Chiang Mai Air Quality and Pollution

[sqwakvfr]

2 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Well you know the answer then.???? ✈️

I would but one night in SIN costs about the same as 5 nights in CNX.  When a country becomes a modern and efficient place most of us common folk cannot afford stay for long.  My belief is LOS will not become a modern efficient place in my life time (I am in my late 50's). This is actually a good thing for most of us long term foreign residents.  

[jeffandgop]

2.5 measurement at my home in Sansai ballooned from 44 (7am) to now 185!!!! What????????

[JimmyJ]

6 minutes ago, jeffandgop said:

2.5 measurement at my home in Sansai ballooned from 44 (7am) to now 185!!!! What????????

Using your own.pm2.5 device (I suspect not) or seeingbthis on a website?

[jeffandgop]

3 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

Using your own.pm2.5 device (I suspect not) or seeingbthis on a website?

My own device made by a CMU Professor in his lab....very reliable

[jeffandgop]

5 minutes ago, jeffandgop said:

My own device made by a CMU Professor in his lab....very reliable

Before I even looked at that high reading I could see coming from the north a thick hazy smog layer heading for where I live...it is now dissipating...but at 8am monitors at Tonkla are reporting readings of 116 and Ruamchok 70....both locations were reporting higher levels at 6am...

[Tarteso]

According with Dtac, the smog.. Better together 

 

I just saw a few  simple minded tourists and Thais properly equipped, cycling way to Sirilana National Park using helmets, dark glasses and….open mouths while biking..What a pity !.

[Tarteso]

56 minutes ago, jeffandgop said:

2.5 measurement at my home in Sansai ballooned from 44 (7am) to now 185!!!! What????????

Calm down… is just only 182 ????

[JimmyJ]

Wow!

 

In CM and finally looked outside - Doi Suthep is barely visible.

(Should have looked before I leaped with a comment).

 

On a SNDWAY getting PM2.5 of 84 to 89 = AQI 166 - 168!

 

Red Zone = (officially) Unhealthy = 151 - 200.

 

(Realistically - Healthy reading is Zero).

 

 

 

[motdaeng]

the air quality is great again ...

 

 

[KhunLA]

32 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

the air quality is great again ...

 

 

No need to ask why one of the reasons I live below Hua Hin.  75+ AQI is horrendous as far as I'm concerned.  Thankfully only a couple months a year down here, though getting worse every year.

[Rimmer]

An off topic post has been removed, this is the Chiang Mai forum discussing Air Quality & Pollution

[motdaeng]

business as usual at this time of year ...

 

[at15]

been 300-500 aqi every morning in lampang, highest in the world.

[Gweiloman]

Definitely not helped by all those diesel fumes bellowing from trucks and pickups. CM should be made a ULEZ lol

[BananaStrong]

My kids are coughing, sore throat, brains can’t grow, skin destroyed, lungs destroyed….

 

I tell the 19 of them……..listen, Thailand is cheap!   Can’t have everything.   Save 11 baht, miserable life.  It’s worth it!     Take your life expectancy and subtract 10 years while being sick the last 20.

[JimmyJ]

Right now outside in CM = 

PM2.5 144-147 = AQI 197-198 so on the very top edge of the "Unhealthy" Red Zone.

 

In mid-Feb.

 

Horrifying.

[BritManToo]

It's a bit smoggy today, but still nice eating by the river. 

[Tarteso]

What? ☹️

[StayinThailand2much]

5 hours ago, motdaeng said:

business as usual at this time of year ...

 

500?? Are they still alive there?

[VocalNeal]

I've been up north for 2 1/2 years now. It is what it is. No point complaining.

One wonders why the complainer still live up north.????

[ed79]

This is Nov22 vs last week.  Taken from Tops Supermarket about 6.5km in a straight line from the temple.

 

 

It's got worse since then.  I've been here since the start of November and yesterday and today have been the worst so far. 

 

At a distance of 6km, Doi Suthep was completely invisible.   My AQ monitor was reading 220 yesterday morning on my balcony.

[SoilSpoil]

On 2/14/2023 at 2:55 PM, VocalNeal said:

I've been up north for 2 1/2 years now. It is what it is. No point complaining.

One wonders why the complainer still live up north.????

Not everyone, including millions of Thai, have the choice to just relocate. What an ignorant remark!

[john terran]

My air purifier can't even clean the air in my place. Only reduces the pm 2.5 slightly. Normally it works well, but I need to buy a new one just to handle days like this.

[brommers]

So at 8am it was an acceptable AQI of 58. Now at 14:00 hrs it is 156! There must have been some very concerted fire lighting overnight because CM is rapidly moving up the world ranking. Well done Somchai, we are number 9 globally.

[orchis]

my village
today

[novacova]

It might lighten up a little in next day or two, maybe worse is yet to come if the stuff from the west or northeast comes in.

[Northstar1]

Living the retirement dream in Chang nobyl?

air quality is deadly!

why would anyone try to convince themselves it’s a great place?

[rose33]

On 11/13/2019 at 11:04 AM, canopy said:

Aside from this I completely agree with everything you said and I really enjoy and admire your upbeat attitude and incredible photos and inspiring experiences. To give you a comparison expats in my area tend to come from working class backgrounds, are overweight, in poor health, no fitness, poor diet, and their only care in the world seems to be saving a few baht at makro. They don't talk about air pollution and astonishingly I find many are in fact out there burning their plastic trash in their yards just like the thai's do. They don't have air purifiers or air monitors and they're bored to death if you bring the air up while drinking their cheap chang in front of them. I have yet to meet one expat that cares about the air pollution or even the environment. Thailand seems to attract a certain type of individual. I see there are a few concerned here at Thaivisa and that's good. But it's not a popular topic as clearly the lions share of expats are lamenting visa changes, TAT numbers, government competency, and those sorts of things which get more posts in a day than this subject will in a year.

 

And asking for clean air to breathe is not asking for perfection. It's asking the minority to stop being selfish and ruining the air everyone else is breathing and making innocent people sick and die for no good reason. It's just asking for the most basic courtesy and concern for others sharing the air, not perfection.

 

Finally, saying something just lops say the last 2 years off your life would indeed be ideal, but that's not how it works. You'll get ground down 2 years earlier. Everything goes bad 2 years before it should. You lose 2 good years, not 2 bad ones trimmed off the end. It can be difficult for some to accept part of short time we have on the earth being stolen by inconsiderate people whose habits would not be tolerated one bit where we come from and surely in the future, not in Thailand either.

 

Pardon my ignorance about the cause of smoky season.

 

What are you implying is the cause? 

- large numbers of people burning plastic rubbish in backyard?

- or, a small number of selfish people creating the smoky season (presumably through agricultural burnoff). 

 

Which?

[nigelforbes]

40 minutes ago, rose33 said:

Pardon my ignorance about the cause of smoky season.

 

What are you implying is the cause? 

- large numbers of people burning plastic rubbish in backyard?

- or, a small number of selfish people creating the smoky season (presumably through agricultural burnoff). 

 

Which?

The correct answer is large numbers of rural farmers, small holders, contract farmers and large scale agricultural producers, particularly in Shan state and laos.

[motdaeng]

12 hours ago, nigelforbes said:

The correct answer is large numbers of rural farmers, small holders, contract farmers and large scale agricultural producers, particularly in Shan state and laos.

... particularly in Shan state and laos ... all over thailand !!!!!!

 

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