Red flag raised on Chinese products in Thai e-commerce

[bluesofa]

3 hours ago, Andycoops said:

All the Chinese made products I have bought didn't last 5 minutes because the quality is <deleted>.

I always look now to see if anything I buy has made in china on it.

If so I pass unless it is something no one else is offering and it is absolutely essential. 

Sadly I have to agree.

I also try to avoid Chinese products for the same reason, through bitter experience.

I've noticed on Lazada there's an option to search for 'local' rather than including China. Most of the time it shows up people in Bangkok selling on Chinese products.

 

[emptypockets]

3 hours ago, tabarin said:

Worst is, when you know to have the honest best wholesale prices, and Lazada / mothership factories Fk everyone over by decreasing the prices with 10-15% and no prior notice.

Think about that on a million baht in stock.

Perfect version of capitalism. Can't compete? Go broke. The western world has hailed this mantra for decades. Chins has stepped up and playing the same game.

Compete or get bust.

By the way I guess most posters only have experience with Chinese toasters and the like, but trust me they produce some of best quality highly engineered products in the world. Think gas and steam turbines worth mega bucks.

And in a very, very internal competitive market. It would blow some people's minds to actually visit some of the factories there. I suspect many posters  still have the mindset of when they were three years old in the post WW2 era and seeing you trains made out of tin with Heinz baked beans logos on the inside  from Japan and relate this to modern China.

Edited December 26, 2019 by emptypockets

[xylophone]

5 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

By the way I guess most posters only have experience with Chinese toasters

Have had a Chinese toaster for 12 years and never let me down!!!!!!!

 

Many folk don't realise that so much is made in China these days and even brands with which they are familiar, but don't know it.

[emptypockets]

Most of the PC's, laptops, phones and other devices they are using right now!

[bluesofa]

35 minutes ago, xylophone said:

44 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

By the way I guess most posters only have experience with Chinese toasters

Have had a Chinese toaster for 12 years and never let me down!!!!!!!

 

Many folk don't realise that so much is made in China these days and even brands with which they are familiar, but don't know it.

How do you get them into the toaster - surely their feet catch on the slot?

[Gweiloman]

Posters complaining about Chinese made products are undoubtedly cheap charlies, buying cheapest of the cheap, crappy products and totally ignorant of how far China has progressed in terms of quality control. 
I’ve bought lots if stuff on Lazada, made in China. Xiaomi robot vacuum, air purifier, smart home products (LED lights etc). All top quality, well made, all at cheaper than western prices. 

[ICELANDMAN]

2 hours ago, Redline said:

It’s too late-Thailand can’t compete with China on almost anything.  They will suck it dry, and Thailand will be more dependent 

More dependent and more poor also because Thais industry not have same hight level quantity production, many Thais company destiny is bankrupts or close and where the government Thai go take money for run country ? Same westerns country..... tax land and house....

[Yadon Toploy]

7 hours ago, wwest5829 said:

The Chinese have been well taught about this from the western countries to be sure. Stationing troops? Na, a good deal of dominance can be controlled by economic imperialism ... thus the belt and road.

Except they are stationing troops. 

 

Massive naval base in Cambodia for starters, Djibouti, Burma and also Afghanistan.

 

You will be able to add Pakistan and a dozen African nations to that list, as well as all the artificial islands they are building to project their power.

[Isaan sailor]

China’s plan to control Thailand now in full view.  So what will the Cha-Cha regime do about it?  Absolutely nothing.

[chama]

Getting involved with China at any level is a recipe for disaster. They are the masters of flooding a market with poor quality merchandise but the real problem is the products are often dangerous. 

[fruitman]

29 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

China’s plan to control Thailand now in full view.  So what will the Cha-Cha regime do about it?  Absolutely nothing.

They welcomed Jack Ma as a god when he came to Thailand to open ebusiness here. And within hours the Thai sold thousands of durians by lazada to chinese customers...they couldn't be happier...but lets face it, what else can the Thai sell to the chinese? They can;t grow durians in china.....

 

 

[Traubert]

12 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

With the Thai economy reeling from the strong Baht—western products get the cold shoulder, while ChiCom products get a warm embrace.  And when you consider China’s Belt & Road initiatives—you begin to see how ChiComs seek total domination over SE Asia.

And not one bomb dropped or any false flag op. People like China. ???? They're honest and non-violent.

[Traubert]

3 hours ago, fruitman said:

They welcomed Jack Ma as a god when he came to Thailand to open ebusiness here. And within hours the Thai sold thousands of durians by lazada to chinese customers...they couldn't be happier...but lets face it, what else can the Thai sell to the chinese? They can;t grow durians in china.....

 

 

Au contrere. They just harvested the first saleable durian crop in Hainan.

Edited December 26, 2019 by Traubert
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[donnacha]

At a key point in world history, when smart, farsighted, economically-literate decisions needed to be made in every country, Thailand was being run by a gang of opportunistic thugs with guns.

 

[fruitman]

3 hours ago, Traubert said:

Au contrere. They just harvested the first saleable durian crop in Hainan.

And Hainan has already seen one instance of durian speculation boom and bust. Farmers already tried planting durian in the 1980s, and ended up with disappointing yields and fruit quality.

[Sonhia]

Many Chiness products are substandard in quality,  poorly constructed / manufactured and in some cases dangerous and / or bad for the enviroment, constructed in factories or sweat-shops by underpaid workers that Must endure low pay, poor Human plus Workers Rights.

 

Personally, I avoid products from China such as iPhone etc...

 

 

[mikebell]

21 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Way to go China, Thailand is just another pawn..

Thailand is just another prawn to be guzzled at All-you-can-eat buffet and trampled under foot.

[zydeco]

11 hours ago, fruitman said:

but lets face it, what else can the Thai sell to the chinese? They can;t grow durians in china.....

But the Chinese can buy the durian farms. You really think the Chinese are going to allow Thais to profit off of something the Chinese can manipulate into their own pockets? Thais will be made into serfs for their Chinese overlords.

[ChipButty]

Even the women are sub standard 

[snowgard]

On 12/26/2019 at 3:15 AM, webfact said:

For Thai traders, the chance of competition is rather small. Entrepreneurs must try to look for other products and create their own brand in order to compete with these Chinese products.

 

Sure!!! Because the Thai traders sell exactly the same chinese product with a winning of 300%. And because people here can buy it now cheaper on Lazada direct from china the Thai traders are the big loosers. 

[tabarin]

18 hours ago, chama said:

Getting involved with China at any level is a recipe for disaster. They are the masters of flooding a market with poor quality merchandise but the real problem is the products are often dangerous. 

Actually they started warning for gas coming out of boxes from China, to be very harmful. 
They advice you to open the box in open air and let it stand for 12-24 hours first now with TVs etc in Europe.

[tabarin]

2 hours ago, snowgard said:

Sure!!! Because the Thai traders sell exactly the same chinese product with a winning of 300%. And because people here can buy it now cheaper on Lazada direct from china the Thai traders are the big loosers. 

300% in your dreams maybe, for psychical shops, they need to pay the real taxes etc aside of sky high rent in malls, staff, etc. etc. 

For the online local sellers, a 100-200% margin would only happen on a non brand C quality HDMI cable, or other crappy products like that. The normal products it is almost impossible to get 50% gross margin, GROSS is not NET and neither profit.

For quality products like Xiaomi and Youpin, you are looking at 7-20% gross margin max nowadays, it used to be a fair amount in the beginning of this year though. 

From next year they are gonna increase the costs more for sellers on Lazada so it will be even worse.
Also note that local sellers often offer some service and warranty, that costs money too.

Edited December 27, 2019 by tabarin

[ICELANDMAN]

8 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Even the women are sub standard 

Please explain to me

[Traubert]

On 12/26/2019 at 2:31 PM, fruitman said:

And Amazon isn't allowed in China...

Nonsense. Check Amazon.cn.

 

Where are they trading?

 

 

 

 

[Traubert]

20 hours ago, fruitman said:

And Hainan has already seen one instance of durian speculation boom and bust. Farmers already tried planting durian in the 1980s, and ended up with disappointing yields and fruit quality.

Errrr....30 years ago mate. They have perfected the art now. Do try to live in the present. You'll be calling then ChiComs next like our resident McCarthyist.

[Traubert]

17 hours ago, Sonhia said:

Many Chiness products are substandard in quality,  poorly constructed / manufactured and in some cases dangerous and / or bad for the enviroment, constructed in factories or sweat-shops by underpaid workers that Must endure low pay, poor Human plus Workers Rights.

 

Personally, I avoid products from China such as iPhone etc...

 

 

iPhone...any phone...

 

Have you got an IBM brick from the 90's then? They're all made in China now.

[Traubert]

8 hours ago, tabarin said:

Actually they started warning for gas coming out of boxes from China, to be very harmful. 
They advice you to open the box in open air and let it stand for 12-24 hours first now with TVs etc in Europe.

Who is 'they?'

[Isaan sailor]

On 12/26/2019 at 11:53 PM, Traubert said:

And not one bomb dropped or any false flag op. People like China. ???? They're honest and non-violent.

ChiComs like China.   ChiCom cheerleaders like China.  Nobody else does.