4 minutes ago, izod10 said:

Cliff?what cliff.  You do not know what you are talking about,just rubbish.  Do you not get fed up with your outpouring of basically pigswill.

   The UK is in a most envious position    the EU will be driven into oblivion,   ps  hope it is

So you cant actually refute my post and simply post insults.

Its the Brexiteer way.

22 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

We are not in the EU.

As for unemployment rates. The figures have been twisted for so long that they are now meaningless. If unemployment is so low why did Patel state yesterday that there are 8 million economically inactive people in the UK? 

We are in the G7 and our economy is growing faster than any other country that is a G7 country in the EU, does that clear things up.

If you don't agree with something, the figures have been twisted, says it all really, always somebody elses fault, if all else fails blame Brexit.

29 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

We are not in the EU.

As for unemployment rates. The figures have been twisted for so long that they are now meaningless. If unemployment is so low why did Patel state yesterday that there are 8 million economically inactive people in the UK? 

Almost half of them will be EU citizens,eastern ones at that.   The right to live and work in the UK is about to be denied to them  No free money,really a good one that

38 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Moaning?

We are waiting for Brexiteers to explain how they are going to address the issues they have caused. Somehow you have convinced yourselves telling the truth and asking questions is "talking the UK down".

Brexit is already a disaster. Job loses and costs are mounting. The price we have paid is already higher than all the contributions we have made to the EU while we were a member.

Its just part of the "short term pain". 

Tell me. When will the "short term pain" finish? 

It won't. Once car plants in the UK are faced with the inefficiencies of losing their just-in-time inventory systems, they will look to relocate. you can already see their panic reaction, in reacting to the stoppage of parts from China, due to the virus.

32 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

We are not in the EU.

As for unemployment rates. The figures have been twisted for so long that they are now meaningless. If unemployment is so low why did Patel state yesterday that there are 8 million economically inactive people in the UK? 

Wait until all those brexit voting pensioners discover that in order to continue to receive one of the lowest pensions in the west, multi-millionaire Patel expects them to go picking turnips. 

42 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Wait until all those brexit voting pensioners discover that in order to continue to receive one of the lowest pensions in the west, multi-millionaire Patel expects them to go picking turnips. 

Funny u said that,was 17 th in the list,but the majority were all around the UKs figure

2 hours ago, vogie said:

We are in the G7 and our economy is growing faster than any other country that is a G7 country in the EU, does that clear things up.

If you don't agree with something, the figures have been twisted, says it all really, always somebody elses fault, if all else fails blame Brexit.

Right so you are limiting it to having higher growth in europe than France Germany and Italy.

 

In a word. NO.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/30/uk-falls-to-bottom-of-g7-growth-league-in-second-quarter

 

Now of course you will come back with a claim that its the Guardian. Not to be believed. We should get our figures from a reputable source like the Daily Mail. A newspaper which is so bad that even wikipidia refuses to use them.

20 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Right so you are limiting it to having higher growth in europe than France Germany and Italy.

 

In a word. NO.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/30/uk-falls-to-bottom-of-g7-growth-league-in-second-quarter

 

Now of course you will come back with a claim that its the Guardian. Not to be believed. We should get our figures from a reputable source like the Daily Mail. A newspaper which is so bad that even wikipidia refuses to use them.

Gains in the exchange rate come courtesy of a combination of Sterling strength following the release of some solid UK labour market statistics, see here, but the most significant driver appears to be an ongoing bout of weakness in the Euro linked to concerns the outlook for the Eurozone economy has deteriorated owing to China's coronavirus outbreak.

And amidst expectations for the UK economy to improve in the post election period, investors see a widening economic performance gap between the Eurozone and UK which should help the Pound outperform the Euro.

Analysts at Credit Suisse say they are expecting a 10 basis point interest rate cut at the European Central Bank (ECB) in the second quarter of 2020, as a response to the chronic economic underperformance in the Eurozone.

"Both direct (falling exports to Asia), and indirect (production affected by disrupted supply chains) effects will likely lead to a material fall in manufacturing surveys, such as the PMIs, in the months ahead, possibly of around 4-5 points. That’ll be especially true for Germany, which is highly exposed to both," says Neville Hill, Managing Director and Chief Economist Europe for the Investment Strategy and Research department at Credit Suisse in London.

 Fatherland Kaput

 

 

3 hours ago, izod10 said:

Almost half of them will be EU citizens,eastern ones at that.   The right to live and work in the UK is about to be denied to them  No free money,really a good one that

And your assertion is 100% false.

4 hours ago, izod10 said:

Almost half of them will be EU citizens,eastern ones at that.   The right to live and work in the UK is about to be denied to them  No free money,really a good one that

 

58 minutes ago, candide said:

And your assertion is 100% false.

Unemployment rates and inactivity rates for EU nationals are lower  than for UK nationals, and they represent less than 5% of population. So there is no way that "half of them" could be EU nationals.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/articles/ukandnonukpeopleinthelabourmarket/november2019

5 hours ago, paddypower said:

It won't. Once car plants in the UK are faced with the inefficiencies of losing their just-in-time inventory systems, they will look to relocate. you can already see their panic reaction, in reacting to the stoppage of parts from China, due to the virus.

Never been a better time to go Dutch.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/companies-go-dutch-to-avoid-fallout-from-brexit-jj83qgjmh

2 hours ago, candide said:

 

Unemployment rates and inactivity rates for EU nationals are lower  than for UK nationals, and they represent less than 5% of population. So there is no way that "half of them" could be EU nationals.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/articles/ukandnonukpeopleinthelabourmarket/november2019

Counting benefits,working tax credits,child,housing they are all at,...until end of year    bye 'bye spongers

45 minutes ago, izod10 said:

Counting benefits,working tax credits,child,housing they are all at,...until end of year    bye 'bye spongers

Most benefits are paid to people who are already working but just in very low paid jobs.

Do you really think they are spongers?

46 minutes ago, izod10 said:

Counting benefits,working tax credits,child,housing they are all at,...until end of year    bye 'bye spongers

Actually:

- they have a higher rate of employment than UK nationals and they pay taxes

- they are younger (few over 65) so consume less health benefits than UK nationals

So EU nationals are currently subsidising benefits for UK nationals.

19 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

England will be bankrupt when Scotland leaves. Scotland will do just fine. We will keep free prescriptions and education and our NHS.

Currency? We better start our own because the pound will be trading on par with the Zimbabwean dollar after we leave.

Pretty sure the EU will welcome us back in no problem. After all we will have got rid of the English nationalists and will be a progressive nation not North Korea by the Thames.

What you think Spain with its problems with the natives in Catalonia and Basque region getting restless won,,t veto your entry bid?still academic as you,'ll have to have another vote.So you take the high road and we,'ll take the low road,and you,'ll be bankrupt before us.Well

11 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Brexit is already a disaster. Job loses and costs are mounting. The price we have paid is already higher than all the contributions we have made to the EU while we were a member.

We already exposed the 'cost of Brexit' versus EU contributions as a fallacy earlier in this thread.  Let's not go over old ground. 

 

- And as for jobs, as others have pointed out UK employment is at a record high. 

- Also job vacancies returned to growth for the first time in 11 months, rising by 7,000 to 810,000 for the quarter to January 2020.

- Also announced this week: Average weekly wages in the UK have reached their highest levels since before the financial crisis. Weekly pay reached £512 in the three months to December, which - adjusting for inflation - is the highest since March 2008.

 

Finally, this story went a bit under the radar this week: 

- US company Blackhall Studios and the University of Reading want to build the new £150m studios at Thames Valley Science Park.

Plans to develop the "largest purpose-built film studio" in the UK have been put forward in Reading. Blackhall said the move would "bring major Hollywood film productions to the UK" and create up to 3,000 jobs.

Ryan Millsap, chairman of Blackhall said the plans were made after the company's US-based clients Disney, Universal and Sony were "all asking us to expand into the UK to meet their desire to create productions here".

"We hope that the site at Thames Valley Science Park will be the start of a series of investments in the UK which will see investment in jobs, training and the creative arts across a range of disciplines," he added.

 

Sorry to burst your bubble of doom and gloom. 

 

 

A quote from Daniel Hannan.

 

"The Barnier line is basically "We are angry about Brexit, so you must have worse terms than anyone else, even if that hurts us as much as you". Fine, whatever. But how extraordinary that some Brits are now so bitter and warped that they are applauding him."

28 minutes ago, vogie said:

A quote from Daniel Hannan.

 

"The Barnier line is basically "We are angry about Brexit, so you must have worse terms than anyone else, even if that hurts us as much as you". Fine, whatever. But how extraordinary that some Brits are now so bitter and warped that they are applauding him."

 

It will hurt the UK far more than the EU.

You leave a club, you lose the privileges. People pay to join a club. Outsiders, by the very definition of a club, will receive less benefits.

it ain't rocket science, is it?

 

4 minutes ago, bannork said:

 

It will hurt the UK far more than the EU.

You leave a club, you lose the privileges. People pay to join a club. Outsiders, by the very definition of a club, will receive less benefits.

it ain't rocket science, is it?

 

Rubbish, BTW paying 13 billion a year is not a privilege. 

 

Let's wait and see how the EU balances their budget before you make such profound predictions.

 

Loop posting is boring, try to be more original.

6 minutes ago, vogie said:

Rubbish, BTW paying 13 billion a year is not a privilege. 

 

Let's wait and see how the EU balances their budget before you make such profound predictions.

 

Loop posting is boring, try to be more original.

You are forgetting all the money the UK gets back from the EU.

4.3 billion public sector receipts and 2.3 billion from the EU to the private sector.

This equals a return of 6.9 billion pounds shaved off your 13 billion.

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

 

75 benefits from the EU, most of which are not mentioned in the 9 billion pounds cost figures per year.

Thank you Edwin Hayward.

1. Unfettered access to the largest trade block in the world

2. Free trade deals with countries around the world, including Japan, Canada and South Korea

3. Just-in-time manufacturing, the kind that supports millions of jobs in the automotive, aerospace and other industries.

4. A wide-open border between Northern Ireland and Ireland, with no customs or other checks between NI and the rest of the UK

5. Support for the Good Friday Agreement & active promotion of the Irish peace process including PEACE funding (over EUR 1.5 billion to NI from 1995-2020).

6. The freedom for UK citizens to travel, work, study and retire anywhere in the EU

7. The freedom for EU citizens to travel, work, study and retire in the UK

8. Scientific and academic collaboration

9. Shared space exploration

10. Participation in Galileo GPS satellite cluster

11. Driving licenses valid all over the EU

12. Car insurance valid all over the EU

#13. Pet passports that make travel with pets easy

14. Simple fixed compensation scheme for flight delays & cancellations thanks to EU Air Passenger Rights.

15. European Health Insurance Card (EHIC)

16. Mobile roaming (calls, texts and data) at home prices

17. Longest unbroken peace in Europe (outside civil wars) for over a thousand years.

18. Portable streaming services (can watch Netflix etc. all over the EU)

19. Erasmus student exchange programme

20. Simplified VAT reverse charge mechanism for those selling across the EU

21. Enhanced consumer protection, including for cross-border shopping

22. Horizon 2020 (funding for over 10,000 research projects in the UK as part of world's largest multinational research.

programme.)mus student exchange programme

23. Training courses for the unemployed funded by the European Social Fund

24. Disaster relief funding e.g. the 60 million euro we received for flood relief in 2017

26. Enhanced environmental protections

27. Court of last resort (ECJ)

28. REACH regulations & EU Chemicals Agency, improving human, animal & environmental safety around chemicals

29. Safer medicines thanks to pan-EU testing regime.

30. Security cooperation and sharing of crime/terrorist databases

31. Participation in the European arrest warrant programme

32. EURATOM for medical isotopes

33. Support for rural areas ignored by successive UK Governments

34. Better food labelling.

35. EU funding for the British film industry, theatre and music

36. European Capital of Culture programme, which has boosted cities such as Glasgow and Liverpool

37. Service providers (e.g. freelance translators) can offer their services to clients all over the EU

38. No UK VAT or duty on imports from the EU (great for online shopping

39. EU citizenship (it's a real thing with real benefits - look it up!)

40. Cross-border collaboration on taxes, to hold huge firms like Amaz

on and Facebook to account more than we otherwise could.

41. Venture capital funding and startup loans

42. Legal protection for minority languages such as Welsh

43. Mutual recognition of academic qualifications

44. Legal protection for foods of geographic origin, e.g. Melton Mowbray pork pies

45. No credit and debit card surcharges.

46. EU structural funding (eg. £2 billion to Liverpool) with matched private funding requirement

47. Supporting and encouraging democracy in post-communist countries

48. A bigger, stronger presence on the world stage

49. Use of EU queues at ports and airports.

50. Products made or grown in the UK can be sold in 31 countries without type approval, customs duties, phytosanitary certificates etc.

51. Protection from GM food and chlorinated chicken

52. Objective 1 funding for deprived areas and regions.

53. Financial services passport, enabling firms in the City to service the whole EU market

54. Strong intellectual property protections

55. University education in other EU countries at "home student" rates (many still have free universities).

56. Mutual recognition of professional qualifications

57. Consular protection from any EU embassy outside the EU

58. Baseline of worker protections (which we can also improve on)

59. Keep open the EU market to which we send more than half the fish we catch.

60. Enhanced medical research prospects

61. A friend to cosy up to against the might of the USA and China

62. Seasonal workforce to pick our fruit and vegetables

63. A vital source of medicines (we import 37 million packs a month from the EU).

64. Minimum 2 year guarantee on all products

65. Protection against unfair treatment in the workplace thanks to the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights 66. Minimum of 4 weeks paid leave (introduced by EU in 1993, taken up by the UK in 1998 and later extended to 28 days in 2009).

67. More influence on environmental measures that transcend borders (we get to help shape the policies that 28 countries must follow)

68. A say in the running of the EU (if we were outside, the rest of the EU would carry on but we would have zero influence over its policies).

69. Cleaner air thanks to the EU Air Quality Directive

70. Legally enforced 14 day cooling off period on timeshare agreements

71. Some of the highest toy safety standards in the world 7

72. Protection of 500 bird species under legislation dating back to 1979, and amended in 2009.

73. Safer food

74. Clean beaches

75. Pan-EU institutions (e.g. food, chemicals etc.) save money by doing away for the need for equivalent domestic institutions

 

 

28 minutes ago, bannork said:

75 benefits from the EU, most of which are not mentioned in the 9 billion pounds cost figures per year.

Thank you Edwin Hayward.

1. Unfettered access to the largest trade block in the world

2. Free trade deals with countries around the world, including Japan, Canada and South Korea

3. Just-in-time manufacturing, the kind that supports millions of jobs in the automotive, aerospace and other industries.

4. A wide-open border between Northern Ireland and Ireland, with no customs or other checks between NI and the rest of the UK

5. Support for the Good Friday Agreement & active promotion of the Irish peace process including PEACE funding (over EUR 1.5 billion to NI from 1995-2020).

6. The freedom for UK citizens to travel, work, study and retire anywhere in the EU

7. The freedom for EU citizens to travel, work, study and retire in the UK

8. Scientific and academic collaboration

9. Shared space exploration

10. Participation in Galileo GPS satellite cluster

11. Driving licenses valid all over the EU

12. Car insurance valid all over the EU

#13. Pet passports that make travel with pets easy

14. Simple fixed compensation scheme for flight delays & cancellations thanks to EU Air Passenger Rights.

15. European Health Insurance Card (EHIC)

16. Mobile roaming (calls, texts and data) at home prices

17. Longest unbroken peace in Europe (outside civil wars) for over a thousand years.

18. Portable streaming services (can watch Netflix etc. all over the EU)

19. Erasmus student exchange programme

20. Simplified VAT reverse charge mechanism for those selling across the EU

21. Enhanced consumer protection, including for cross-border shopping

22. Horizon 2020 (funding for over 10,000 research projects in the UK as part of world's largest multinational research.

programme.)mus student exchange programme

23. Training courses for the unemployed funded by the European Social Fund

24. Disaster relief funding e.g. the 60 million euro we received for flood relief in 2017

26. Enhanced environmental protections

27. Court of last resort (ECJ)

28. REACH regulations & EU Chemicals Agency, improving human, animal & environmental safety around chemicals

29. Safer medicines thanks to pan-EU testing regime.

30. Security cooperation and sharing of crime/terrorist databases

31. Participation in the European arrest warrant programme

32. EURATOM for medical isotopes

33. Support for rural areas ignored by successive UK Governments

34. Better food labelling.

35. EU funding for the British film industry, theatre and music

36. European Capital of Culture programme, which has boosted cities such as Glasgow and Liverpool

37. Service providers (e.g. freelance translators) can offer their services to clients all over the EU

38. No UK VAT or duty on imports from the EU (great for online shopping

39. EU citizenship (it's a real thing with real benefits - look it up!)

40. Cross-border collaboration on taxes, to hold huge firms like Amaz

on and Facebook to account more than we otherwise could.

41. Venture capital funding and startup loans

42. Legal protection for minority languages such as Welsh

43. Mutual recognition of academic qualifications

44. Legal protection for foods of geographic origin, e.g. Melton Mowbray pork pies

45. No credit and debit card surcharges.

46. EU structural funding (eg. £2 billion to Liverpool) with matched private funding requirement

47. Supporting and encouraging democracy in post-communist countries

48. A bigger, stronger presence on the world stage

49. Use of EU queues at ports and airports.

50. Products made or grown in the UK can be sold in 31 countries without type approval, customs duties, phytosanitary certificates etc.

51. Protection from GM food and chlorinated chicken

52. Objective 1 funding for deprived areas and regions.

53. Financial services passport, enabling firms in the City to service the whole EU market

54. Strong intellectual property protections

55. University education in other EU countries at "home student" rates (many still have free universities).

56. Mutual recognition of professional qualifications

57. Consular protection from any EU embassy outside the EU

58. Baseline of worker protections (which we can also improve on)

59. Keep open the EU market to which we send more than half the fish we catch.

60. Enhanced medical research prospects

61. A friend to cosy up to against the might of the USA and China

62. Seasonal workforce to pick our fruit and vegetables

63. A vital source of medicines (we import 37 million packs a month from the EU).

64. Minimum 2 year guarantee on all products

65. Protection against unfair treatment in the workplace thanks to the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights 66. Minimum of 4 weeks paid leave (introduced by EU in 1993, taken up by the UK in 1998 and later extended to 28 days in 2009).

67. More influence on environmental measures that transcend borders (we get to help shape the policies that 28 countries must follow)

68. A say in the running of the EU (if we were outside, the rest of the EU would carry on but we would have zero influence over its policies).

69. Cleaner air thanks to the EU Air Quality Directive

70. Legally enforced 14 day cooling off period on timeshare agreements

71. Some of the highest toy safety standards in the world 7

72. Protection of 500 bird species under legislation dating back to 1979, and amended in 2009.

73. Safer food

74. Clean beaches

75. Pan-EU institutions (e.g. food, chemicals etc.) save money by doing away for the need for equivalent domestic institutions

 

 

Those are all intangible benefits that are worth nothing in comparison to taking back control.  We can stick two fingers up to the EU, and go our own way, unless we want to trade with them.

5 hours ago, bannork said:

You leave a club, you lose the privileges.

Some countries pay a lot more and others relatively nothing and have done for a long time. So as usual your statements are a load of rollocks.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/

 

We are leaving the protectionist racquet called the EU. I suggest you deal with it or go and live in one of those countries you try so tediously to defend.  As a Brit Basher and Anglophile you would fit in easily.

2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Some countries pay a lot more and others relatively nothing and have done for a long time. So as usual your statements are a load of rollocks.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/

 

We are leaving the protectionist racquet called the EU. I suggest you deal with it or go and live in one of those countries you try so tediously to defend.  As a Brit Basher and Anglophile you would fit in easily.

Sorry LG this is not a grammar issue, but an issue of meaning.

Being an Anglophile means that you love England/the English.

You can't do that and be a Brit basher at the same time.

5 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

Those are all intangible benefits that are worth nothing in comparison to taking back control.  We can stick two fingers up to the EU, and go our own way, unless we want to trade with them.

Oh dear, the "Taking back control" nonsense you were fed certainly hit its mark. Were you scared when they told you that someone/thing else was controlling you, that's exactly what they wanted you to feel.

 

Bedtime reading -  lovely heading - Brexit has stuffed us say uk sausage chiefs.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-has-stuffed-us-say-uk-sausage-chiefs-p9w937qmh?fbclid=IwAR0NyNylSUn-87bdQ5yHUWX675Vv8jKIxvRRq5-iO2-rSFatvtei9clQxQ4

2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Some countries pay a lot more and others relatively nothing and have done for a long time. So as usual your statements are a load of rollocks.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/

 

We are leaving the protectionist racquet called the EU. I suggest you deal with it or go and live in one of those countries you try so tediously to defend.  As a Brit Basher and Anglophile you would fit in easily.

I'm a Brexit basher, not a Brit basher. As you rightly point out I"m an Anglophile who loves Old Blighty, I just hate to see the motherland shoot herself in both feet with the Brexit madness.

God bless Tommy Cooper, Martin Peters, Geoff Hurst, and of course the lovely Vera Lynn.

46 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Sorry LG this is not a grammar issue, but an issue of meaning.

Being an Anglophile means that you love England/the English.

You can't do that and be a Brit basher at the same time.

 

 

might be that laughing glavy is a woman,

women are known to be able to do multitasking . . . .

 

24 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

might be that laughing glavy is a woman,

women are known to be able to do multitasking . . . .

 

They are also known for starting rumours and liking a bit of gossip.

3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Some countries pay a lot more and others relatively nothing and have done for a long time. So as usual your statements are a load of rollocks.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/

 

We are leaving the protectionist racquet called the EU. I suggest you deal with it or go and live in one of those countries you try so tediously to defend.  As a Brit Basher and Anglophile you would fit in easily.

I'm sorry LG, I didn't realise that the EU was involved in protectionist racquets. Do such racquets offer the tennis or squash player protection from hard hitting balls from the opponent?

 

11 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

We already exposed the 'cost of Brexit' versus EU contributions as a fallacy earlier in this thread.  Let's not go over old ground. 

 

- And as for jobs, as others have pointed out UK employment is at a record high. 

- Also job vacancies returned to growth for the first time in 11 months, rising by 7,000 to 810,000 for the quarter to January 2020.

- Also announced this week: Average weekly wages in the UK have reached their highest levels since before the financial crisis. Weekly pay reached £512 in the three months to December, which - adjusting for inflation - is the highest since March 2008.

 

Finally, this story went a bit under the radar this week: 

- US company Blackhall Studios and the University of Reading want to build the new £150m studios at Thames Valley Science Park.

Plans to develop the "largest purpose-built film studio" in the UK have been put forward in Reading. Blackhall said the move would "bring major Hollywood film productions to the UK" and create up to 3,000 jobs.

Ryan Millsap, chairman of Blackhall said the plans were made after the company's US-based clients Disney, Universal and Sony were "all asking us to expand into the UK to meet their desire to create productions here".

"We hope that the site at Thames Valley Science Park will be the start of a series of investments in the UK which will see investment in jobs, training and the creative arts across a range of disciplines," he added.

 

Sorry to burst your bubble of doom and gloom. 

 

 

Did we resolve the issue of the cost of Brexit?

Oh only if you believe Johnson and ignore experts.

 

If unemployment is so low why did Patel say there are 8 million economically inactive people in the UK? Explain who these people are.

Wages are back where they were 12 years ago? Thats a damned disgrace never mind a cause for celebration. 12 years of austerity caused by the Conservatives. Suppose someone had to pay for the rich screwing up but it wasn't going to be the rich was it?

 

So someone is planning to build a film studio in London. As it stands they will currently be asking how much government grants are we going to get if we build it here rather than say Paris. Even if it does get built its just another benefit to London and the southeast. Does nothing for the rest of the UK.

4 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Some countries pay a lot more and others relatively nothing and have done for a long time. So as usual your statements are a load of rollocks.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/

 

We are leaving the protectionist racquet called the EU. I suggest you deal with it or go and live in one of those countries you try so tediously to defend.  As a Brit Basher and Anglophile you would fit in easily.

Think some of the pages in your copy of Brexit for dummies are stuck together.

A Brit basher AND an anglophile? 

????