Society doubts government’s legitimacy: newspaper columnist

[webfact]

Society doubts government’s legitimacy: newspaper columnist

By The Nation

 

The Cabinet

 

Even though the censure debate is over and the six ministers have maintained their positions, the government is heading downhill as society doubts the government’s legitimacy, which is more important than the vote in the House of Representatives, Thansettakij newspaper columnist “Erawan” said. 

 

The government has to realise this fact and tackle the “legitimacy” issue very carefully "or they will head faster to the bottom because a failed economic administration that has affected Thai people has not been solved”. Moreover, the coronavirus outbreak has worsened the situation, the columnist said.

 

The ministers have to handle the crisis of fear more professionally and with an integrated approach, allowing ministries to collaborate, while Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha must have men of brain to deal with the situation, not men with power, or the government will not survive it.

 

Erawan also said the government cannot neglect political rallies by students and it has to face the truth that people are not pleased with their government and find solutions to resolve the conflict. 

 

“And if they still deeply believe those students are just red shirt activists and Future Forward Party supporters, they might have to rethink it because they might get lost in the political conflict of the kind seen many years ago,” Erawan added.

 

This downhill situation is reflected in rumours of a Cabinet reshuffle while the overall status is not stable, showing that some parties in the coalition government have just tried to recruit more MPs from the dissolved Future Forward Party in order to bargain for more for ministerial posts.

 

These actions demonstrate a vicious cycle of the political landscape, in which politicians are often shortsighted, Erawan said.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30383266

 

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[Thaiwrath]

6 minutes ago, webfact said:

while Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha must have men of brain to deal with the situation,

That could be a major problem, or, more likely, an impossibility !

[smedly]

13 minutes ago, webfact said:

Even though the censure debate is over and the six ministers have maintained their positions, the government is heading downhill as society doubts the government’s legitimacy, which is more important than the vote in the House of Representatives, Thansettakij newspaper columnist “Erawan” said. 

I hope he's ready for the "fake news" military squad taking him away for conditioning for saying such things

 

it was previously called "attitude adjustment"

 

meanwhile 6 million voters in Thailand have lost the MP's they voted for

 

is it time for a new election

 

something needs to happen fast before it all boils over  

[Oziex1]

This government is what it is,  writing about them having to rethink the situation is all very nice but the truth is the current situation exists through a complete and utter inability to think. They don't need to, the script is written by others. 

[PatOngo]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

the government is heading downhill as society doubts the government’s legitimacy

Damn! They were quick to pick up on that! ????

[daveAustin]

Quote

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha must have men of brain to deal with the situation

Lol quality translation. Hang on... there are no brains here! 

Hoping some risings-up occur in not too distant future and the good folk do some squeezing. Beloved Thailand is being flatlined.

[colinneil]

Ohh look at us, standing looking like we are holding in a wet f++t.????

Notice the chubby one is missing, maybe he couldnt hold his in.????

[faraday]

Who's the white haired auld bloke at the back?

[faraday]

..... it's Steven!

 

[baboon]

1 hour ago, PatOngo said:

Damn! They were quick to pick up on that! ????

Indeed. The article does seem to make society look a tad thick given what has been going on since 2014...

[CelticBhoy]

11 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Ohh look at us, standing looking like we are holding in a wet f++t.????

Notice the chubby one is missing, maybe he couldnt hold his in.????

 

He's taking the photo  ....... with a borrowed camera, I may add.  ????

[Lacessit]

When you have a Minister who has served time in another country for drug smuggling, it's a bit hard to maintain a pretense of legitimacy.

[gk10002000]

some officials will be very concerned, but I am sure that many top level officials have made a lot of money since the coup.  Is there any accountancy or transparency or proper investigation of their finances?  That is a rhetorical question.

[z42]

I wasn't here in the Thaksin days, and people go on about how much of a free lunch it was for the Government in his day.

This lot currently are the worst i've seen in all my days from.any country. Can anyone who knows take a stroll down memory lane and say if Thaksin's were even a patch on this lot?

[SteveK]

2 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

I am sure that many top level officials have made a lot of money since the coup. 

I'm pretty sure all the guys in the photo must be billionaires by now. Otherwise, what's the point in being in charge?

[rkidlad]

5 minutes ago, z42 said:

I wasn't here in the Thaksin days, and people go on about how much of a free lunch it was for the Government in his day.

This lot currently are the worst i've seen in all my days from.any country. Can anyone who knows take a stroll down memory lane and say if Thaksin's were even a patch on this lot?

I’ve been in and out of Thailand since 2005. I couldn’t tell you exactly how good or bad it was before as I was much younger and didn’t pay attention to these things. But I can tell you it has got much worse since 2014. Maybe people 10-15 years ago just didn’t talk about it too much. Now, it seems that everyone is talking about how bad things are getting. That most definitely didn’t happen pre 2010, IMO. 

[legend49]

41 minutes ago, z42 said:

I wasn't here in the Thaksin days, and people go on about how much of a free lunch it was for the Government in his day.

This lot currently are the worst i've seen in all my days from.any country. Can anyone who knows take a stroll down memory lane and say if Thaksin's were even a patch on this lot?

At least in Thaksin's days the economy worked.

[mfd101]

2 hours ago, z42 said:

I wasn't here in the Thaksin days, and people go on about how much of a free lunch it was for the Government in his day.

This lot currently are the worst i've seen in all my days from.any country. Can anyone who knows take a stroll down memory lane and say if Thaksin's were even a patch on this lot?

I wasn't around then either but it's fairly clear that, as with almost all governments everywhere, some good things were done, and some bad. Thaksin himself clearly had & has a brain however.

[Orton Rd]

Fake photo, deputy piggy is nowhere to be seen ????

[lemonjelly]

I see they’re wearing black armbands; mourning the loss of any credibility perhaps?

[cornishcarlos]

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

Ohh look at us, standing looking like we are holding in a wet f++t.????

Notice the chubby one is missing, maybe he couldnt hold his in.????

 

With the black armbands, maybe the chubby one has defarted for good ???

Edited March 4, 2020 by cornishcarlos

[DPKANKAN]

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

Ohh look at us, standing looking like we are holding in a wet f++t.????

Notice the chubby one is missing, maybe he couldnt hold his in.????

Naah. Apparently he lost his watches so his alarm did not go off!!!????????????????????????????????

[JAG]

3 hours ago, z42 said:

I wasn't here in the Thaksin days, and people go on about how much of a free lunch it was for the Government in his day.

This lot currently are the worst i've seen in all my days from.any country. Can anyone who knows take a stroll down memory lane and say if Thaksin's were even a patch on this lot?

Venturing an opinion on that question would simply draw a barrage from those here who disliked him enough to approve of the three times overthrowing of his various administrations.

 

Perhaps you should ask the Thais? After all they elected him (in various guises) four times on the trot; and it didn't take three months to count the votes...

Edited March 4, 2020 by JAG

[EvetsKram]

8 hours ago, smedly said:

I hope he's ready for the "fake news" military squad taking him away for conditioning for saying such things

 

it was previously called "attitude adjustment"

 

meanwhile 6 million voters in Thailand have lost the MP's they voted for

 

is it time for a new election

 

something needs to happen fast before it all boils over  

When is that next coup planned for? There are a few wanting the job ATM... Fool & idiot

[Krataiboy]

while Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha must have men of brain . . .

 

Or how about a few women, as from the photo it appears there's only one in the present Cabinet?

 

Having said that, in these liberated times it's not always easy to identify an individual's gender. . .

 

 

[Enoon]

5 hours ago, z42 said:

I wasn't here in the Thaksin days, and people go on about how much of a free lunch it was for the Government in his day.

This lot currently are the worst i've seen in all my days from.any country. Can anyone who knows take a stroll down memory lane and say if Thaksin's were even a patch on this lot?

 

Nothing to choose between them.

 

It's not the government, it's the "system" that begs for change

 

That's what the students want, that's what 6 million voted for.

 

PTP (with it's mentor T lurking in the background) didn't/doesn't want to change it, they just want to exploit it, same as the current mob.

 

FFP hated by both sides of the "old coin" for wanting to change it.

 

FFPs greatest contribution has been to let the dissent/change genie out of the bottle.

 

(That only became feasible after the inception of the "New Era").

 

It's not going back in.

 

 

 

[CraigInBangkok]

5 hours ago, z42 said:

I wasn't here in the Thaksin days, and people go on about how much of a free lunch it was for the Government in his day.

This lot currently are the worst i've seen in all my days from.any country. Can anyone who knows take a stroll down memory lane and say if Thaksin's were even a patch on this lot?

I think he was just as bad but did it in a more sly/clever way by helping out the poor and got a lot of support. In the end he just got too greedy.

[hotchilli]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha must have men of brain to deal with the situation, not men with power,

But he only feels safe surrounded by men of power... brains doesn't enter into the equation!

[Eindhoven]

1 hour ago, CraigInBangkok said:

I think he was just as bad but did it in a more sly/clever way by helping out the poor and got a lot of support. In the end he just got too greedy.

 

I would imagine it wasn't about greed, but about gaining too much influence and blocking certain factions from feeding at the trough.

 

They aren't interested in the economy. They are interested in keeping the status quo. The old criminals and Ma Fia they claimed to have removed, are in the government now.

 

So many criminal enterprises run by the Police and Army. It has been that way for decades. I remember walking down lower Sukhumvit in the 90's with someone pointing out to me the establishments run by the Police and the ones run by the Army....

 

Not everyone wants to do business with assiduous criminals. So their options are limited.

 

They've filled their boots, but they are still not satisfied. Embarrassing themselves pretending to be Minister of this and that. Power crazy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Scot123]

8 hours ago, z42 said:

I wasn't here in the Thaksin days, and people go on about how much of a free lunch it was for the Government in his day.

This lot currently are the worst i've seen in all my days from.any country. Can anyone who knows take a stroll down memory lane and say if Thaksin's were even a patch on this lot?

YES I was. Never liked him however his figures and popularity speaks volumes. Same as with this D the immigration rules changed as did attitudes towards foreigners. I left the country as did many of my friends. I was back in Thailand for this D and yet again attitudes towards foreigners changed and immigration became aggressive changing rules as they went. And the countries figures scream failure. People ignore facts like there has never been a successful military government in the world. The military are the most currupt organisation in Thailand where its generals amass billions on modest saleries and nothing is said and allowing such men to run the country is madness. As for the hatred they feel towards foreigners I believe it comes from when they serve along side them. I was in the army and served next to them in South Korea men who were supposed to be their cream and wow what a joke they were. Sorry if the truth hurts but facts are facts and yet there are many on here who believe it is other foreigners behaviour that causes this. So sad.