and WP, and if you come back and want to work again, it will be a problem for you. so do it now. You mentioned its been 45 days.. 2 options: talk with your work and ask their help to change the last day working date on the letter. second take the letter, and pay overstay (which will be big). Its better if you talk with the school.

 

I truly not suggest this but one of my friends had a problem with the last working date too. He asked her girlfriend to write a letter for the school name, and she signed it with a beautiful signature (not like thai name only signature). It worked because at the border they dont look any other info, just that letter. thats all. Again not suggested! Also you need a paper like that thai government papers ( eagle thing on the paper)

[Druidian]

56 minutes ago, problemfarang said:

Hi,

 

Yes you cannot leave thailand without cancelling your WP and visa.

First you need a letter from your school which is telling your last day of work. Then go to your immigration office ( school has nothing to do with immigration as you mentioned like its their fault) it is your responsibility to cancel your visa. WP i think thats something school must do or you can do by yourself if you want to be sure. That last day of working is your last day of visa!

 

After canceled your visa at immigration, you have 24 hours to leave the country or 1900 baht for another 7 days (im not sure about how many days) 

 

If you fly without cancelling your visa and WP, and if you come back and want to work again, it will be a problem for you. so do it now. You mentioned its been 45 days.. 2 options: talk with your work and ask their help to change the last day working date on the letter. second take the letter, and pay overstay (which will be big). Its better if you talk with the school.

 

I truly not suggest this but one of my friends had a problem with the last working date too. He asked her girlfriend to write a letter for the school name, and she signed it with a beautiful signature (not like thai name only signature). It worked because at the border they dont look any other info, just that letter. thats all. Again not suggested! Also you need a paper like that thai government papers ( eagle thing on the paper)

The school didn't apply for a work permit for me and I have a 3 months non-b (expires on Monday), not its extension. I'm sorry I didn't mention that before but I didn't know its importance. Thank you for your time, effort and help. If you could refer to this post I would be most obliged. Thank you in advance! ????

[Druidian]

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Try crossing to Laos tomorrow or Monday. They may let you leave the country since you can travel further into Laos than the border area after getting the Lao visa on arrival.

In fact I am sure they will let you leave and re-enter the country.

I had no luck in Mae Sai, the officer... she wasn't friendly to the white faces and I sensed I could be in trouble and here you go. I'm going to Nong Khai on the morrow and I'm going to try to cross the border on Monday (which is the last day of my non b 4 months visa validity). Thanks a lot for your support. ????

[Druidian]

I'm going to Vientiane to apply for a new non b so once I've got it, hopefully, Thailand will welcome me with open arms once again. ???? But first, it's time to say goodbye and she just don't want to let me go... how very cute of her. ????

[ubonjoe]

14 minutes ago, Druidian said:

The school didn't apply for a work permit for me and I have a 3 months non-b (expires on Monday), not its extension. I'm sorry I didn't mention that before but I didn't know its importance.

You have nothing to worry about since you only have a 90 day entry from a non-b visa. You have nothing that needs to be canceled before leaving the country.

14 minutes ago, Druidian said:

I had no luck in Mae Sai, the officer... she wasn't friendly to the white faces and I sensed I could be in trouble and here you go.

She was wrong. She should of let you leave and re-enter the country unless you have already done 2 visa exempt entries this year at a land border crossings.

[Nong Khai Man]

14 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

First they wont let us in, now they wont let us out!.... The Thai need to make up their freaking minds what they want. Enough of their idiotic rules.

 

I suspect it is illegal to refuse someone permission to leave if they have committed no crime?

I suspect it is illegal to refuse someone permission to leave if they have committed no crime?

 

It's Their Country, They can Do EXACTLY What they want too !!

[Druidian]

9 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You have nothing to worry about since you only have a 90 day entry from a non-b visa. You have nothing that needs to be canceled before leaving the country.

She was wrong. She should of let you leave and re-enter the country unless you have already done 2 visa exempt entries this year at a land border crossings.

She called the superior once she had learnt I quit my job 44 days before and he demanded of me to pay the fine. I refused and he said in that case I should go back to the Immigration the visa was issued (it was done within Thailand by converting my tourist visa) and ask for its cancellation or just pay the overstay and cross the border.

 

Thank you very much, I was a bit anxious but now I can sleep well, just go to Nong Khai on the morrow and keep smiling at the people. You've helped improved the Land of Smiles and made my day. Thanks a million! ????

[problemfarang]

Hi again,

As Ubon said nothing to worry about. You didnt extend your visa to work there. No have WP.

 

If i were you, i would just go to Vientiene. There is no reason they can stop you to leave. I think the first one did a mistake.