British man launches Go Fund Me page to help with legal bills after fatal traffic accident in Thailand

[RichardColeman]

'Mr Everall now faces uncertainty over what will happen at his next court appearance on Wednesday, but fears he will be jailed if he cannot come up with the money.'

 

Be interesting to be jailed over not being charged with anything

[judokrab]

That guy is full of <deleted>.

[sawadee1947]

I hope nobody will send any penny. 

Just too stupid to provide a good insurance. 

But then becoming a beggar and ask for money. 

Deport him!) ????

[AlexRich]

4 hours ago, Grumpy John said:

It's a screwed up system!   I understand if it's a worker the Thai family rely on for their income but a 77 year old is unlikely to be holding done a 9 to 5 job.  Part time maybe.  

It might be argued that an economic burden has been lifted from the family?

[Sunmaster]

5 minutes ago, kjm1485 said:

MY FRIEND WORKED WITH THIS MAN. This story is not what happened at ALL. We all work for the same agency, and this has become a bit of scandal amongst us all. If you really read his version of the story, there are a lot of things that don't add up. If he had a chance to see everything that the family was doing, how far the elderly man was, why didn't he STOP? 

 

The version that was witnessed by the community, and several other teachers: This man is loose cannon that repeatedly threatened other teachers with violence for the most random reasons. He was definitely speeding when he hit the man, and had kept HONKING prior to hitting him. (If you have time to honk, you definitely have time to hit your brakes.) He hit the man so hard, the man rolled over three times. 

 

There were supposed to be two investigations: the police's investigation, and the family's private investigation. The police one had already finished, and they told him so, but they said to STAY in the country for the other investigation. Everall was ordered to pay 1 million baht for the family-- which he never took responsibility for.

 

On top of all that, he also skipped out on his rent, his utility bills, and damage fees for throwing cigarette butts on top of cars and leaving burn marks. He was only fired by our agency after he was caught punching some thai university kid in the face during an argument. This guy is INSANE and is definitely playing the victim here.

This makes a lot more sense than any of the other reports. Thanks for sharing.

[dallen52]

8 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Insurance??? 

Insurance is peanuts here.

As dictated by the government. 

Especially when a bike is involved. 

Thai people know this, and if it's a thai  -v- thai situation  its accepted. 

But when a farang is involved, they all of a sudden see it like winning the lottery...

[Vacuum]

9 hours ago, CelticBhoy said:

A better photo with the article may garner some sympathy, methinks.

 

I don't know, but I like the bird. What is it, some kind of parrot?

[riverhigh]

23 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

This makes a lot more sense than any of the other reports. Thanks for sharing.

Agree. Thanks for sharing. 

[alzack]

they always want compensation even  if no fault

[dpeti73]

I agree with its not mentioned everything if he totally clear why he have to pay. They hold him till the court hearing so have some kind of charge. If i not guilty no way i pay any compensation! The other part insurance have to pay my motorbike damage if any!

[ray richards]

I don't know what visa the guy has got but I got full cover in England to cover any accident claims for myself & third party, full hospital cover. I also declared that I have got bladder cancer & heart problems. I'm male 74 yrs old & got all this cover for non imm o 90 days for £261 which a younger man without my health declaration would be much cheaper. People should do the insurance premium before setting out to Thailand. I think it was very cheap for a man of my age.

[dunroaming]

8 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

And I bet there are more people "behind the scene" that want their share of the 200 000b cake....

After accidents like this the police negotiate the compensation with a generous cut for themselves.  That is the normal procedure in these cases.  Obviously the amount of compensation is based on how much they think they can milk from mark.

 

 

[from the home of CC]

58 minutes ago, tonray said:

A lot of broken old sods end up here in Thailand. A final escape from a lfe of failures. They don't suddenly become responsible and wealthy on the plane ride over.

and we all get painted by the same brush by association, won't break my heart if the screening to get in the country gets tougher...

[saakura]

4 hours ago, Bassosa said:

He's an English teacher but by the looks of the GoFundMe-page he's not a native speaker/writer. How does that work?

A Shropshire plasterer becomes an english teacher in a small dusty town in Northeast Thailand. There must be thousands of such shady charaters here which is why the clampdown on all kinds of visas.

[flexomike]

9 hours ago, Moonlover said:

So what's the compulsory insurance for then if it's not for compensating 3rd parties?

That only pays for injuries 

[dunroaming]

8 minutes ago, saakura said:

A Shropshire plasterer becomes an english teacher in a small dusty town in Northeast Thailand. There must be thousands of such shady charaters here which is why the clampdown on all kinds of visas.

The article says he had been volunteering in Thailand for some time.  I had a short spell volunteering to teach English at an orphanage for hill tribe kids about twenty years ago.  There were a few of us ex-pats from Chiang Mai doing it.  I was never called a "shady character" for doing it though.  Maybe I needed to be from Shropshire to get that title.

 

Amazing how many people jump to conclusions based on virtually nothing other than pre-conceived ideas.

 

 

[cracker1]

What charges did he face when he was in the court with the Judge ?

[Jaxxper]

I thought the compulsory insurance covered loss of a third party. Was the bike not taxed and insured ?

seems odd unless the family are asking for significantly more than the insurance covers.

[P100]

He was not at fault but police ordered to pay compensation?

 

Thailand pure. Who is the police to arrest him because civil claims?

 

To be learned: Do not rent a bike without insurance even.if 99.99% have none. You always can buy a private one for no money! Especially a long stayer for 4 months. 

 

Ask any insurance broker (and not the motor bike shop). Even if u come only for some days, leave and return later that year. Just take out a contract for a year, it's so cheap...

 

[gamini]

10 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

I can see this type of accident happening here.

And of course he needs to pay.

Good luck to him sure hope his fellow Brits come thru with sufficient donations.

Any forienger  that drives in Thailand should have third party insurance including the obligatory one. If they don't they are really stupid. I dont have any sympathgy for him.

[Stevemercer]

Its pretty usual in Thailand to have to pay compensation to the victim whether or not you were at fault. If you were not at fault, the compensation is usually one third to half of what it would be if you were at fault. The same seems to apply to Thai people and farang people alike.

 

My wife's son hit and killed a young man on a motorbike while driving his car. The man was drunk and he (the son) could not avoid him. The police agreed he was not at fault, but negotiated a 200,000 Baht pay out to the deceased. He has to report to court every 3 months until the payment is completed.

[otaku00]

If not found guilty he should just pay for the cremation and 20.000 Baht is enough. Perhaps one newspaper will publish the name of the family and their reasons so that other Thais know?

 

Stevemercer, where is the legal basis for those 200.000? Did it ever appear to you they were fooled? Why let police negotiate when there is a court?

[holy cow cm]

8 minutes ago, Stevemercer said:

Its pretty usual in Thailand to have to pay compensation to the victim whether or not you were at fault. If you were not at fault, the compensation is usually one third to half of what it would be if you were at fault. The same seems to apply to Thai people and farang people alike.

 

My wife's son hit and killed a young man on a motorbike while driving his car. The man was drunk and he (the son) could not avoid him. The police agreed he was not at fault, but negotiated a 200,000 Baht pay out to the deceased. He has to report to court every 3 months until the payment is completed.

No justice in that.

[holy cow cm]

Well now maybe they will tell us expats we need to have at least 500k in the bank for death compensation if it happens. 

[Moonlover]

52 minutes ago, flexomike said:

10 hours ago, Moonlover said:

So what's the compulsory insurance for then if it's not for compensating 3rd parties?

 

52 minutes ago, flexomike said:

That only pays for injuries 

Not according to this broker and I've read it in others as well.

 

https://www.roojai.com/en/car-insurance/compulsory/

[BestB]

3 hours ago, Just Weird said:

There was an arrest warrant that had been issued for him.

In which case further proves he was not all cleared by police as he is claiming 

[CharlieH]

Reported post with derogatory Thai remark removed.

[mauGR1]

1 minute ago, BestB said:

In which case further proves he was not all cleared by police as he is claiming 

To give the guy the benefit of doubt, is it possible that some officer's opinion is different from some other officer's opinion ?

[BestB]

4 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

To give the guy the benefit of doubt, is it possible that some officer's opinion is different from some other officer's opinion ?

Not so easy to end up on immigration black list just because of officers opinion. And as someone with knowledge of the guy already posted. He was told to stay in the country but tried to do the runner 

[wwest5829]

10 hours ago, BobbyL said:

They love blood money here. Even if he is in the clear they still won't let up it seems. 

Ah, for the good ole days when we used the Wergelt.