2 hours ago, Monomial said:

 

What the DNC or the Democrats want is wholly irrelevant. The only people that really matter in this election are the voters in the swing states, and for the same reasons they didn't want Hillary 4 years ago, they don't want Biden today. Absolutely nothing has changed to make the voters more receptive to the status quo. If anything, the Trump era has made them more angry and radicalized. This is just more self mutilation by the Democratic party, clinging to the old ways and refusing to see the new reality on the ground.

 

It's time everyone settle in for another 4 years of Trump. Maybe the Democrats will learn their lesson in 2024.

Oh please. This isn't the DNC. It's the voters. The democratic primary voters have made it abundantly clear that people are seeking stability and sanity not another <deleted> shoot "populist" like 45 but from the left this time. They took that. It's a disaster! Your theory is obviously wrong. It if was right it would be Bernie creaming Biden and not the other way around. 

2 hours ago, Monomial said:

 

What the DNC or the Democrats want is wholly irrelevant. The only people that really matter in this election are the voters in the swing states, and for the same reasons they didn't want Hillary 4 years ago, they don't want Biden today. Absolutely nothing has changed to make the voters more receptive to the status quo. If anything, the Trump era has made them more angry and radicalized. This is just more self mutilation by the Democratic party, clinging to the old ways and refusing to see the new reality on the ground.

 

It's time everyone settle in for another 4 years of Trump. Maybe the Democrats will learn their lesson in 2024.

Settle down for more 45? NEVER!

5 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Agree.  Staying on at this point is not helping the cause and may harm it.  Bernie, the fat lady is bellowing her lungs out!

He needs to show that his ego isn't as important as making sure that we get rid of Trump. He's made his point and everyone's heard it, just not interested for the most part, according to the vote. It's all about the lesser of two evils, once again, and the choice is stark, IMHO.

6 hours ago, opalred said:

they want  to put a lot of protection  around Biden /as trump will try every thing to stop him

They will have to put a lot of protection around little girls, this Biden guy appears to be rather too fond of touching them

1 minute ago, Orton Rd said:

They will have to put a lot of protection around little girls, this Biden guy appears to be rather too fond of touching them

But not on the pussy.

1 minute ago, Orton Rd said:

They will have to put a lot of protection around little girls, this Biden guy appears to be rather too fond of touching them

Perhaps you're thinking about the guy in the white house who has been credibly accused on perving on naked underage girls during his time running beauty pageants. There is nothing you can throw at Biden that touches the dirt on 45. 

It's occurred to me that even though Bernie had pledged to go to the convention no matter what, the national crisis around Covid-19 may change things. For obvious reasons --

 

He can't hold rallies anymore.

He had great rallies and that was a big part of his movement.

The mood of the nation has changed to be focused on the crisis and a situation that is becoming like another great depression.

He knows he won't be nominated.

He knows that 45 must go.

Given these changes I can imagine some kind of agreement between Biden and Bernie for him to quit fairly soon and for there to be boatloads of RESPECT (well deserved) shown to Bernie and his supporters at the convention in unity show to end all unity shows.

3 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

The 2020 lineup:

 

Boundless energy, optimism, solid track record, kept promises

 

VS

 

Dementia, Establishment Corruption, Thin-skinned Belligerence

Ok, I understand that "Dementia, Establishment Corruption, Thin-skinned Belligerence" refers to Trump. 

 

I'm not sure what the first part of your post refers to.

45 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

I assure you there will be zero originality in whatever ensues....it will be a direct lift from

whatever CNN deems appropriate.

With Trump we've had whatever Faux News deems appropriate. 

 

I'd be delighted to have a President who reads instead of watches television.

7 hours ago, JTXR said:

He gave it a good run, and I admire his gumption (and even agree with some of his policy proposals), but Bernie needs to concede and bow out now.

I agree with a great many of Bernie Sanders' proposals.  My problem with him is his lack of accomplishment.

 

We are not voting for a dictator (unless we re-elect Trump), we are voting for a President with significant foreign policy power and the power to set, but not dictate, legislative agendas.  A person with great visibility but limited actual power (thank god for that!).

 

Bernie has a lousy track record of getting things done.  He won't deliver on any significant promises, in the unlikely event he is elected. 

 

Biden might get some things done.  My greatest fear is that Trump, with the assistance/guidance of Mitch McConnell, will destroy our system of constitutional government.

Edited March 18, 20206 yr by heybruce

3 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I'm not convinced that the DNC doesn't want Trump to win.

Are you familiar with the words of Will Rogers?

 

"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."

 

If you think the DNC is capable of some kind of conspiracy, plots within plots, and planning beyond the next election, you haven't been paying attention.

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Oh please. This isn't the DNC. It's the voters. The democratic primary voters have made it abundantly clear that people are seeking stability and sanity not another <deleted> shoot "populist" like 45 but from the left this time. They took that. It's a disaster! Your theory is obviously wrong. It if was right it would be Bernie creaming Biden and not the other way around. 

No.  I was one of the original litigants in the class action lawsuit against the DNC for rigging the 2016 primary. Their WHOLE DEFENSE was that they are not legally obligated to follow the voters. In a nutshell, they said they are a private organization and there were no laws against it.

 

The exit polls numbers aren't adding up. There is some buggery going on in this primary. My overseas primary vote was disqualified because "my signatures didn't match." I used the same digital copy of my signature I've been using for over ten years. Repeat: there is some buggery going on in this primary.

15 hours ago, heybruce said:

Are you familiar with the words of Will Rogers?

 

"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."

 

If you think the DNC is capable of some kind of conspiracy, plots within plots, and planning beyond the next election, you haven't been paying attention.

Oh, they're conspiring all right. They're just too stupid not to get caught. Case in point, Donna Brazile who gave Hillary a copy of the debate questions in advance.

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

We are not voting for a dictator (unless we re-elect Trump), we are voting for a President with significant foreign policy power and the power to set, but not dictate, legislative agendas.  A person with great visibility but limited actual power (thank god for that!).

There's some truth to your statement about "limited actual power," but Trump has managed to take it to new extremes by appointing lackeys to prominent positions.  This includes the DOJ, EPA, State, ED, Intel, Interior, and a number of other important positions that basically run the government.  And we can't forget that Trump has managed to steer the US government to his properties to the tune of millions...not to mention foreign dignitaries who frequent Trump businesses in order to gain political favors.  Lastly, I hope it's revealed someday what Trump has been doing with MBS (Saudi Arabia) and Putin, among others, that has bastardized US foreign policy. 

4 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I'm not convinced that the DNC doesn't want Trump to win.

 

I am. It's not Trump per se but rather the gravy train.

 

I am sure that trump is toast. His cult will be soon a thing of the past. November 3 can't get here too enough.

52 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

They will have to put a lot of protection around little girls, this Biden guy appears to be rather too fond of touching them

With that mentality, they'd need to protect all of the women on the planet from Trump. ????

13 minutes ago, J Town said:

No.  I was one of the original litigants in the class action lawsuit against the DNC for rigging the 2016 primary. Their WHOLE DEFENSE was that they are not legally obligated to follow the voters. In a nutshell, they said they are a private organization and there were no laws against it.

 

The exit polls numbers aren't adding up. There is some buggery going on in this primary. My overseas primary vote was disqualified because "my signatures didn't match." I used the same digital copy of my signature I've been using for over ten years. Repeat: there is some buggery going on in this primary.

Rhetoric like that feeds right into 45s and Putins hands. 

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Rhetoric like that feeds right into 45s and Putins hands. 

Now you call facts rhetoric? You DO know what you sound like, yes?

9 minutes ago, J Town said:

Now you call facts rhetoric? You DO know what you sound like, yes?

Facts trump own words FACTS

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/don-lemon-donald-trump-coronavirus-gaslighting-070209493.html

4 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

The 2020 lineup:

 

Boundless energy, optimism, solid track record, kept promises

 

VS

 

Dementia, Establishment Corruption, Thin-skinned Belligerence

I wouldn’t say Biden has boundless energy but I do agree, he’s fairly energetic. 

40 minutes ago, GalaxyMan said:

With that mentality, they'd need to protect all of the women on the planet from Trump. ????

Woman are legal, little girls are not and slobbering all over them, sniffing their hair and trying to kiss them in public is stomach churning. It's quite clear what Biden is.

Edited March 18, 20206 yr by Orton Rd

43 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I am sure that trump is toast. His cult will be soon a thing of the past. November 3 can't get here too enough.

If you think Biden can beat Trump I think you will be in for a shock, just like last time

18 minutes ago, cycolista said:

I wouldn’t say Biden has boundless energy but I do agree, he’s fairly energetic. 

Biden’s upright posture is certainly better than Trump who seem likely to fall forward like the leaning tower of Pisa. 

Biden is senile and corrupt. He will ensure an easy win for Trump. 

13 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Facts trump own words FACTS

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/don-lemon-donald-trump-coronavirus-gaslighting-070209493.html

We were discussing my experiences with both the 2016 and this year's primary elections.

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

If you think Biden can beat Trump I think you will be in for a shock, just like last time

Imagine that you holding on to the past 2016 election results. Move along and wake up

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

Woman are legal, little girls are not and slobbering all over them, sniffing their hair and trying to kiss them in public is stomach churning. It's quite clear what Biden is.

Yes it is, he’s at the head of the Democrat candidate race, which is why you are spewing your vile and baseless accusations at him.

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

If you think Biden can beat Trump I think you will be in for a shock, just like last time

Trump obviously does, he got himself impeached trying to get a foreign Government to announce fictitious investigations to destroy Biden’s chance of becoming the Democrat candidate.

 

 

Let’s hope Mike Bloomberg keeps his word and uses his information empire to expose trumps slander machine for what it is