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10 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Here's my donation to fixing climate change . . . . 100 trillion dollars.  Should cover it but if you need more I can spare a little extra.

 

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It would be different if the climate alarmists would simply propose ways of cleaning up the mess we're creating or suggest beneficial changes we might make.  But as soon as they start with the taxation schemes I see it as a con.

 

Of all of the money which will flow into governments treasury coffers to combat climate change every last penny will be spent towards that effort.  Everyone who believes that react with a heart.  And if you don't react with a sad face.

I know what you mean. Look at all the government money in the USA wasted on reducing pollution. What a failure!

This graph shows economic growth has occurred while emissions of air pollutants have decreased.

https://www.epa.gov/transportation-air-pollution-and-climate-change/accomplishments-and-success-air-pollution-transportation

You'll not that at the same time that GDP increased by 153%,  and the us population increased by 41%, aggregate emissions declined by 65%

 

And according to the IMF, the world is paying about 5 trillion dollars per year subsidizing fossil fuels. Including 649 billion dollars per year in the USA.

 

This paper updates estimates of fossil fuel subsidies, defined as fuel consumption times the gap between existing and efficient prices (i.e., prices warranted by supply costs, environmental costs, and revenue considerations), for 191 countries. Globally, subsidies remained large at $4.7 trillion (6.3 percent of global GDP) in 2015 and are projected at $5.2 trillion (6.5 percent of GDP) in 2017. The largest subsidizers in 2015 were China ($1.4 trillion), United States ($649 billion), Russia ($551 billion), European Union ($289 billion), and India ($209 billion). About three quarters of global subsidies are due to domestic factors—energy pricing reform thus remains largely in countries’ own national interest—while coal and petroleum together account for 85 percent of global subsidies. 

https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WP/Issues/2019/05/02/Global-Fossil-Fuel-Subsidies-Remain-Large-An-Update-Based-on-Country-Level-Estimates-46509

 

 

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future generations?

 

just like the the USA "Climate Believers" who "believe" this is only about some ice melting.... in 2100 something.  vote for The Dems!  they will sign some more international agreements and (i) do nothing real and (ii) make sure aviation is exempt from everything except some "CORSIA offsets"... beginning in 2027... on SOME air travel.  and maybe also talk about their "lost dreams".  blah blah blah blah.  folks that have not read anything... that was peer reviewed... since 2012... and certainly not anything in 2019, beginning with Rosenfeld et. al. in Science, February 2019.    

WHAT future generations? of green mold? 

 

vote Trump 2020.  and finish that improved border wall.... for bottom of the totem pole Climate refugees from Mexico and upper South Amerikee.

 

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4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Strange that child mortality in the western world is at an all time low then.

Would have thought more kids would be dying if the headline were in any way true, and not just fake news.

 

Where are there any food shortages?

Where is there an increase of kids dying from infectious disease?

 

Child mortality rate and food shortages will increase, but not because of increased CO2. It will happen because too many people are being born.

Increased CO2 will actually help grow more crops, as all life depends on CO2 and there isn't enough of it in the atmosphere.

 

The rate of death from infectious diseases will escalate as more bugs become resistant to antibiotics, caused by human misuse of antibiotics.

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10 minutes ago, WeekendRaider said:

future generations?

 

must be the USA "Climate Believers" who "believe" this is only about some ice melting.... in 2100 something.  vote for The Dems!  they will sign some more international agreements and (i) do nothing real and (ii) make sure aviation is exempt from everything except some "CORSIA offsets"... beginning in 2027... on SOME air travel.  and maybe also talk about their "lost dreams".  blah blah blah blah.  folks that have not read anything... that was peer reviewed... since 2012... and certainly not anything in 2019, beginning with Rosenfeld et. al. in Science, February 2019.    

WHAT future generations? of green mold? 

Here's a quote from Rosenfeld:

"For Rosenfeld, this discrepancy might point to an ever deeper and more troubling reality. "If the aerosols indeed cause a greater cooling effect than previously estimated, then the warming effect of the greenhouse gases has also been larger than we thought, enabling greenhouse gas emissions to overcome the cooling effect of ahttps://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190122104611.htmerosols and points to a greater amount of global warming than we previously thought," he shared."

 

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2 hours ago, VincentRJ said:

My impression is that population growth slows down as countries develop economically. The two countries with the largest populations are China and India.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/indias-population-growth-will-come-to-an-end
 

"Here we see that the number of children under the age of five (under-5s) peaked in 2007; since then the number has been falling. The number of Indians under 15 years old peaked slightly later (in 2011) and is now also declining."

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/17/world/asia/china-population-crisis.html
 

"On Monday, the National Bureau of Statistics announced that the total number of births in 2018 fell to 15.2 million, a drop of nearly 12 percent nationally. Some cities and provinces have reported declines in local birth rates of as much as 35 percent."

The problem is that ?billions have yet to reach breeding age. Once they do, expect another surge in population, and so it goes, ever increasing.

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7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Child mortality rate and food shortages will increase, but not because of increased CO2. It will happen because too many people are being born.

Increased CO2 will actually help grow more crops, as all life depends on CO2 and there isn't enough of it in the atmosphere.

 

The rate of death from infectious diseases will escalate as more bugs become resistant to antibiotics, caused by human misuse of antibiotics.

Less Nutritious Grains May Be In Our Future

In the future, Earth's atmosphere is likely to include a whole lot more carbon dioxide. And many have been puzzling over what that may mean for the future of food crops. Now, scientists are reporting that some of the world's most important crops contain fewer crucial nutrients when they grow in such an environment.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/05/08/310473928/less-nutritious-grains-may-be-in-our-future

 

 

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1 minute ago, bristolboy said:

Less Nutritious Grains May Be In Our Future

In the future, Earth's atmosphere is likely to include a whole lot more carbon dioxide. And many have been puzzling over what that may mean for the future of food crops. Now, scientists are reporting that some of the world's most important crops contain fewer crucial nutrients when they grow in such an environment.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/05/08/310473928/less-nutritious-grains-may-be-in-our-future

 

 

And many have been puzzling over what that may mean for the future of food crops.

 

As usual, MAY! Given the overwhelming population explosion, we MAY be eating processed seaweed and insects in the not too distant future.

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Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

And many have been puzzling over what that may mean for the future of food crops.

 

As usual, MAY! Given the overwhelming population explosion, we MAY be eating processed seaweed and insects in the not too distant future.

Had you read the article, you would know that the "may" isn't about the effects of CO2 on those crops.

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Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

And many have been puzzling over what that may mean for the future of food crops.

 

As usual, MAY! Given the overwhelming population explosion, we MAY be eating processed seaweed and insects in the not too distant future.

MAY?  Not too distant future?  The future is here.

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8 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

"Children are particularly vulnerable to the health risks of a changing climate."

 

"If we want to protect our children, we need to make sure the air they breathe isn't toxic," . . . 

 

It's always the children.  A great tactic designed to pull at the heartstrings thereby gaining support and suppress any arguments to the contrary for if you do you will be accused of unforgivable callousness towards the poor, vulnerable, innocent children.

 

LOL

Anyone living here, whether they have children or not, must be aware that in many towns and cities the air is already unfit to breathe. Action needs to be taken now to protect the present population and future generations. 

 

The hazards of climate change are less prescient than little Greta and her green army of alarmists would have us believe and can be tackled with a phased response, using emerging "green" technologies   

 

This, however, is no excuse for delaying sensible action to clean Thailand's polluted air

 and reduce the environmental impact of plastic - which, thankfully, the current administration is committed to do.

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3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The problem is that ?billions have yet to reach breeding age. Once they do, expect another surge in population, and so it goes, ever increasing.

If you read the articles I linked, you'd have understood this is not the prediction. The concern now is that the current breeding population will not produce enough offspring to support their parents with a good lifestyle as they age, retire and live longer due to advances in medication.

 

Japan is an example of the result of advanced economic growth which seem to reduce the feeling of need for large families that poor people used to have because child mortality was high and there was no social system to support them in their old age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aging_of_Japan

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6 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

climate change has always happened ,always will ,the problem is too many people 7 billion now 12 billion by 2050.

I agree, has been happening in cycles for millions of years. The BIG problem is pollution of the environment, which has to be reduced or we are all doomed.

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