UK plans to introduce border controls on EU goods after post-Brexit transition

[nauseus]

16 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Its all going wrong isn't it?

It wasn't supposed to be like this.

The EU was supposed to role over and give the Brexiteers everything they wanted. They need us more than we need them. Easiest trade deal in history. Just like Norway. 350 million a week to the NHS. Sunny uplands filled with unicorns and rainbows. No worse off than if we had remained.

Hows that for Brexiteer bingo?

Reality is a cruel mistress. Brexit means Brexit.

Still you guys knew what you were voting for right so this is all OK. 

A bit tetchy tonight?

[englishoak]

27 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

And the bridge from Scotland to Ireland that even the best structural engineers on the planet are saying is a non starter?

Johnson has a poor record when it comes to bridge building so how much money is he going to spaff all over this?

The UK will not find cheap loans after its credit rating gets downgraded.

Again.

Couldnt care less about the bridge story, dont think for a moment its going to happen either imo its all spin and bluster. 

 

You place way too much importance on rating agencies. UK  will continue to have no problem getting low interest loans, too bigger GDP m8 not to.. unlike Scotland. 

 

Stay mad, watch and learn. 

Edited February 13, 2020 by englishoak

[Jare]

23 hours ago, david555 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/12/uk-alignment-on-eu-standards-price-to-pay-for-trade-deal-say-meps

 

UK alignment on EU standards price to pay for trade deal, say MEPs

Vote comes as bloc wields its powers to force change in UK domestic law during transition

The European parliament has called on Michel Barnier to keep Britain permanently tied to its employment, environment and competition laws as the price for maintaining free trade with the EU.

In a resolution adopted by 543 votes to 39, with 69 abstentions, MEPs said there needed to be “dynamic alignment” with EU standards across a range of issues ????

 

 

(This seems to be more than a majority from 80 votes) ????

So basically the EU parliament has voted for thousands of Germans and other EU citizens to lose their jobs at Christmas, when exports from Germany to the UK suddenly crash. That'll be popular... a victory for the EU... yay \o/

[Jare]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

A bit tetchy tonight?

Must be those SNP sackcloth and ashes panties the Remainiacs wear... reminds them how right they are...

[Jare]

6 hours ago, samran said:

Ah, Boris, like his fanboys here, can’t stand differing opinions, which in the cabinet system is essential if you want the best out of your ministers and government.

Oh, are those opinions? I thought you were just copypasting Guardian articles, because you don't read other newspapers with other points of view... well, why would you...?! Meanwhile on the red planet... someone's upset at Keir Starmer's male privilege... it must be so hard to get through the day there... but I guess "so hard" isn't really... never mind... Emily Thornberry... dream about her victory speech... can't wait.

[Jare]

8 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

I think I speak for the entire group when I say we are all grateful for your rapier insights into British politics. 

There's a group? Is it playgroup? Or haven't you graduated yet?

[Jare]

7 hours ago, david555 said:

(So that makes it now then more official as before Brexit.... ???? )

 

Daniel Boffey in Brussels

Thu 13 Feb 2020 10.19 GMT

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/13/eu-to-put-cayman-islands-on-tax-haven-blacklist

In wake of Brexit, EU to put Cayman Islands on tax haven blacklist

Decision on British overseas territory comes less than two weeks after UK left bloc

 

The Cayman Islands, a British overseas territory, is to be put on an EU blacklist of tax havens, less than two weeks after the UK’s withdrawal from the bloc.

 

In a clear indication of the country’s loss of influence on the EU’s decision-making, the bloc’s 27 finance ministers are expected to sign off on the decision next week.

 

The EU’s blacklist is an attempt to clamp down on the estimated £506bn lost to aggressive tax avoidance every year but member states are not “screened” in the process of drawing up the blacklist.

 

more...

If only the EU had any money to put into an offshore account... sadly the UK is taking it all away... ouch!

[Nigel Garvie]

13 minutes ago, Jare said:

Must be those SNP sackcloth and ashes panties the Remainiacs wear... reminds them how right they are...

Could you make an effort to move out of the teenage private schoolboy ya boo sucks mentality, It gets tedious having to read comments on this level.

4 minutes ago, Jare said:

If only the EU had any money to put into an offshore account... sadly the UK is taking it all away... ouch!

Get real, It is individuals not countries who put their money into offshore accounts. These rich individuals (Like David Cameron's dad for one) are much loved by the Tories who would defend their right to deprive the Treasury of billions of pounds in tax revenues, to the last.

 

Are you really naive enough to imagine, that the tax avoiding owners of the Tory gutter press put their vile organs into overdrive, to promote Brexit, because they personally cared about Sovereignty, Immigrants, or Fishing quotas? People that rich are not that stupid.

 

The fundamental purpose of Brexit is to protect mega rich tax avoiders, the rest for them is just window dressing. 

[El Matador]

I am very jealous of you guys.

You will be free to eat those excellent English tomatoes as an independent country.

Edited February 13, 2020 by El Matador

[CG1 Blue]

4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Its all going wrong isn't it?

It wasn't supposed to be like this.

The EU was supposed to role over and give the Brexiteers everything they wanted. They need us more than we need them. Easiest trade deal in history. Just like Norway. 350 million a week to the NHS. Sunny uplands filled with unicorns and rainbows. No worse off than if we had remained.

Hows that for Brexiteer bingo?

Reality is a cruel mistress. Brexit means Brexit.

Still you guys knew what you were voting for right so this is all OK. 

What has gone wrong exactly? Have trade negotiations finished already? I must have missed that news. Or are you soothsaying again? 

Anyway, you smashed it in the remainer (rejoiner) cliché bingo! 

[Laughing Gravy]

10 hours ago, david555 said:

It seems something is cracking in number 10 …..and about  Andrea Leadsom ….well I think there is somewhere a short man with a smile on his face now … LOL

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/feb/13/politics-live-cabinet-reshuffle-set-to-get-underway-live-news?page=with:block-5e4537f58f0811db2faf6ea7#block-5e4537f58f0811db2faf6ea7

 

 

Yes Boris the genious.

[Laughing Gravy]

And from my post in 212 the replies confirm exactly what I said. So predictable.

[samran]

4 hours ago, Jare said:

Oh, are those opinions? I thought you were just copypasting Guardian articles, because you don't read other newspapers with other points of view... well, why would you...?! Meanwhile on the red planet... someone's upset at Keir Starmer's male privilege... it must be so hard to get through the day there... but I guess "so hard" isn't really... never mind... Emily Thornberry... dream about her victory speech... can't wait.

What drugs are you on? They look like they are good ones.

 

No, I’m not copy and pasting anything, unlike some blokes here who seem to get all their lines from brexit Facebook sites. 
 

Anyway, entirely predictable that you blokes are cheering on the destruction of the cabinet system of government and replacing it with a rubber stamp mini politburo.

 

The same blokes who love knocking us for hating the Brits, where are you now? You should be defending a core part of your long standing system of government.

[Rookiescot]

26 minutes ago, samran said:

What drugs are you on? They look like they are good ones.

 

No, I’m not copy and pasting anything, unlike some blokes here who seem to get all their lines from brexit Facebook sites. 
 

Anyway, entirely predictable that you blokes are cheering on the destruction of the cabinet system of government and replacing it with a rubber stamp mini politburo.

 

The same blokes who love knocking us for hating the Brits, where are you now? You should be defending a core part of your long standing system of government.

Not just the cabinet. Johnson is going after the judiciary and parliament itself.

Soon glorious leader Kim Jong Johnson will declare himself El Presidentie for Life. No more general elections. He did say "once in a generation" before the last election and we know how that phrase has to be respected as law within the Brexiteer community. 

[david555]

3 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

What has gone wrong exactly? Have trade negotiations finished already? I must have missed that news. Or are you soothsaying again? 

Anyway, you smashed it in the remainer (rejoiner) cliché bingo! 

" Have trade negotiations finished already? "

 

First week of March that can become clear....

Much chance for that ......however U.K. "rented"a 11 month's E.U transition......useless ...in my opinion...

!

 

 

Edited February 14, 2020 by david555

[JonnyF]

7 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Its all going wrong isn't it?

It wasn't supposed to be like this.

The EU was supposed to role over and give the Brexiteers everything they wanted. They need us more than we need them. Easiest trade deal in history. Just like Norway. 350 million a week to the NHS. Sunny uplands filled with unicorns and rainbows. No worse off than if we had remained.

Hows that for Brexiteer bingo?

Reality is a cruel mistress. Brexit means Brexit.

Still you guys knew what you were voting for right so this is all OK. 

You're posts get more and more amusing. The salt literally drips onto my screen like grease from a cheap Kebab ????.

 

Now, back to the reshuffle. Solid leadership from Boris, get rid of those Europhile SPADS that reeked of Hammond and take control of Number 11 before we move to an Australian style Brexit deal in December. Top tekkers.

 

Next swamp to be drained? Whitehall. Must be a lot of squeaky bums in Remainer circles. Plenty more chickens coming home to roost. 

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

You're posts get more and more amusing. The salt literally drips onto my screen like grease from a cheap Kebab ????.

 

Now, back to the reshuffle. Solid leadership from Boris, get rid of those Europhile SPADS that reeked of Hammond and take control of Number 11 before we move to an Australian style Brexit deal in December. Top tekkers.

 

Next swamp to be drained? Whitehall. Must be a lot of squeaky bums in Remainer circles. Plenty more chickens coming home to roost. 

Australian deal.

ROFL.

[samran]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Solid leadership from Boris, get rid of those Europhile SPADS that reeked of Hammond and take control of Number 11 before we move to an Australian style Brexit deal in December. Top tekkers.

Ah, the rewriting of history continues. This is 1984-esque. 
 

So Javid who campaigned for brexit is no longer pure enough. Simply being accused of being a europhile is the new tar to throw. 
 

Most likely is that while he was a brexiter he wasn’t going to be a lackey. Much better for Boris to have obedient useful idiots around him. Hubris writ large. 
 

This will certainly mean I better go out and buy more popcorn and beers. The sh!tshow has a few more bonus episodes coming. Looking forward to the revenge episodes! 
 

As for your Australia references. Good strategy. Keep mentioning it wherever you can. At some point some drone will believe you were in on the joke from the beginning...

Edited February 14, 2020 by samran

[samran]

19 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Australian deal.

ROFL.

Didn’t he tell you, he knew it was a joke from the start???

[Rookiescot]

Just now, samran said:

Didn’t he tell you, he knew it was a joke from the start???

Yes I saw that.

But its OK. They knew they were voting for an Australian deal when they voted.

[samran]

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Yes I saw that.

But its OK. They knew they were voting for an Australian deal when they voted.

I missed that painted bus! 

[sanemax]

3 minutes ago, samran said:

I missed that painted bus! 

you have spent three years non stop talking about the bus .

the bus seems to be your answer to everything 

[david555]

33 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Australian deal.

ROFL.

like the saying : " a kangaroo court " equal now to a " kangaroo deal" ….. brand-new slogan the brexiboys …. can grab it !...my gift to them ????

[samran]

9 minutes ago, sanemax said:

you have spent three years non stop talking about the bus .

the bus seems to be your answer to everything 

Get it right. Bendy bananas and blue passports mark the majority my contributions when reminding people on the only tangible results of brexit so far.
 

Apart from a couple of references this thread, I don’t usually deal in fiction written on the side of busses. 

Edited February 14, 2020 by samran

[JonnyF]

18 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Yes I saw that.

But its OK. They knew they were voting for an Australian deal when they voted.

Yep, I've always been fine with WTO if it means full divergence from the EU's "level playing field" (ball and chain), getting our waters back, ending free movement, no ECJ etc. I'd have rather done it last month without the withdrawal agreement and divorce bill but I've always been willing to compromise so December is acceptable to me.

 

Plenty of evidence/posts on the forum to show that Brexiteers were fully aware that an Australian deal = No Deal. No need to be salty because you were so embarrassingly slow on the uptake ????.

 

I'm not sure why you're so keen for the UK to fail since Scotland is a part of the UK and won't be going anywhere, despite Sturgeon's nationalist rhetoric.

[Rookiescot]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Yep, I've always been fine with WTO if it means full divergence from the EU's "level playing field" (ball and chain), getting our waters back, ending free movement, no ECJ etc. I'd have rather done it last month without the withdrawal agreement and divorce bill but I've always been willing to compromise so December is acceptable to me.

 

Plenty of evidence/posts on the forum to show that Brexiteers were fully aware that an Australian deal = No Deal. No need to be salty because you were so embarrassingly slow on the uptake ????.

 

I'm not sure why you're so keen for the UK to fail since Scotland is a part of the UK and won't be going anywhere, despite Sturgeon's nationalist rhetoric.

So WTO means tariffs.

Who do you think pays for the tariffs? Its the customer. Brace yourself for large price increases.

"Our waters" are going to be horse traded so the City of London can carry on trading in European markets. I hope you are the one who is prepared to tell those fishermen they have been sold out by a Conservative government. Again.

Ending free movement. This is the important part for you isn't it. Tell me. Are you going to go out and pick crops and fruit for less than the minimum wage? 

Which rulings by the ECJ have personally impacted on your life in a detrimental way? 

 

It was you who was duped by the phrase Australian deal. Everyone on here saw that. Oh how we laughed. ????

 

I'm not keen on the UK failing. I didn't vote to bring harm on the UK. I voted remain.

 

Scotland is leaving the UK. Now you need to come to terms with that. After all when you voted for Brexit you knew the costs didn't you. 

[nauseus]

7 hours ago, El Matador said:

I am very jealous of you guys.

You will be free to eat those excellent English tomatoes as an independent country.

Damn! You're right. I'd forgotten about them. 

[nauseus]

10 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

So WTO means tariffs.

Who do you think pays for the tariffs? Its the customer. Brace yourself for large price increases.

"Our waters" are going to be horse traded so the City of London can carry on trading in European markets. I hope you are the one who is prepared to tell those fishermen they have been sold out by a Conservative government. Again.

Ending free movement. This is the important part for you isn't it. Tell me. Are you going to go out and pick crops and fruit for less than the minimum wage? 

Which rulings by the ECJ have personally impacted on your life in a detrimental way? 

 

It was you who was duped by the phrase Australian deal. Everyone on here saw that. Oh how we laughed. ????

 

I'm not keen on the UK failing. I didn't vote to bring harm on the UK. I voted remain.

 

Scotland is leaving the UK. Now you need to come to terms with that. After all when you voted for Brexit you knew the costs didn't you. 

Project Fear box set. Way ahead of yourself. Nobody knows yet what will be agreed or what the costs will be (on either side). 

[Laughing Gravy]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

you have spent three years non stop talking about the bus .

the bus seems to be your answer to everything 

Yes the only answer with a repetitive tedious, constant whining. I have noticed that's the ploy from the media and the Brit bashers on here, after trying their best to belittle Boris and failed miserably.  How many majority of seats did he win in the last election when many on here were saying he was getting his P45.

 

Fortunately he is smarter than many on here and he is given credit, so now they try and attack his adviser.

 

Its is holiday this week and then the cat next week.

 

What a stroke of genius from Boris with the cabinet reshuffle and the sacking of Smith (justifiable) and Javid (Genius).

 

I wonder what rubbish we will get next form our residence Brit haters.

 

Probably more bus and ditch talk.

[JonnyF]

15 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

So WTO means tariffs.

Who do you think pays for the tariffs? Its the customer. Brace yourself for large price increases.

"Our waters" are going to be horse traded so the City of London can carry on trading in European markets. I hope you are the one who is prepared to tell those fishermen they have been sold out by a Conservative government. Again.

Ending free movement. This is the important part for you isn't it. Tell me. Are you going to go out and pick crops and fruit for less than the minimum wage? 

Which rulings by the ECJ have personally impacted on your life in a detrimental way? 

 

It was you who was duped by the phrase Australian deal. Everyone on here saw that. Oh how we laughed. ????

 

I'm not keen on the UK failing. I didn't vote to bring harm on the UK. I voted remain.

 

Scotland is leaving the UK. Now you need to come to terms with that. After all when you voted for Brexit you knew the costs didn't you. 

We'll be sovereign so we can...

 

1. Negotiate our own WTO schedule.

2. Do our own trade deals, there are plenty of cheaper places to buy from than the EU and we'll decide the tariffs on imports under these trade deals.

3. Run our own immigration. If we need fruit pickers, we'll allow fruit pickers to come in. Alternatively UK workers can do the jobs, further reducing unemployment instead of the capitalists dream of importing cheap labour.

4. Decide if/when Scotland can leave (if they wish to, which the majority don't as the Indyref showed).

5. Make our own laws for the benefit of the UK, not some other EU country.

 

You wish to continue to hide behind the EU's apron strings. I don't.