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1 hour ago, Saint Nick said:

I just came here, to see ignorant adults, attack a child!

I was not disappointed! 

????

Can't see much that could be called "attacking".

 

Even if she is verbally attacked, she has put herself in this position; is everyone expected to not challenge her, simply because she's 16? Or, do you think she can say what she likes, & 'get away with it'?.

 

As for your "ignorant" comment...best I don't express my reply.

 

In summary: Your post is really not a clever as you think it is.

 

 

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1 hour ago, faraday said:

Can't see much that could be called "attacking".

 

Even if she is verbally attacked, she has put herself in this position; is everyone expected to not challenge her, simply because she's 16? Or, do you think she can say what she likes, & 'get away with it'?.

 

As for your "ignorant" comment...best I don't express my reply.

 

In summary: Your post is really not a clever as you think it is.

 

 

I rest my case!

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On 12/7/2019 at 5:18 AM, oldhippy said:

Your indecent quotes have gone, difficult to cite - not to mention indecent to cite.

Too late to apologize.

So you make a claim with no evidence. Nice. 

     As I thought...you’ve got nothing. 

Because I never made any indecent statements. Not that kind of person. 

    I also don’t go accusing others of things they didn’t do. 

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2 minutes ago, Catoni said:

Yeah, sometimes facts are hard to accept, huh???

The only factual elements of your post, " I think people find her irritating.  Nobody likes to be preached at least of all by a spoilt brat who seems oblivious to the aspirations of poor people throughout the world who can only envy her wealth. She seems tone deaf and blind to her own privilege and entitled lifestyle. She needs psychiatric help and like all such unfortunates she does not deserve hate but nor do the people who disagree with her. " is 'I think'. The rest bis just your opinion.

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5 minutes ago, stevenl said:
10 minutes ago, Catoni said:

Yeah, sometimes facts are hard to accept, huh???

The only factual elements of your post, " I think people find her irritating.  Nobody likes to be preached at least of all by a spoilt brat who seems oblivious to the aspirations of poor people throughout the world who can only envy her wealth. She seems tone deaf and blind to her own privilege and entitled lifestyle. She needs psychiatric help and like all such unfortunates she does not deserve hate but nor do the people who disagree with her. " is 'I think'. The rest bis just your opinion.

Sorry to correct you, that was not @Catoni's post to be fair.

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14 hours ago, stevenl said:

Sure mate. You and some others om here know better than the experts,

So what do those “experts” feeding at the taxpayer trough and protecting their positions say? That climate never changed until the early 1980’s? 

    Fact is, climate has been changing on this planet ever since the planet got an atmosphere and water. 

  Sometimes changes fast, sometimes slow, sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. Sometimes warmer, sometimes colder. Sometimes in a Glacial Period, Sometimes in an Interglacial Period. (Like now) 

    Sometimes in a much warmer time between Ice Ages. Sometime IN a Ice Age. ( Yes...like we are right now.)

     Yes, I know enough about History, Geology, Paleoclimatology, and Politics and Economics to know when people are being lied to for a politico-economic extremist agenda. 

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10 minutes ago, stevenl said:

The only factual elements of your post, " I think people find her irritating.  Nobody likes to be preached at least of all by a spoilt brat who seems oblivious to the aspirations of poor people throughout the world who can only envy her wealth. She seems tone deaf and blind to her own privilege and entitled lifestyle. She needs psychiatric help and like all such unfortunates she does not deserve hate but nor do the people who disagree with her. " is 'I think'. The rest bis just your opinion.

Uhmmm..... you’ve got your posts confused. I never posted that post you are referring to. But I do agree with the person who posted it. 

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21 minutes ago, Catoni said:

So what do those “experts” feeding at the taxpayer trough and protecting their positions say? That climate never changed until the early 1980’s? 

    Fact is, climate has been changing on this planet ever since the planet got an atmosphere and water. 

  Sometimes changes fast, sometimes slow, sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. Sometimes warmer, sometimes colder. Sometimes in a Glacial Period, Sometimes in an Interglacial Period. (Like now) 

    Sometimes in a much warmer time between Ice Ages. Sometime IN a Ice Age. ( Yes...like we are right now.)

     Yes, I know enough about History, Geology, Paleoclimatology, and Politics and Economics to know when people are being lied to for a politico-economic extremist agenda. 

 

18 minutes ago, Catoni said:

Uhmmm..... you’ve got your posts confused. I never posted that post you are referring to. But I do agree with the person who posted it. 

I completely agree with your analysis on the post above, yet, again, i completely disagree with the character assassination of the young girl.

I guess you have been 16 once in your life, and possibly you were not fully conscious of your actions.

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2 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

 

I completely agree with your analysis on the post above, yet, again, i completely disagree with the character assassination of the young girl.

I guess you have been 16 once in your life, and possibly you were not fully conscious of your actions.

Has anyone here made any claims about Greta that are lies? 

   Anything about her that is untrue?

  If so, copy and paste it here. 

  Cite and quote, or admit you have nothing. 

     Please hurry back. I’ll wait. 

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2 minutes ago, Catoni said:

I was raised to respect others who have either earned respect, or given no reason to have respect withdrawn. 

    Greta is to be pitied. She is being used and mentally abused by her parents and her German Marxist handler and others. 

     Greta, by her own and her parent’s own admissions...has serious mental issues. Asperger’s Syndrome, which is on the Autistic scale. Depression, and Selective Mutism. 

    One of the problems that can and does develop out of that is Paranoia. 

   Instead of doing their best to try to reassure her and calm her and keep her in school and home, they are encouraging her mental ill health and fright and placing her in danger of further mental illness and paranoia. 

    THAT is brainwashing and mental abuse. 

    I have absolutely no respect for her parents and propaganda handlers. None whatsoever. 

    And I read recently that her mother and father have been under investigation in Sweden for possible mental abuse of Greta. 

 

You do have some good points, but still sounding a bit intolerant to me.

Actually i am also worried for the future of the little girl, as soon as this media parade is over, and i have not much respect for her parents, but i always try to understand people's points of view before casting judgements.

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3 minutes ago, Catoni said:

Has anyone here made any claims about Greta that are lies? 

   Anything about her that is untrue?

  If so, copy and paste it here. 

  Cite and quote, or admit you have nothing. 

     Please hurry back. I’ll wait. 

I'm not disputing much what is being said, but how is it being said.

Apparently compassion is a difficult concept for you.

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14 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

You do have some good points, but still sounding a bit intolerant to me.

Actually i am also worried for the future of the little girl, as soon as this media parade is over, and i have not much respect for her parents, but i always try to understand people's points of view before casting judgements.

I have no tolerance for people involved in brainwashing, mental abuse of others, lies, and people with politico-economic agendas hiding behind climate change. 

    Intolerance is not always a bad thing. There are times that intolerance is really a very good thing.

      I will NOT tolerate a person trying to lift my wallet out of my pocket or lying to my face. 

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18 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

I'm not disputing much what is being said, but how is it being said.

Apparently compassion is a difficult concept for you.

I have far more compassion for Greta than her parents and handlers do. 

    They are mentally abusing her. Apparently that goes right over your head. 

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1 minute ago, Catoni said:

I have far more compassion for Greta than her parents and handlers do. 

    They are mentally abusing her. Apparently that goes right over your head. 

Nope, i doesn't go over my head, perhaps you should read my posts again, slowly.

There are far worse things on this poor planet that Greta and their parents, i don't understand all this hate.

I wish the people with some knowledge and wisdom could stick to discussing the environmental issues and the feasible solutions instead of attacking a little girl and her parents.

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26 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Nope, i doesn't go over my head, perhaps you should read my posts again, slowly.

There are far worse things on this poor planet that Greta and their parents, i don't understand all this hate.

I wish the people with some knowledge and wisdom could stick to discussing the environmental issues and the feasible solutions instead of attacking a little girl and her parents.

   “...environmental issues.....”.  No problem. We need to clean up all our rivers and lakes. Recycling is a good idea. Scrubbers on smokestacks to remove particulate matter and sulfur dioxide ...sure. All good ideas. 

   Those are things we can continue to work on. 

    Not sure what else you think might be wrong with the environment. 

    Our climate is perfectly fine. A bit warmer since coming out of the Little Ice Age circa 1850. That’s nice. The L.I.A. was generally not a nice time for folks in Europe and China and North America. 

    We are also very lucky to be living in an Interglacial Period. People should be counting their blessings. Because we are due to enter another Glacial Period sometime in the next 2,000 - 3,000 years. And Glacial Periods last for around 85,000 - 128,000 years or so.

    Imagine Toronto, Berlin and Chicago and New York City under a mile or two of ice.  

How about taking care of the threats of dangerous extremist politico-economic ideas like fascism, socialism, Nazism, and Communism ?And dangerous religious ideologies like extremist Islam??

    Okay, I’m on board with that. We have to do more to defend ourselves against such threats. 

 

   I’m going to repeat this once, for your benefit. No need to thank me. 

   

She (Greta Thunberg), is NOT a “little girl” or child. 

   She will be 17 in a couple of weeks.

 And in my country, at age 16, she could (upon becoming 16) get her Driver’s Licence, Firearms Acquisition and Possession Certificate, and join the Army. 

    Hardly a child or “little girl”. 

Maybe her parents have her on puberty suppressing drugs.

       They have been under investigation in Sweden under suspicion of abuse...so perhaps we will find out. 

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On 12/8/2019 at 8:31 AM, teacherofwoe said:

The Heartland Institute are at the COP25 this year (again), but you won't see any of their presentations on the mainstream because they use science, facts and data rather than hysteria and fear. You should check out their work on Youtube:

 

 

 

 

 

 

A very prestigious institute. Definitely trustworthy and in no way influenced by its sponsors:

Heartland Institute Reluctantly Stands by Denial of Cigarette Smoking Risks

Before the Heartland Institute became famous for its leading role in climate change denial, the group spent many years working to defend the tobacco industry. Just as the group is now known for its over the top attacks on climate scientists, Heartland once played a large role in criticizing public health experts and others calling attention to the dangers of cigarette smoking.

https://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/05/12464/heartland-institute-reluctantly-stands-denial-cigarette-smoking-risks

 

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3 minutes ago, Catoni said:

“...feasible solutions...” to what? 

The threat of dangerous extremist politico-economic ideas like fascism, socialism, Nazism, and Communism ?And dangerous religious ideologies like extremist Islam??

    Okay, I’m on board with that. We have to do more to defend ourselves against such threats. 

 

   I’m going to repeat this once, for your benefit. No need to thank me. 

   

She (Greta Thunberg), is NOT a “little girl” or child. 

   She will be 17 in a couple of weeks.

 And in my country, at age 16, she could (upon becoming 16) already have her Driver’s Licence, Firearms Acquisition and Possession Certificate, and join the Army. 

    Hardly a child or “little girl”. 

Maybe her parents have her on puberty suppressing drugs.

       They have been under investigation in Sweden under suspicion of abuse...so perhaps we will find out. 

Well, as you seem to be a bit too negative today, i'm out of this conversation. Have a good day.

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1 hour ago, Catoni said:

So you make a claim with no evidence. Nice. 

     As I thought...you’ve got nothing. 

Because I never made any indecent statements. Not that kind of person. 

    I also don’t go accusing others of things they didn’t do. 

 

55 minutes ago, Catoni said:

I was raised to respect others who have either earned respect, or given no reason to have respect withdrawn. 

    Greta is to be pitied. She is being used and mentally abused by her parents and her German Marxist handler and others. 

     Greta, by her own and her parent’s own admissions...has serious mental issues. Asperger’s Syndrome, which is on the Autistic scale. Depression, and Selective Mutism. 

    One of the problems that can and does develop out of that is Paranoia. 

   Instead of doing their best to try to reassure her and calm her and keep her in school and home, they are encouraging her mental ill health and fright and placing her in danger of further mental illness and paranoia. 

    THAT is brainwashing and mental abuse. 

    I have absolutely no respect for her parents and propaganda handlers. None whatsoever. 

    And I read recently that her mother and father have been under investigation in Sweden for possible mental abuse of Greta. 

 

Really? So where is the proof that she is being abused? Where is the proof that she is not doing this of her own accord? Where is the proof that she is being damaged? And maybe you did read that Greta's mother and father are under investigation in Sweden for possible mental abuse of Greta? Got a link for that? Did you bother to check into the truth of that claim?

 

For someone who insists that evidence be provided by others, you seem remarkably lax in applying that standard to yourself. And by the way, no reputable psychologist would call Asperger's a "serious mental issue". Asperger's people are different, not damaged. In fact, when it comes to issues of fact, it might be useful to recall that at one time many Asperger's children were grouped under the "little professor" syndrome. Because they were so mentally precocious.

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10 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

 

Really? So where is the proof that she is being abused? Where is the proof that she is not doing this of her own accord? Where is the proof that she is being damaged? And maybe you did read that Greta's mother and father are under investigation in Sweden for possible mental abuse of Greta? Got a link for that? Did you bother to check into the truth of that claim?

 

For someone who insists that evidence be provided by others, you seem remarkably lax in applying that standard to yourself. And by the way, no reputable psychologist would call Asperger's a "serious mental issue". Asperger's people are different, not damaged. In fact, when it comes to issues of fact, it might be useful to recall that at one time many Asperger's children were grouped under the "little professor" syndrome. Because they were so mentally precocious.

Cite? Sure...here you go:

 

Angry Swedish Citizens Report Greta Thunberg’s Parent to Child Services for Child Abuse

 

    (But I say she is not a child. So I don’t agree with everything in this report)

 

While she appears to be missing in action as of late, angry climate child Greta Thunberg of United Nations ranting fame isn’t off the hook when it comes to her questionable climate shenanigans, and neither are her parents.

According to reports, Greta’s parents are the subject of a new inquiry into their fitness as parents, as it would seem that they’ve been abusing their daughter for political and financial gain.

A report was recently filed in the Kungsholmen district of Stockholm claiming that Greta’s parents are exploiting her in order to push the climate agenda, which is causing young Greta to suffer serious mental anguish and emotional distress.

 

In tandem with a public relations consultant, Greta’s mother specifically is said to have exploited her daughter to create mass hysteria and panic about the world ending in a few years due to climate change and global warming. And now Greta is spreading this same mental illness to other children via her mother’s damaging influence, which could mean that Greta’s mom is unfit to keep Greta in her custody.

     (They have forgotten about Greta’s German Marxist radical climate alarmist handler working for George Soros funded “One” Foundation ....Luisa-Marie Neubauer.)

        “When large parts of the adult world and established media participate in the mass psychosis around Greta Thunberg – who obviously doesn’t feel so good – it’s like having to pinch one’s arm,” stated Swedish Party Chairman for Social conservatives and lifestyle liberals about this bizarre situation.

“Is this true?” the same individual, who is also a lawyer, further asked in a tweet. “What are you doing? This is not healthy.”

https://dcdirtylaundry.com/angry-swedish-citizens-report-greta-thunbergs-parents-to-child-services-for-child-abuse/

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3 minutes ago, Catoni said:

Cite? Sure...here you go:

 

Angry Swedish Citizens Report Greta Thunberg’s Parent to Child Services for Child Abuse

 

    (But I say she is not a child. So I don’t agree with everything in this report)

 

While she appears to be missing in action as of late, angry climate child Greta Thunberg of United Nations ranting fame isn’t off the hook when it comes to her questionable climate shenanigans, and neither are her parents.

According to reports, Greta’s parents are the subject of a new inquiry into their fitness as parents, as it would seem that they’ve been abusing their daughter for political and financial gain.

A report was recently filed in the Kungsholmen district of Stockholm claiming that Greta’s parents are exploiting her in order to push the climate agenda, which is causing young Greta to suffer serious mental anguish and emotional distress.

 

In tandem with a public relations consultant, Greta’s mother specifically is said to have exploited her daughter to create mass hysteria and panic about the world ending in a few years due to climate change and global warming. And now Greta is spreading this same mental illness to other children via her mother’s damaging influence, which could mean that Greta’s mom is unfit to keep Greta in her custody.

     (They have forgotten about Greta’s German Marxist radical climate alarmist handler working for George Soros funded “One” Foundation ....Luisa-Marie Neubauer.)

        “When large parts of the adult world and established media participate in the mass psychosis around Greta Thunberg – who obviously doesn’t feel so good – it’s like having to pinch one’s arm,” stated Swedish Party Chairman for Social conservatives and lifestyle liberals about this bizarre situation.

“Is this true?” the same individual, who is also a lawyer, further asked in a tweet. “What are you doing? This is not healthy.”

https://dcdirtylaundry.com/angry-swedish-citizens-report-greta-thunbergs-parents-to-child-services-for-child-abuse/

Anybody can report anyone for abuse. The question is are the 

 

5 minutes ago, Catoni said:

Cite? Sure...here you go:

 

Angry Swedish Citizens Report Greta Thunberg’s Parent to Child Services for Child Abuse

 

    (But I say she is not a child. So I don’t agree with everything in this report)

 

While she appears to be missing in action as of late, angry climate child Greta Thunberg of United Nations ranting fame isn’t off the hook when it comes to her questionable climate shenanigans, and neither are her parents.

According to reports, Greta’s parents are the subject of a new inquiry into their fitness as parents, as it would seem that they’ve been abusing their daughter for political and financial gain.

A report was recently filed in the Kungsholmen district of Stockholm claiming that Greta’s parents are exploiting her in order to push the climate agenda, which is causing young Greta to suffer serious mental anguish and emotional distress.

 

In tandem with a public relations consultant, Greta’s mother specifically is said to have exploited her daughter to create mass hysteria and panic about the world ending in a few years due to climate change and global warming. And now Greta is spreading this same mental illness to other children via her mother’s damaging influence, which could mean that Greta’s mom is unfit to keep Greta in her custody.

     (They have forgotten about Greta’s German Marxist radical climate alarmist handler working for George Soros funded “One” Foundation ....Luisa-Marie Neubauer.)

        “When large parts of the adult world and established media participate in the mass psychosis around Greta Thunberg – who obviously doesn’t feel so good – it’s like having to pinch one’s arm,” stated Swedish Party Chairman for Social conservatives and lifestyle liberals about this bizarre situation.

“Is this true?” the same individual, who is also a lawyer, further asked in a tweet. “What are you doing? This is not healthy.”

https://dcdirtylaundry.com/angry-swedish-citizens-report-greta-thunbergs-parents-to-child-services-for-child-abuse/

That's a very impressive source. They keep on writing according to reports but rarely link to anything. And the sites they do link to provide no hard evidence. Of anything. Mainly these are reports about angry private citizens who filed complaints with the Swedish government. No evidence at all that the government takes these complaints seriously. You got some evidence that the Swedish government is actually conducting investigations?

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7 minutes ago, Catoni said:

Cite? Sure...here you go:

 

Angry Swedish Citizens Report Greta Thunberg’s Parent to Child Services for Child Abuse

 

    (But I say she is not a child. So I don’t agree with everything in this report)

 

While she appears to be missing in action as of late, angry climate child Greta Thunberg of United Nations ranting fame isn’t off the hook when it comes to her questionable climate shenanigans, and neither are her parents.

According to reports, Greta’s parents are the subject of a new inquiry into their fitness as parents, as it would seem that they’ve been abusing their daughter for political and financial gain.

A report was recently filed in the Kungsholmen district of Stockholm claiming that Greta’s parents are exploiting her in order to push the climate agenda, which is causing young Greta to suffer serious mental anguish and emotional distress.

 

In tandem with a public relations consultant, Greta’s mother specifically is said to have exploited her daughter to create mass hysteria and panic about the world ending in a few years due to climate change and global warming. And now Greta is spreading this same mental illness to other children via her mother’s damaging influence, which could mean that Greta’s mom is unfit to keep Greta in her custody.

     (They have forgotten about Greta’s German Marxist radical climate alarmist handler working for George Soros funded “One” Foundation ....Luisa-Marie Neubauer.)

        “When large parts of the adult world and established media participate in the mass psychosis around Greta Thunberg – who obviously doesn’t feel so good – it’s like having to pinch one’s arm,” stated Swedish Party Chairman for Social conservatives and lifestyle liberals about this bizarre situation.

“Is this true?” the same individual, who is also a lawyer, further asked in a tweet. “What are you doing? This is not healthy.”

https://dcdirtylaundry.com/angry-swedish-citizens-report-greta-thunbergs-parents-to-child-services-for-child-abuse/

And let me guess, that report has been filed by a manmade climate change denier.

 

Your mentioning of George Soros in this context is telling.

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27 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

 

Really? So where is the proof that she is being abused? Where is the proof that she is not doing this of her own accord? Where is the proof that she is being damaged? And maybe you did read that Greta's mother and father are under investigation in Sweden for possible mental abuse of Greta? Got a link for that? Did you bother to check into the truth of that claim?

 

For someone who insists that evidence be provided by others, you seem remarkably lax in applying that standard to yourself. And by the way, no reputable psychologist would call Asperger's a "serious mental issue". Asperger's people are different, not damaged. In fact, when it comes to issues of fact, it might be useful to recall that at one time many Asperger's children were grouped under the "little professor" syndrome. Because they were so mentally precocious.

You’re being less than honest. Asperger’s Syndrome, which is on the Autistic scale, is mental illness...it’s not just “different”. 

    In her case it also comes with depression and selective mutism...to the point she would stop eating. It can lead to paranoia.

   And everyone has been able to see she is showing signs of paranoia.? They’ve had serious problems with her. 

     Yeah...”...just different..” all right. “No mental illness to see here folks.”

      You’re trying to claim it is just another kind of “normal”. 

   No, it’s not another kind of normal. 

Would you call a full grown adult with the mental capacity of only a five year old normal? Just different? 

    No mental illness? 

    Bury your head in the sand if you wish. Ignore reality and make up your own “reality” if you wish.

     Fascists, socialists, Nazis and communists are all great at making up their own fantasy “reality”. 

   Have fun. 

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7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

And let me guess, that report has been filed by a manmade climate change denier.

 

Your mentioning of George Soros in this context is telling.

     What’s wrong with mentioning George Soros? 

    You like and admire the guy who supports all kinds of things trying to bring down western free enterprise capitalism? 

    If you do...then THAT’S really telling. 

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58 minutes ago, Catoni said:

    We are also very lucky to be living in an Interglacial Period. People should be counting their blessings. Because we are due to enter another Glacial Period sometime in the next 2,000 - 3,000 years. And Glacial Periods last for around 85,000 - 128,000 years or so.

    Imagine Toronto, Berlin and Chicago and New York City under a mile or two of ice.  

 

im not feeling lucky living in any type of ice age, inter or not,

if it was in my power i would heat this planet 10 degree in a heartbeat

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4 minutes ago, Catoni said:

You’re being less than honest. Asperger’s Syndrome, which is on the Autistic scale, is mental illness...it’s not just “different”. 

    In her case it also comes with depression and selective mutism...to the point she would stop eating. It can lead to paranoia.

   And everyone has been able to see she is showing signs of paranoia.? They’ve had serious problems with her. 

     Yeah...”...just different..” all right. “No mental illness to see here folks.”

      You’re trying to claim it is just another kind of “normal”. 

   No, it’s not another kind of normal. 

Would you call a full grown adult with the mental capacity of only a five year old normal? Just different? 

    No mental illness? 

    Bury your head in the sand if you wish. Ignore reality and make up your own “reality” if you wish.

     Fascists, socialists, Nazis and communists are all great at making up their own fantasy “reality”. 

   Have fun. 

Asperger's not in DSM-5 mental health manual

Tuesday 4 December 2012

‘Asperger's syndrome dropped from psychiatrists' handbook’, is the headline in The Guardian. The news is based on a press release from the American Psychiatric Association (APA) announcing the approval by their Board of Trustees of a revised fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). The DSM was first published in 1952 and is often referred to as the 'psychiatrists' bible' in the US.

https://www.nhs.uk/news/mental-health/aspergers-not-in-dsm-5-mental-health-manual/

As for the depression. There are plenty of people who function well thanks to treatment for their depression. Given the level of activity she maintains, if she is being treated for depression, she is doing remarkably well. Of course, just because she once suffered from depression doesn't mean she does any longer. Many people with Asperger's syndrome are depressed not without reason but because they are regarded with condescension by people who know no better. Such as yourself.

And this remark of yours is ridiculous in regards to someone with Aspergers's syndrome:

"Would you call a full grown adult with the mental capacity of only a five year old normal? Just different?" 

 

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