Eight British tourists injured in Pattaya van crash

[LennyW]

You can see the blowout so no lies on that front.

However, must have been doing quite a speed to whip the passengers out the back door like that.

 

[Sticky Wicket]

1 hour ago, saengd said:

A three handed driver, there's something you don't see every day. 

you don't need any hands to drink from a bottle ????

[jacko45k]

12 hours ago, Sticky Wicket said:

It's amazing how people will spend 5-10k on a night out but penny pinch on transportation.

I haven't been on one of those death buses for years 

Me neither, and it took me the comment about seat belts to realize this. They never used to have them. I would be interested to hear one of the passenger's comments as to the driving style. I use a taxi and sometimes have to complain about speed and phone use. 

[kcpattaya]

"British" tourists?

Really?

[bluesofa]

8 minutes ago, kcpattaya said:

"British" tourists?

Really?

Yes, it's tattooed on the back of the neck.

[RichardColeman]

15 hours ago, webfact said:

while his eight British passengers sustained different levels of injuries, with three being in a critical condition.

I feel confident that all the medical , compensation and potential immigration bills will be adequately insured , covered and paid by the taxi company. I believe the moon is made of cheese too

[MasterBaker]

you cannot pay me enough to ever get in one of those vans unless i will be on suicide mission

[overherebc]

3 hours ago, saengd said:

That driver had no idea how to control a skid, he'd be hopeless on snow or ice, if he'd turned into the skid he could probably have retained control.....it's a training thing..

Throw in the fact that it's very likely the tyres tend to be over inflated in many cases and checked using the standard pressure checker ( attached )

blow-outs are quite common.

[Wiggy]

I blame the guy who sold the driver the wrong amulets.

[saengd]

2 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Throw in the fact that it's very likely the tyres tend to be over inflated in many cases and checked using the standard pressure checker ( attached )

blow-outs are quite common.

Amazingly that's a picture of a Hanwag hiking boot from the 1990's, I know because I have a pair. They are one of the best quality hiking boots made anywhere in the world.

[Assurancetourix]

16 hours ago, Just1Voice said:

speeding on bald tires.  Never a good idea

 

and over-inflated tires as usual.
The manufacturer data Isuzu says 29 PSI for the four wheels of my pickup;
well even at the isuzu dealer I have to check that they do not put me 40 PSI as they have very bad habit everywhere .

 

They were lucky (in their misfortune);
burst rear tire it looks like this on a pickup that was, in my opinion, overloaded (as usual) 

 

[NanLaew]

15 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Probably no safety belts plus driving too fast, straight to Bangkok Pattaya where the hospital can make max profit

What do you suggest? Leave them bleeding out at the roadside?

[bkk6060]

4 hours ago, saengd said:

That driver had no idea how to control a skid, he'd be hopeless on snow or ice, if he'd turned into the skid he could probably have retained control.....it's a training thing..

False.

At that speed he was metal on roadway.

One cannot reset control of that size/weight van.

Edited January 15, 2020 by bkk6060

[saengd]

7 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

False.

At that speed he was metal on roadway.

One cannot reset control of that size/weight van.

I disagree! If he'd blown a front tyre I might agree.

[Destiny1990]

Luckily the Van has full triple A insurance and the tourists will receive full free medical care and financial compensation payment or am i too optimistic?

[pixelaoffy]

Vans going from the airport should illegal ! What happened to the law against long journeys in vans ? Lawless dangerous Thailand rules

[Paul Henry]

No seat belts?

[jacko45k]

51 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Throw in the fact that it's very likely the tyres tend to be over inflated in many cases and checked using the standard pressure checker ( attached )

blow-outs are quite common.

Whenever I have a new tyre or repair here it gets inflated to rock hard, 55 psi. One time it even blew my pressure gauge apart. I have learned to let the air out... so you may have a point there. 

[whaleboneman]

15 minutes ago, saengd said:

I disagree! If he'd blown a front tyre I might agree.

Why do you disagree with logic? Don’t you think a rear tire provides traction on a curve? And did you notice how quickly the van spun out of control after the tire blew? I’m not sure Mario Andretti would have recovered.

[URMySunshine]

5 hours ago, Yahooka said:

And how many tourists are aware of this fact?

The Brits should update their travel advice to include minivans.

 

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand/safety-and-security#road-travel

[Borzandy]

15 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said:

If those farangs did not enter the minivan, the accident would not have happened. So they have to be fined and held responsible for the damage.

These pest British tourist again

[Cereal]

Looks like a blowout to me. This leaves several questions that need answering, primarily among them, what kind of shape was the tire in? Were all the tires the same with the same tread wear? Was that tire the replacement after a flat? Was that tire damaged somehow, from hitting a curb for example? Was the rim of that tire damaged somehow, from hitting curb for example? Had the driver had any training whatsoever in defensive driving? (That's rhetorical) Was the driver tired after having been driving for too long? Was he using his phone at the time? Had he been drinking? Was he on drugs? Was his mind preoccupied because his mia noi is pregnant and threatened to call his wife? And on and on.......

[Borzandy]

Nice video, clearly British tourists fault.

[Kerryd]

4 people thrown from the van and all get up and walk around. Very lucky indeed.

Not how you want to start your holiday for sure.

 

As for the minivan, I thought those were banned awhile ago ?

As for the tourists using that method to get to Pattaya, it is quite likely that they didn't know any better, or know of any other options, or possible the trip was arranged for them and they simply went where they were told to go.

[overherebc]

39 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

False.

At that speed he was metal on roadway.

One cannot reset control of that size/weight van.

Agree. Correcting a slide like that would require 4 good tyres still in contact with the road and even then teaching any driver anywhere to stop the first reaction of stomping on the brake ( or break as it's often called on TV ) would take a lot of training on a custom skid pan.

Edited January 15, 2020 by overherebc

[DualSportBiker]

You can see something appear on the road at the position of the rear left wheel just as it veers off right. Not sure what you "he was asleep" complainers are drinking/smoking, but the evidence is right in front of you.

[URMySunshine]

1 hour ago, Wiggy said:

I blame the guy who sold the driver the wrong amulets.

Most van drivers can't afford the real thing hence the high rate of accidents with the fake or copies. So ask the driver whether their amulet is real - when they inevitably laugh get out as the van is undoubtedly unsafe. 

 

https://www.phrasiam.com/article/the-most-famous-amulet-and-the-most-expensive-amulet-in-thailand/

 

This amulet is a perfect fit for those who want an invisible protection from what they can see and what they cannot see at all times. This is why the price of an authentic LP. Thuad is one of the highest in Thailand as the amulet has saved many, where without LP. Thuad amulets those people would not be able to tell the tales that we hear today.

[overherebc]

17 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Whenever I have a new tyre or repair here it gets inflated to rock hard, 55 psi. One time it even blew my pressure gauge apart. I have learned to let the air out... so you may have a point there. 

I've picked up my car from servicing a couple of times and always use my own gauge on the tyres. Usually anything from 35 to 40 psi in them. 28/30 being the stated values in the book.

[hotchilli]

17 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Welcome to Thailand get well soon

Hope your visa is longer than your stay in hospital and you have adequate funds to cover your medical bills before your flight home. 

Come back soon.... bring friends!

Condolences to the injured.

[Wiggy]

1 hour ago, Assurancetourix said:

and over-inflated tires as usual.
The manufacturer data Isuzu says 29 PSI for the four wheels of my pickup;
well even at the isuzu dealer I have to check that they do not put me 40 PSI as they have very bad habit everywhere .

 

They were lucky (in their misfortune);
burst rear tire it looks like this on a pickup that was, in my opinion, overloaded (as usual) 

 

I agree. Every time my Honda Civic comes back from a service at Honda, the first thing I do is reduce the tyre pressure from 40 psi to the recommended 32. I've asked them not to over inflate the tyres but just the usual blank look and smile.