2rist Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Does the employer or employee pay for the work permit? They claim that they usually front the money then deduct out of paycheck. In my case, I guess because I'm a higher paid worker, they are asking me to just pay outright for the permit + multiple entry visa, total about 11,000 THB. Seems sketchy or normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puchooay Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, 2rist said: Seems sketchy or normal? Expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) Afaik a work permit costs about 3000 and a multiple re entry permit 3800. Is the 1900 for the extension also included? Especially in a higher paying job they should pay for your work permit and not ask you to pay. Edited February 7, 2020 by jackdd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elviajero Posted February 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2020 40 minutes ago, 2rist said: Does the employer or employee pay for the work permit? Depends on the arrangement between the employer and employee. There is no set rule. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thenewgoo Posted February 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2020 A reputable employer would cover these costs. Many don't however. Ultimately it should an agreement as part (or not) of your contract negotiation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Yaaai Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 As already mentioned, there's no set rule to this but I've never encountered having to pay for visa/extension/WP matters myself. 11k THB sounds expensive, is multiple entry included in this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asanee Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Another lesson to learn and never assume anything. Maybe the boss is so unused to this all or does not have the time or nerve or skills to all arrange it that he hires one of the dozens of intermediate ´helpers´ and simply quotes the price quoted to him. or slaps on his own fee after having regretted your pay as being too high. Or assumes that any price from govmt is of course without the required Tmoney under the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cricky Posted February 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 6:57 PM, 2rist said: they are asking me to just pay outright for the permit + multiple entry visa, total about 11,000 THB. Resign not a great start to your new career I can see things going pear shaped 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fak119 Posted February 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 7:37 PM, elviajero said: Depends on the arrangement between the employer and employee. There is no set rule. If the employer doesn't, don't work for him. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) A good employer would pay for it. 11K is way more than the actual cost. Would never work for them. Edited February 8, 2020 by FritsSikkink 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Do you not suspect that someone is lining their own pocket here, it sounds likely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) On 2/7/2020 at 6:57 PM, 2rist said: Does the employer or employee pay for the work permit? It depends on 1) How desperate you are for the work. 2) How badly they need you. Got to say, I've never considered working for anyone that didn't pay ALL my expenses. I'd just say no and walk away How about you? Edited February 9, 2020 by BritManToo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickets Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 A good one will pay upfront for you. A bad one will give it back to you when you finish your contract. A terrible one wont pay it back at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 My company pays all costs for the work permit. With the agent fees involved, it runs about 15,000 in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 6 hours ago, timendres said: With the agent fees involved Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 IMO, if the employer pays the 3,100 baht for the work permit it shows a lot how much you're liked. An ordinary Non-B visa is only 1,900 baht if you have all docs together and able do so it at the local immigration. You need the work permit to do your job. Let the employer pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moontang Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 2/9/2020 at 9:32 AM, crickets said: A good one will pay upfront for you. A bad one will give it back to you when you finish your contract. A terrible one wont pay it back at all. And don't forget the employers, who won't be able to obtain one, period. An unlicensed franchise of a school.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 6:57 PM, 2rist said: They claim that they usually front the money then deduct out of paycheck. Usually I paid then they added to my salary. Someone is trying to rip you off. How much of a door mat are you? Get your visa yourself if you are desperate for work. How much more are you paid? If it's 100k a month more, just pay it. If it's 5k a month don't. I'd tell the company where to go. Sounds like you work for an agency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myran Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) Any decent one would. Asking the employee to do it is like asking him to bring his own chair. Edited February 10, 2020 by Myran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 6:57 PM, 2rist said: I guess because I'm a higher paid worker, they are asking me to just pay outright for the permit + multiple entry visa, total about 11,000 THB. If you are higher paid then why worry about the 11,000? That is maybe less than a days salary? They probably use an agent anyway so that's where most of the money goes. As Nike would say....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saakura Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Hello 2rist, did you enter in a Tourist visa and now converting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleeagle Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 What kind of employer would not pay for and arrange work permit? Not one Id work for thats for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varun Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Most professional companies cover the costs of the WP and extension of stay. This is usually stipulated in the employment contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Already been answered but real company with real job will cover cost of WP, unless company has a track record of staff leaving , in which case have to wonder why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiddled Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Sketchy, for the reasons provided above. Also, the work permit is not yours. It's theirs, really. It doesn't authorize you to work anywhere else. Even reputable employers will often keep the work permits on site (letting employees sign them out if they need them for something). Yeah, this just screams "run away." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 8 hours ago, scottiddled said: Sketchy, for the reasons provided above. Also, the work permit is not yours. It's theirs, really. It doesn't authorize you to work anywhere else. Even reputable employers will often keep the work permits on site (letting employees sign them out if they need them for something). Yeah, this just screams "run away." The work permit is YOURS, not theirs. Nowadays you can work for different branches of the same company in different areas if the company informs the labour office that you will be there, meaning they don't have to apply for a new work permit in the new area as they did before. You should keep your work permit ( just don't lose it ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventenio Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 had both experiences. Total costs with traveling and everything and months and months...can be OVER 20,000. This is what you do. Tell them you will QUIT if they don't pay. Simple. really. It's amazing how deep their pockets are if they like you. I've learned how to use leverage. If you have some self-worth, you will muster the courage and be strong in your one and only life. Be a man!!! Don't let them walk on you!! if things don't work out, don't blame me. lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloudy Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 A decent employer would cover the cost of the work permit and Non B. Id stay far away from any on who will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventenio Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, overherebc said: The work permit is YOURS, not theirs. Nowadays you can work for different branches of the same company in different areas if the company informs the labour office that you will be there, meaning they don't have to apply for a new work permit in the new area as they did before. You should keep your work permit ( just don't lose it ). They can certainly go and cancel it. So, yes, it's yours, but they control it. Keep it, but they can cancel it and change terms and good luck going to BKK and fighting it in court. if they want to cancel it, they definitely can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ventenio said: They can certainly go and cancel it. So, yes, it's yours, but they control it. Keep it, but they can cancel it and change terms and good luck going to BKK and fighting it in court. if they want to cancel it, they definitely can. That's why they want to keep it. They make the mistake of believing if they just cancel it then they will not have to pay severence or notice payments to you. If they do so and tell you on monday you are finished just take your contract and pay slips to your local labour office and they 'will' fight your case, for free. Of course 'lawyers' will tell you different. Edited February 11, 2020 by overherebc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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