On 12/17/2019 at 11:53 PM, RoadWarrior371 said:

Agree.  I think a lot of the whining is from the lowest budget tourists that are now priced out of LOS, and are pissing and moaning to save face prior to their exit. 

How can you agree, and then say:

 

"a lot of the whining is from the lowest budget tourists that are now priced out of LOS."

 

I thought Pattaya / Thailand catered for every budget.  ????

Could help to stop hassling tourists trying to enter the country.  

56 minutes ago, yourauntbob said:

Could help to stop hassling tourists trying to enter the country.  

And to a degree those already in the country, with police stops when driving, and being extorted for putting a bottle on the ground. 

5 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

And to a degree those already in the country, with police stops when driving, and being extorted for putting a bottle on the ground. 

extorted for littering ?

 

bwahahahahahahahahaha

 

The grub deserved to cop a fine.

1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

extorted for littering ?

 

bwahahahahahahahahaha

 

The grub deserved to cop a fine.

And what about all the garbage/trash on just about every corner and in gutters next to taxis ??. Disregard/overlooking is just another form of Thai apologism. And if they want to increase tourism how about some feng-shui on the corners and sidewalks. 

On December 16, 2019 at 10:04 AM, RedPill said:

Ron Jeremy ... yeah funny ... why does anyone even need to justify where they live?

 

Foremost, the majority of the guys on here came for the girls to Thailand, whether they want to openly agree to it or not.

 

I wonder how the expat community and this forum would look like if Thailand would be like Pakistan, but only with beaches & palm trees.

 

No need to cover this up  ????

 

Everybody came here because they got a younger girl living with them. 

 

In fact, all of the guys around me, through all age classes, they all got a younger Thai girl living with them.

 

Availability of woman ... if that would not be here in Thailand, I highly doubt most would be still here for so long and go through all the hurdles and moved on.

 

Exactly as you just stated, one reason you're here, hookers. 

Ans as most are here. Thanks for agreeing with me.

nothing wrong with that, if that's what you're after. 

Most here try to say it's the beaches, temples malls, etc etc etc.

illtip my hat to u, you're honest, can't fault you for that.????????????????

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

And what about all the garbage/trash on just about every corner and in gutters next to taxis ??. Disregard/overlooking is just another form of Thai apologism. And if they want to increase tourism how about some feng-shui on the corners and sidewalks. 

Hopefully 1 by 1 all those that discarb garbage and litter will be fined as well, disgusting grubs they are.

1 hour ago, Ron jeremy said:

Exactly as you just stated, one reason you're here, hookers. 

Ans as most are here. Thanks for agreeing with me.

nothing wrong with that, if that's what you're after. 

Most here try to say it's the beaches, temples malls, etc etc etc.

illtip my hat to u, you're honest, can't fault you for that.????????????????

Unlike in the West there is gradient between hookers and available young women here. A lot of wild cards in the deck. If all there was here was the Western equivalent (hardcore) there would be fewer expats. 

On 12/18/2019 at 10:44 PM, moonseeker said:

Even many of the once very popular hotels are far from fully booked. Some of the discounts are unbeatable and prices mostly much lower than prior years. Some very good deals for Xmas week. Check other search engines and even more vacancies appear. Don't fall for the "last room" bs. Merry Christmas. MS>

 

https://www.agoda.com/pages/agoda/default/DestinationSearchResult.aspx?city=8584&site_id=1826369&tag=40be5cad-ca23-aa46-8284-356e6010687f&gclid=Cj0KCQiAuefvBRDXARIsAFEOQ9E6pdwsGgJaFvwR_ifrNj4tV-HhYUvzLK3kyHxvwIVwpMjlFMtC7SoaAgJPEALw_wcB&checkIn=2019-12-22&checkOut=2019-12-28&los=6&rooms=1&adults=1&children=0&cid=1826369

 

 

 

 

Agreed. Lots of rooms. My favourite condo place behind Big C Extra on Klang has a lot of choice and prices running 700 to 1100 baht. I used the dates Dec. 22 to 27.

 

What I have noticed is that, throughout the year, it's become easier to get a room and especially more affordable the last year and a half compared with 2-3 years ago.

7 hours ago, Kaoboi Bebobp said:

 

Agreed. Lots of rooms. My favourite condo place behind Big C Extra on Klang has a lot of choice and prices running 700 to 1100 baht. I used the dates Dec. 22 to 27.

 

What I have noticed is that, throughout the year, it's become easier to get a room and especially more affordable the last year and a half compared with 2-3 years ago.

Hotels definitely have downward pressure on their per night prices.  Nice hotels are going cheap on the internet. 

 

Much the same as bars charging 55 or 65 baht a beer, when in the past, they were charging 80 baht a beer.   

 

It's a race to the bottom. 

As Mark Twain said there are three kinds of liars.  There are liars, damned liars, and then statisticians.  One post from the government shows a record number of tourists, the next that tourism and bar and restaurant traffic down.  From purely a visual estimate, Pattaya is busier than it has been in months but still not what it was a couple of years ago.  With the THB high and the hassle given to European and American tourists it is no wonder that some of the usual haunts are down. 

3 minutes ago, Thomas J said:

One post from the government shows a record number of tourists, the next that tourism and bar and restaurant traffic down. 

This is what a lot of members struggle to understand.

 

In the past, when western tourists made up the vast majority of tourists to Pattaya, when tourists numbers were up, so was revenue from them.

 

Now, Chinese and Indians make up the majority of tourists to Pattaya, and their numbers are up, but they don't frequent the traditional bars, restaurants and nightclubs that enjoyed western tourist custom in the past, so despite their numbers being up, the money from them is down, way down.

 

I have no doubt many 7/11 and Family Marts are seeing a huge increase in sales, particularly of certain products, but that's not great for hospitality establishments. 

On 12/17/2019 at 2:21 PM, paulikens said:

same old story now coming every year and its nonsense,yes its not as busy as it use to be but trying get a hotel there and you'll find it hard to do cuz everywhere is full,and you wont get a hotel for love nor money over the xmas and new year week.

 

really?

 

1 hour ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

really?

 

It says, "66% of our properties are fully booked for your dates." 

 

That is, their properties, and probably only for their allocation.  That does not mean 66% of all properties in Pattaya are fully booked.

 

Once again, look at the big discount.  They must be desperate.

7 minutes ago, Leaver said:

It says, "66% of our properties are fully booked for your dates." 

 

That is, their properties, and probably only for their allocation.  That does not mean 66% of all properties in Pattaya are fully booked.

 

Once again, look at the big discount.  They must be desperate.

 

totally agree but it was the numbnut who stated "you wont get a hotel for love nor money over the xmas and new year week" i was replying too!

 

bookings are plentiful and at steep discounts too.

 

 

2 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

totally agree but it was the numbnut who stated "you wont get a hotel for love nor money over the xmas and new year week" i was replying too!

 

bookings are plentiful and at steep discounts too.

 

 

Yes, plenty of accommodation available. 

 

There is no high season here anymore.  The calendar year is evened out by a steady stream of cheap package holiday Chinese and Indian tourists. 

 

Numbers will increase for the peak season, which is the Christmas and New Year period for 2 to 3 weeks, but other than that, it's just monthly loss after monthly loss, for many establishments here. 

16 hours ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

really?

 

Watch out for the obligatory Gala Dinners that sometimes get added on at the last step!

On 12/21/2019 at 7:34 PM, GeorgeCross said:

 

totally agree but it was the numbnut who stated "you wont get a hotel for love nor money over the xmas and new year week" i was replying too!

 

bookings are plentiful and at steep discounts too.

 

 

It will be quite a shock to many at just how quiet it is here now.  Perhaps some may upgrade their hotel, due to the big discounts on offer. 

If you book that hotel above direct it is 3000 baht per night. Claiming that it is usually 13k is farcical.

On 12/20/2019 at 10:13 AM, Leaver said:

Hotels definitely have downward pressure on their per night prices.  Nice hotels are going cheap on the internet. 

 

Much the same as bars charging 55 or 65 baht a beer, when in the past, they were charging 80 baht a beer.   

 

It's a race to the bottom. 

And who's fault is that?

On 12/21/2019 at 8:41 AM, Leaver said:

Yes, plenty of accommodation available. 

 

There is no high season here anymore.  The calendar year is evened out by a steady stream of cheap package holiday Chinese and Indian tourists. 

 

Numbers will increase for the peak season, which is the Christmas and New Year period for 2 to 3 weeks, but other than that, it's just monthly loss after monthly loss, for many establishments here. 

Coming out in Jan and can only say good,will help offset the lousy exchange rate

On 12/21/2019 at 3:41 PM, Leaver said:

// but other than that, it's just monthly loss after monthly loss, for many establishments here. 

Probably true for establishments (mainly bars) targeting farangs retirees, or even cheap charlies farangs.

It was a big risk targeting such a small weak customers base.

Many bars, restaurants and other that do well with a wider base though.

what has happened to the 4 am bar closing time??

11 hours ago, kingdong said:

And who's fault is that?

Well, it's their country.  ????

11 hours ago, kingdong said:

Coming out in Jan and can only say good,will help offset the lousy exchange rate

You will be surprised how quiet it is, but yes, cheap accommodation readily available.

43 minutes ago, tinca tinca said:

what has happened to the 4 am bar closing time??

They have already moved to another idea

at least one new idea evedyday

the project is to keep the mind busy for the public with 

trivial and secondary things. and then the public have

no time to ask the real questions about the important issues and concerns

Meanwhile the ones in charge can keep filling their pockets

9 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

Many bars, restaurants and other that do well with a wider base though.

So, what do you suggest they do?  Sell, Kingfisher and Tsingtao beer, and add sweet and sour and curry to their menu?   Isn't that the "wider base" now?

On 12/16/2019 at 10:18 AM, DannyCarlton said:

Never had "grief" at an airport in Thailand.

 

Pattaya beach has been widened and is very clean (can't say the same about the water)

 

I don't do plumpers. Plenty of slim ones to choose from.

 

Thai food doesn't have to be salty , greasy or fried. Wide range of Thai dishes outside these parameters.

 

A pad thai in the UK would probably cost you 10 times the Thai price.

 

Trying to justify the mistake you made relocating to Vietnam?

Pattaya Beach is not clean

 

Most Thai food is salty greasy and fried.

 

Terrible food.

 

Why would I want to buy a phad thai in the UK when there is so much better on offer ?

 

I never ever eat Thai food outside of Thailand.

 

Try some Italian/French food in their respective countries  and report back.

 

Maybe you are stuck here and cannot do so.

1 hour ago, Leaver said:

Well, it's their country.  ????

What's happening in thailand happened in Spain 30-40 years ago,heaving tourism,good value cheap holidays,and what happened?they got lairy,decided they didn,t want the lager louts,but wanted the platinum American express card holder,and looked what happened to them,Thailand's going the same way.

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

What's happening in thailand happened in Spain 30-40 years ago,heaving tourism,good value cheap holidays,and what happened?they got lairy,decided they didn,t want the lager louts,but wanted the platinum American express card holder,and looked what happened to them,Thailand's going the same way.

Little difference between the 2, Thai have the no longer cheap female company(no longer cheap due to exchange rates, once it corrects, it will become cheap again ???? )

 

And no matter how hard authorities try, even though they are not really trying, this industry is not going anywhere any time soon. If anything its getting bigger