The French fishermen who could sink Britain's post-Brexit ambitions

[transam]

4 minutes ago, evadgib said:

"I'm Spartacus" ????

I hate to admit it, but it seems I am of Norman stock, no not Wisdom.......????

[vogie]

1 minute ago, transam said:

I hate to admit it, but it seems I am of Norman stock, no not Wisdom.......????

My paternal grandfather was born in the Gorbals and my maternal grandmother was Welsh, seems like I have all the credentials to hate the English like most on here.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

My paternal grandfather was born in the Gorbals and my maternal grandmother was Welsh, seems like I have all the credentials to hate the English like most on here.

I'm OK though, mum was born within the sound of Bow Bells.....????

[NeoDinosaw]

5 hours ago, blazes said:

I would think the result of this little squabble is known in advance: the last time the French won a battle over the English was in 1066 (and even then it was only the Norman French).

If this statement were right, England woud still hold half of France ! We did win some majot battles later (Crecy, Agincourt) which all Brits know about thanks to Shakespear and Olivier's Henri 5. But we must have lost a lot (obvously I do not know them) later to end the 100 Year War.  We realy should have claimed back Normandy after liberating it (with US help) in 1944  ..........

[smedly]

take a long hard look at the balance of trade between UK and EU

 

Some pretty pointless nonsense bitter posts on this thread by people who just don't get it

 

as for Scotland - part of the UK with no change any time soon and also worth noting Scotland trade

 

- 60% within the UK

- 23% with the world

- 17% with EU

 

the republican SNP will be wiped out in the local elections next year just like LAB

[sawadee1947]

3 hours ago, stephenterry said:

Again, this fishing rights issue is old news. The subject of how the UK would actually enact Brexit after departure has never been properly ascertained. It's all very well to leave the EU, but 'what then?' has been a constant unanswered question, not only by the politicians but on this site as well.

 

The government, IMO, promotes having a magic wand that would resolve all the difficulties facing the UK in ACTUALLY leaving the EU, and trading elsewhere as a single entity.  If anyone on here thinks it's going to be a walk in the park, I beg to differ in that I could see there would be many occasions when conflict over future trade agreement halts the process during 2020. Fishing rights is one of them. And the reality is that the UK needs a trade agreement with the largest single market in Europe to prosper going it alone.

 

The Tory government are due for a rude awakening and a hard slog to take the UK forward - I support this as a basic necessity for the economy, even though I consider they're not up to the job as evidenced in the past few years. It will be a long and winding road, have no doubt fellow posters.  

  

Yes, I'll buy it. 

Aparingly many of British TV members are dreaming of a long already vanished empire far away from reality. In this global world there is no place for little countries fighting on their own. 

To secure prosperity it's ultimate ratio to build up trading blocs in order to use maximum power. 

It would be advised to stop words and phrases used in war times. 

UK is a devided country thanks to UK's incapable governments (and sure it was not wise for EU not to explain the disadvantages of Brexit prior to that awful referendum) 

UK lost all reputation in this struggle and it's almost impossible to trust that government which is not working for a nation but for themselves. 

They dumped the chance of creating a united Europe with chances for free movement and education for everyone. 

Only with better education this seperation from mainland Europe could have been prevented and now reversed. 

[maingmoom]

It's a shame we are not leaving on WTO terms. It would save all this <deleted> being spoken on here.

[NeoDinosaw]

5 minutes ago, maingmoom said:

It's a shame we are not leaving on WTO terms. It would save all this <deleted> being spoken on here.

We will be leaving on WTO terms  'cos Bonkin' Boris won't get a good deal  by the end of this year.  It's all in the plan  = don't worry !

[david555]

21 minutes ago, maingmoom said:

It's a shame we are not leaving on WTO terms. It would save all this <deleted> being spoken on here.

 Patience , just a 6 month's waiting and it shall apear on the horizon ..

no other solution after the Tory awakening ..????

No alingment with E.U. is your garantie on your wish ????

 

Edited January 31, 2020 by david555

[samran]

34 minutes ago, maingmoom said:

It's a shame we are not leaving on WTO terms. It would save all this <deleted> being spoken on here.

Careful what you wish for! 

[transam]

37 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Yes, I'll buy it. 

Aparingly many of British TV members are dreaming of a long already vanished empire far away from reality. In this global world there is no place for little countries fighting on their own. 

To secure prosperity it's ultimate ratio to build up trading blocs in order to use maximum power. 

It would be advised to stop words and phrases used in war times. 

UK is a devided country thanks to UK's incapable governments (and sure it was not wise for EU not to explain the disadvantages of Brexit prior to that awful referendum) 

UK lost all reputation in this struggle and it's almost impossible to trust that government which is not working for a nation but for themselves. 

They dumped the chance of creating a united Europe with chances for free movement and education for everyone. 

Only with better education this seperation from mainland Europe could have been prevented and now reversed. 

Oh hello, only a couple of hours now when what the populous voted for will be implimented...Freedom at last...But, I wish you luck with your furure..........

[vogie]

Just now, transam said:

Oh hello, only a couple of hours now when what the populous voted for will be implimented...Freedom at last...But, I wish you luck with your furure..........

Enjoy the craic.

[sawadee1947]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Oh hello, only a couple of hours now when what the populous voted for will be implimented...Freedom at last...But, I wish you luck with your furure..........

I feel sorry for your children... 

[transam]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

Enjoy the craic.

I am, plus the neysayers here have virtualy all disappeared.....Where are you...?  ????

[transam]

3 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

I feel sorry for your children... 

My children have children, and they have children, I believe they have stocked up for a party tonight....

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

I am, plus the neysayers here have virtualy all disappeared.....Where are you...?  ????

Home, will be getting ready shortly to come around to your house.????????????????????

[sawadee1947]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

My children have children, and they have children, I believe they have stocked up for a party tonight....

They should better see a doctor for brain wash ????

[natway09]

I talked about the fishing problem related to Brexit 3 years ago & they still did not even sort this out in all that time. Fishing alone will cost lives as there will be a "fishing war"

which should have all been clarified before,,, but holidays take preference no doubt

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, natway09 said:

I talked about the fishing problem related to Brexit 3 years ago & they still did not even sort this out in all that time. Fishing alone will cost lives as there will be a "fishing war"

which should have all been clarified before,,, but holidays take preference no doubt

I believe it has already started.

 

 

[Laughing Gravy]

The French along with the Dutch and Spanish have raped the UK fishing waters for far too long.

 

The UK people are now aware of it and what happened. The French should be compensating the UK for their greed along with the others.

[Laughing Gravy]

1 hour ago, sawadee1947 said:

Yes, I'll buy it. 

Aparingly many of British TV members are dreaming of a long already vanished empire far away from reality. In this global world there is no place for little countries fighting on their own. 

To secure prosperity it's ultimate ratio to build up trading blocs in order to use maximum power. 

It would be advised to stop words and phrases used in war times. 

UK is a devided country thanks to UK's incapable governments (and sure it was not wise for EU not to explain the disadvantages of Brexit prior to that awful referendum) 

UK lost all reputation in this struggle and it's almost impossible to trust that government which is not working for a nation but for themselves. 

They dumped the chance of creating a united Europe with chances for free movement and education for everyone. 

Only with better education this seperation from mainland Europe could have been prevented and now reversed. 

Come in number 76. Where are you. I hope you will be celebrating tonight that the UK is released from its 47 year bondage.

Edited January 31, 2020 by Laughing Gravy

[Rookiescot]

Thats it guys keep up the Dunkirk spirit.

 

Its just like the blitz eh?

 

Imagine being in one of the underground shelters where 52% of the people in there had voted for the blitz and the other 48% hadn't.

[Laughing Gravy]

8 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Thats it guys keep up the Dunkirk spirit.

 

Its just like the blitz eh?

 

Imagine being in one of the underground shelters where 52% of the people in there had voted for the blitz and the other 48% hadn't.

Please don't be so melodramatic. The loss of millions of life in a war is nothing you should even try and compare with.

 

 

[melvinmelvin]

 

if the French seafood industry get together on this and put pressure on Macron

this issue could prove rather tricky

French protesters don't give in easily - they are stayers

 

Cannot remember off hand if BJ has expressed a clear policy re UK waters

[Rookiescot]

Just now, Laughing Gravy said:

Please don't be so melodramatic. The loss of millions of life in a war is nothing you should even try and compare with.

 

 

I'm just going by all the pro Brexit posts appearing all over the internet proclaiming we got through the blitz so Brexit will be no problem.

If its good enough for Brexiteers to speak about it then its good enough for me.

Anyway what happened to your party spirit and jovial mood. It was meant as a lighthearted jibe. 

[melvinmelvin]

 

Does UK presently actually have a suitable fleet for harvesting UK waters?

[sawadee1947]

11 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Thats it guys keep up the Dunkirk spirit.

 

Its just like the blitz eh?

 

Imagine being in one of the underground shelters where 52% of the people in there had voted for the blitz and the other 48% hadn't.

Your words are disgusting. It's a world war 2 language which I hoped we had overcome. ????

 

[damascase]

2 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

if the French seafood industry get together on this and put pressure on Macron

this issue could prove rather tricky

French protesters don't give in easily - they are stayers

 

Cannot remember off hand if BJ has expressed a clear policy re UK waters

I haven’t noticed a clear policy on anything, yet........

[david555]

5 hours ago, sirineou said:

Let me see if I understand this correctly, The British want to be granted a  special deal for access to EU markets but they don't want to grand special access to their fishing grounds.  

Exactly from the beginning so....out of the club and keeping all privilages for free on top ......named "get our cake and eat it .."

 

Was always their objective..... "living the Imperial dream "    

[Laughing Gravy]

8 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

I'm just going by all the pro Brexit posts appearing all over the internet proclaiming we got through the blitz so Brexit will be no problem.

If its good enough for Brexiteers to speak about it then its good enough for me.

Anyway what happened to your party spirit and jovial mood. It was meant as a lighthearted jibe. 

Well I don't consider the loss of millions of peoples lives in the war as lighthearted. Appearing all over the internet?

 

I don't see so many here as I believe most posters are level headed and respectful, no matter what side of the Brexit fence you sit.

 

I am in great spirit. Soon it will be Gin (Gordons of course). Who knows what next.