Chazar Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 31 minutes ago, EricTh said: Thailand is ranked number six in the world in terms of giving good health so don't question the number given by the ministry of health. Watch video below for the interview with Anutin. His English is quite good compared to a lot of other Thai ministers. Looks like hes talking total carp to me 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Saltire Posted March 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said: The selfish attitude indicated above I am sure is the same reason for the spread into Isaan. I reside in a small quiet village in Isaan that has recently had returnees from S. Korea who have immediately set about catching up with old friends for meals, parties etc. We have also seen an influx of them from Bangkok, Pattaya etc who behave in the same manner. Isaan people dont usually bother with a centre spoon at meal times and often eat off each others plates. Likewise the men will sit around and drink sharing the same one glass and a bottle or two of Lao Khao. A disaster waiting to happen. Yesterday there was a noisy procession in the streets with the usual dancers and loud music etc with not one mask to be seen. There was also the usual scene of small groups among the dancers all drinking from the same beer bottles not to mention the hugging and kissing. When I asked the wife what was going on and why are people gathering when we have been told not its best to isolate, her reply was ...."Oh its the annual moo barn festival and in Isaan we HAVE to have it, no matter what"!! When I compared it to Songkran, the racing at Buriram, bars closed everywhere etc etc, it made no difference. "No you dont understand, In Isaan we have to have it every year, its all been booked earlier!! Is it that Thai 'logic' thing again? Is it having the right amulet or the belief in reincarnation? It seems to be the same attitude that makes them overtake on a hill or a blind bend into oncoming traffic. Whatever it is they are slow to realise it just doesnt work. I see the exact same wreckless behavious here in my village near Sangkhla Buri, Kanchanaburi right now. All week so far 3 Nang Buat ordinations complete with drinking eating and processions, announcer saying welcome to all the people who just come back etc. Oblivious. 2 weddings. All of these over 2 or 3 days. My wife and I are now self isolating, made all the easier by telling her brother to move out of our house (polite version for TV) as he is one of the aforesaid event organisers and refused to join us by not taking bookings and staying home (I even offered to compensate him financially) but the donkey mentality is impossible to change. He just scoffed and refused to believe it was so serious saying 'it won't come here'. I hope he is right but it is getting closer every day. Went to our nearest supply town today, an hour away and less than 10% wearing masks. Surprisingly bought hand gel and masks with no problem - i had anticipated many 'mai mi, mot lau'. It's a joke when at the same time the poo yai is broadcasting most days now to stay home, wash hands etc, while also inviteing 200 people to his sons Nang Buat. THIS JUST IN: As I type there is a run on pork as they have been told no more local markets, products must be sold from the dwelling house of the market stall holders. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liss Camber Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 One member here said that the virus might have adjusted to the heat. It didn't but if social distancing is not properly done, when people are sharing glasses, using same spoons on a buffet during a wedding or ceremony, sitting closely together, are sleeping in the same bed or together with family members in one room a.s.o. the virus is not exposed long enough to heat, humidity and sun to die! At night there is no sunlight so the virus is living much longer on surfaces and in the air. SOCIAL DISTANCING IS KEY....FOR EVERYBODY! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted March 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said: Not everyone - maybe just 50 million worldwide. Many others with scarred lung tissue affecting blood oxygenation. Mainly old people maybe it will whipe out the Thai political dinosaurs. I am in good health 45.. I don't worry too much. If i get it so be it. I can understand the OAP's here being scared they are a risk group. I worry for my parents not for myself. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said: People get very worried about going in for elective surgery when the doctor says there is a 2% chance of complications... yet many on here think a 3% mortality rate is nothing -- or -- 20% hospitalization rate is insignificant in the big picture of things. When the cases are low (as they still are in most of the world - much lower than they can be) you can get support in the hospital and survive, if the healthcare system is overwhelmed -- in many countries you would just have to start picking which ones will have a chance of surviving while rejecting the rest. It is still extremely early in the pandemic (case wise). i dont think its insignificant but it looks like many people think the entire population is going to be wiped out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Liss Camber said: and in the air. really! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 This U.S. ACS email yesterday and its advice to U.S. govt. staff re not using BTS and MRT in BKK is interesting!!! Quote The U.S. Embassy in Bangkok has recommended that all U.S. government employees in Thailand avoid mass transportation (including the BTS and MRT rail systems in Bangkok, buses, and domestic airline flights) and entertainment venues, and use personal vehicles for transportation domestically. U.S. government employees are also encouraged to avoid gatherings of more than 10 people, and to practice social distancing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidpoo Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 My advise to all is get out of Thailand while you still can. I have no doubt this and afew other countries in the region will turn into a hotspot in the coming weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 hours ago, GeorgeCross said: Looking at the map it looks like to me its being taken back to issan. cases all over that region. rayong too What map??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted March 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Solidpoo said: My advise to all is get out of Thailand while you still can. I have no doubt this and afew other countries in the region will turn into a hotspot in the coming weeks. So funny look at the US adn Europe.. they have more cases then in Thailand. It does not matter where you are nowhere is safe. Perhaps on some secluded islands. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkkcanuck8 Posted March 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, robblok said: Mainly old people maybe it will whipe out the Thai political dinosaurs. I am in good health 45.. I don't worry too much. If i get it so be it. I can understand the OAP's here being scared they are a risk group. I worry for my parents not for myself. I don't worry too much for myself, but then I am very careful (and it is not that hard for me to social distance myself since I like working on my hobbies).... but half the cases that require hospitalization are under 50 years of age... and while most of them will not cease to be (while the healthcare system is not overwhelmed)... there will be significant number of those with scarred lung tissue... I sort of like my lungs the way they are. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Vincent Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Talk about a jump in statistics “. Don’t surprise me one little bit especially when the airports have been lacks a daisy in screening people. Today’s confirmed cases a real worry for those visiting the country,. lockdown would cause huge difficulties for many foreign guests who rely upon exchange booths ( banks closed last week ) for cashing money. The only real surprise is why the Thais have taken so long to act,. when other countries have basically closed down,. in a effort to try and contain the virus. Stay safe everybody by self isolating for periods of time we can stay healthy and beat this horrible virus ???????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacob29 Posted March 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said: Is it that Thai 'logic' thing again? Is it having the right amulet or the belief in reincarnation? It seems to be the same attitude that makes them overtake on a hill or a blind bend into oncoming traffic. Whatever it is they are slow to realise it just doesnt work. Did you tell her about the CV19 ghost, that has an affinity for people who have been exposed to CV19? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChouDoufu Posted March 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Look at the headline tag of "Chinese Tourists ready to Breakout", courtesy of the paper that can not be named....thats the credible info, so read a little and update yourself instead of telling us you believe its BS...... went on a bicycle ride this afternoon, mostly in the countryside, then a short ride thru the center of town. 95% of businesses downtown are open, about 75% in the suburbs. outlying areas are smaller, single family shops. chinese as individuals are poor planners, so likely many went bankrupt during the 6-week closure. others may have been visiting family in hubei and are stuck there for the duration. city bus services are running again. we have local 19-pax buses to other towns in the district, and larger 33-pax coaches throughout the province. the few long-distance buses we had are still not operating. that would require going through the main port facility and loading onto ferries to the mainland. no chinese i know of is/are considering travel outside of china now. what we are seeing is an influx of chinese trying to escape europe, returning to china and bringing the virus back with them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GeorgeCross Posted March 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Solidpoo said: My advise to all is get out of Thailand while you still can. I have no doubt this and afew other countries in the region will turn into a hotspot in the coming weeks. and go where? the whole world has got it in one stage or another 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, SunsetT said: What map??? https://covidtracker.5lab.co/en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 minus 2 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 this is a site for world wide c virus stats it s regularly updated and was given to me by a med'/ scientist that works for Roche https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR1-sX77RQsi5L8WuitD1Phb2_8_h1IPSQLkWaeUYST6ICTzdWRs96VtUDs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DogNo1 Posted March 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2020 For the fearless posters: I suggest that you watch Dr. Birx's reporting of the world-wide data during The White House's daily coronavirus report. The most recent news is that a sizable number of the people hospitalized with the virus are under 60. It is not reported that they had any compromising health conditions. It may have something to do with genetic makeup. Also, the virus appears to be especially deadly for children five or under. Also, two infected men die for every infected woman who dies. I believe that all age groups should take the virus seriously. You can't know how your body will handle the virus. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said: The selfish attitude indicated above I am sure is the same reason for the spread into Isaan. I reside in a small quiet village in Isaan that has recently had returnees from S. Korea who have immediately set about catching up with old friends for meals, parties etc. We have also seen an influx of them from Bangkok, Pattaya etc who behave in the same manner. Isaan people dont usually bother with a centre spoon at meal times and often eat off each others plates. Likewise the men will sit around and drink sharing the same one glass and a bottle or two of Lao Khao. A disaster waiting to happen. Yesterday there was a noisy procession in the streets with the usual dancers and loud music etc with not one mask to be seen. There was also the usual scene of small groups among the dancers all drinking from the same beer bottles not to mention the hugging and kissing. When I asked the wife what was going on and why are people gathering when we have been told not its best to isolate, her reply was ...."Oh its the annual moo barn festival and in Isaan we HAVE to have it, no matter what"!! When I compared it to Songkran, the racing at Buriram, bars closed everywhere etc etc, it made no difference. "No you dont understand, In Isaan we have to have it every year, its all been booked earlier!! Is it that Thai 'logic' thing again? Is it having the right amulet or the belief in reincarnation? It seems to be the same attitude that makes them overtake on a hill or a blind bend into oncoming traffic. Whatever it is they are slow to realise it just doesnt work. It’s the same in the village where I was into up til yesterday, business as usual. Loads of temple gigs, weddings as usual, large parties down the lake bbq,s etc etc. They either don’t know or don’t give a sh.te. Now back in Udon and bars are shut but shopping malls, coffee shops, restaurants all open and some selling beer as usual. Also pretty clear that loads have returned home. The keep fit/ rumba classes in the park were banging with fit 20 somethings not seen for many months! Edited March 22, 2020 by Kadilo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Really what #ickheads are running Thailand? Were they just lying about the numbers? Prior to Wuhan exploding five flights per day came from Wuhan to Thailand .....5 a day 1000 to 1500 from the epicenter. For me it was too big an ask to believe that only one in a million thais got infected (I guess the sanitary system is so effective here) and the only one died (guessing the hospital care is so fantastic that it scares the virus into killing itself). Prayut is like Trump.....all photo op; gibberish comments and no action at all.....and as for Anutin, one can only hope for karma. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steve73 Posted March 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2020 We're seeing all these reports of how many new cases each day, but this is somewhat meaningless unless they also report the number of tests that come back negative. Are these huge increases that are being reported due to increased infection, or simply tht there is MUCH more testing being done. I'm not trying to be an ostrich here, merely trying to better understand the risk.. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, Liss Camber said: One member here said that the virus might have adjusted to the heat. It didn't but if social distancing is not properly done, when people are sharing glasses, using same spoons on a buffet during a wedding or ceremony, sitting closely together, are sleeping in the same bed or together with family members in one room a.s.o. the virus is not exposed long enough to heat, humidity and sun to die! At night there is no sunlight so the virus is living much longer on surfaces and in the air. SOCIAL DISTANCING IS KEY....FOR EVERYBODY! Ah!v So that's why the missus wants her own bedroom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 5 hours ago, BobbyL said: Huge amount of daily jumps now. Similar to how it started in Europe a few weeks ago. Got a feeling they need to impose a proper lockdown (this government have done it before) to avoid Thailand becoming like Italy or Spain very soon. A lockdown is one thing... fully explaining what "self-isolation" actually means is another. Expect the numbers to rocket as carriers still continue to go out or mingle with family members at home! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 A post using content from an unapproved YouTube source has been removed as it was not from a recognized or approved news media source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2b2 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Mavideol said: never too late... as the old saying goes, """better late then never""" There is actually a tipping point, where the decision to finally act becomes irrelevant. People’s lives are at stake. For those who succumb to Covid 19 (and their families) while the government fiddles, “better late than never” will provide little comfort. It seems the leaders were far quicker to act decisively when the protests in Bangkok were quickly turned into a coup, but now they seem to be sitting on their hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Booming business is coming for private hospitals, like Bangkok Hospital, or I'm wrong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Is it possible to get death data for Thailand due to all causes? I'm interested to see if Feb. 2020 compares to Feb. 2019 and, so on. My belief is that the one death due to C-19 is an understatement and that if we were to see death data for all causes, we might see if the numbers are actually increased. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Can someone have a stab at what a "lockdown" of city such as Bangkok would mean. When we had the curfew with junta that was pretty mild. I recall flying in from Saigon to DMX late and getting taxi to His Hin. There were road blocks and all you needed to show was passport and airline ticket for time you landed. Does a lockdown come with a warning. Just now a state in Oz has ordered lockdown. No travel in/out. I live bkk currently on Koh Samed. Could easily have been Phuket etc. So what happens? Any ideas appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tayaout Posted March 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Can someone have a stab at what a "lockdown" of city such as Bangkok would mean. When we had the curfew with junta that was pretty mild. I recall flying in from Saigon to DMX late and getting taxi to His Hin. There were road blocks and all you needed to show was passport and airline ticket for time you landed. Does a lockdown come with a warning. Just now a state in Oz has ordered lockdown. No travel in/out. I live bkk currently on Koh Samed. Could easily have been Phuket etc. So what happens? Any ideas appreciated. Nobody know. What I can tell you is that Italy ignored the Chinese counselors who told them that a soft lockdown would not work. Today they switched to panic mode and implemented a total lockdown on non essential stores and services. The same scenario is likely to happen in Thailand. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 5 hours ago, 248900_1469958220 said: Is the warmer weather slowing its spread? New research seems to point to this. Might have slowed down the initial spread. However now it's gone beyond the tipping point and it won't matter if it's 200 degrees outside. It will be spread because the density of the carriers is high enough. Hence, social distancing to keep the local density down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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