silver sea Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 “... the 'hipster beard' and 'designer stubble' dramatically reduce the effectiveness of surgical grade face masks because they stop them from sealing against the skin which allows airborne respiratory droplets to pass through.” “Thick, textured styles including full beards and mutton chops, which are long sideburns that stretch along the lower jawline to the chin, reduce the effectiveness of breathing apparatus and should be removed before using any kind of mask.“ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8154275/Coronavirus-Queensland-virologist-reveals-shaving-beard-protect-against-COVID-19.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sometimewoodworker Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 17 hours ago, silver sea said: the 'hipster beard' and 'designer stubble' dramatically reduce the effectiveness of surgical grade face masks because they stop them from sealing against the skin which allows airborne respiratory droplets to pass through.” “Thick, textured styles including full beards and mutton chops, which are long sideburns that stretch along the lower jawline to the chin, reduce the effectiveness of breathing apparatus and should be removed before using any kind of mask.“ Virtually no masks that are in common us do anything much to protect the wearer from becoming infected, day to day. They do have a roll in protecting others if you are infected. They are just to appear to be doing something. 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grumbleweed Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 Face mask may not work with a beard or moustache in most cases... would be nearer to the truth 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I wondered about this. I was at Tesco yesterday and saw a farang dude with a thick beard wearing a mask. Didn't seem very practical. A beard in this heat and with the COVID....one may want to reconsider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stouricks Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 Does this apply to the Mrs as well please? 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Assurancetourix Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 Just now, stouricks said: Does this apply to the Mrs as well please? Where does she have her mustache ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enzian Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 Actually I wear the mask as much for the pollution as the virus; the virus got me to wear the mask regularly for the pollution finally. And without testing none of us know if we have it already, and we certainly may ignore the early onset thinking that it is just something transitory. So masks still make sense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Do I need to shave it off then?The chicks dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 try this..cheap & effective 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stouricks Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said: Where does she have her mustache ? More to the point, where does she like MY moustache! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I’m guessing OP could never grow a beard so he’s hoping nobody can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 A troll post has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgMech Cowboy Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Anything that I read which comes from the Daily Mail, I suspect little truth. Did you know that most medical people wear mask in the hospital to prevent them from spreading their fluids, not to prevent fluids from others, except in cases where they must wear specially fitted mask. Specially fitted mask like those which are used to prevent the 2.5 micron pollution. So, yes, if you have a beard, it useless to wear a n-95 mask. A typical surgical mask, you're Okay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 56 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said: Virtually no masks that are in common us do anything much to protect the wearer from becoming infected, day to day. They do have a roll in protecting others if you are infected. They are just to appear to be doing something. Meanwhile in the real world... Coronavirus: Why some countries wear face masks and others don't https://www.bbc.com/news/world-52015486 "Yet in some parts of Asia everyone now wears a mask by default - it is seen as safer and more considerate. In mainland China, Hong Kong, Japan, Thailand and Taiwan, the broad assumption is that anyone could be a carrier of the virus, even healthy people. So in the spirit of solidarity, you need to protect others from yourself. Some of these governments are urging everyone to wear a mask, and in some parts of China you could even be arrested and punished for not wearing one." You won't be able to ride Thailand's SRT if you don't have one. It's mostly an Asian thing. We are in Asia. The WHO isn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simon43 Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 I'm tired of this hype about masks not being effective. Even if they reduce the risk by 1% of passing on this virus to another person, or having it passed onto you - then it's worth doing. Additionally, in this Asian region, where the wearing of face masks is very common, due to air pollution, as a Westerner you might just avoid a 'kicking' (verbal or physical), for refusing to adopt the local practice. I hope this health statement about beards will encourage some/many of the foreigners to go clean-shaven. Here in Luang Prabang, I guess maybe 95% of the foreigners sport a beard, from ZZ Top style to Dali style, from 18 years old to 80 years old. I've asked many local Lao people what their opinion is of these bearded foreigners, and the response was unaminous: 'Too lazy to shave, ugly, dirty!!' 5 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, simon43 said: I'm tired of this hype about masks not being effective. Even if they reduce the risk by 1% of passing on this virus to another person, or having it passed onto you - then it's worth doing. Additionally, in this Asian region, where the wearing of face masks is very common, due to air pollution, as a Westerner you might just avoid a 'kicking' (verbal or physical), for refusing to adopt the local practice. I hope this health statement about beards will encourage some/many of the foreigners to go clean-shaven. Here in Luang Prabang, I guess maybe 95% of the foreigners sport a beard, from ZZ Top style to Dali style, from 18 years old to 80 years old. I've asked many local Lao people what their opinion is of these bearded foreigners, and the response was unaminous: 'Too lazy to shave, ugly, dirty!!' there is an argument around the 1% theory, however the WHO and most national public health authorities override this due to mask wearing giving people a false sense of security, resulting in people not focusing the other, more provenly effective, ways to prevent infection. for example, for weeks now i have seen locals wearing masks but not washing their hands for 20 seconds, or at all, - a way known to effectively prevent infection. another example of 'awareness' is seeing people riding a motorcycle wearing a mask but not a helmet... i have not worn a mask in bangkok, as many others here dont, i'm following WHO guidelines, and have never received any negative looks or comments from anyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, samsensam said: there is an argument around the 1% theory, however the WHO and most national public health authorities override this due to mask wearing giving people a false sense of security, resulting in people not focusing the other, more provenly effective, ways to prevent infection. for example, for weeks now i have seen locals wearing masks but not washing their hands for 20 seconds, or at all, - a way known to effectively prevent infection. another example of 'awareness' is seeing people riding a motorcycle wearing a mask but not a helmet... i have not worn a mask in bangkok, as many others here dont, i'm following WHO guidelines, and have never received any negative looks or comments from anyone. The locals never washed their hands much before ANY virus outbreaks so suggesting they suddenly consider masks as some sort of substitute to hand-washing is a bit of a stretch. They don't wash their hands and you don't wear a mask. Touché ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 59 minutes ago, Nyezhov said: Do I need to shave it off then?The chicks dig it. Most Thai girls do not like facial hair ( or body hair ) I had a mustach and sometime gotee from 17yo till I came over here at 52. Girls said they liked me but not mustach and said I would look younger without one. Shaved it off about a year later never worn one again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Too many poeple (even the clickbait pimps at the Dailymail) believe the face masks are to protect the wearer. Consider them shields to protect everyone else froM our own exhaled nasties and it’s easier for those who struggle with the concept of protecting others to understand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runamok27 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 If N95 masks were ineffective in protecting the wearer from infection the medical professionals on the front lines wouldn't be wearing them, they'd be wearing something else and you don't need to be a rocket scientist to know how to use an N95 mask properly. If you happen to be too stupid to figure it out there are thousands of youtube videos you can watch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 hours ago, tonray said: Royal Thai Police Order # 117-A: Translated to English "All foreigners must be clean shaven as of 1/4/2020. Removal of all facial, underarm, and groin area hair will be mandatory. All foreigners must purchase a special 'Barber Salon Prepaid card in an amount no less than $100,000 US. No foreigners must adopt any look that imitates Yul Brenner, so head hair is still allowed." no mention of ears or in wifes case back chest belly button.............feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chazar said: no mention of ears or in wifes case back chest belly button.............feet? Between the toes?.... bloody nightmare. I meant between the big toes, silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgard Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, sometimewoodworker said: Virtually no masks that are in common us do anything much to protect the wearer from becoming infected, day to day. They do have a roll in protecting others if you are infected. They are just to appear to be doing something. Quote ... wear a mask only if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019-nCoV Infection. This is the absolut stupidst comment ever!!! NOW every person you see must be a SUSPECTED INFECTED PERSON!!! How do you want to know someone ist infected? Rub a glasbowl? Ask Trump? Or what? The onliest acceptable solution is to wear a mask in public. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, samsensam said: i have not worn a mask in bangkok, as many others here dont, i'm following WHO guidelines, and have never received any negative looks or comments from anyone. But no one around you knows you are much smarter than everyone else and can read a WHO web page. Put the minds of all those dumb people at ease by wearing a mask. Do your part to ease the stress of the idiots. You don’t need to wear a mask, you are not a carrier, you’re smart enough to know that right? Unfortunately the advice that a mask is not protective for the wearer is ‘mostly’ correct, what many failed to grasp is that wearing a mask still reduces the spread of a virus by unwitting carriers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 3 hours ago, tonray said: Royal Thai Police Order # 117-A: Translated to English "All foreigners must be clean shaven as of 1/4/2020. Removal of all facial, underarm, and groin area hair will be mandatory. All foreigners must purchase a special 'Barber Salon Prepaid card in an amount no less than $100,000 US. No foreigners must adopt any look that imitates Yul Brenner, so head hair is still allowed." No foreigners must adopt any look that imitates Yul Brenner, so head hair is still allowed." Yul Brynner died in 1985 that is to say 35 years ago, now there are tens of millions of skulls like billiard balls, ???????? so the comparison does not rejuvenate you ????????????LOL (sorry????) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Who would of thought that not having a good seal reduces the efficiency of a mask. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianezy0 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kadilo said: Who would of thought that not having a good seal reduces the efficiency of a mask. Amazing. I didn’t even know you needed a seal. Do I need a porpoise to have a mask! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 The availability of masks are sparse especially quality hygienically manufactured masks with the makers name and description of use . Many poor quality medical type masks that are almost see through sold in local markets . Probably made in China , risky ? I was told yesterday by my lady , that even if you are driving your car and alone you must wear a mask and is now a penalty of 200 baht for failing to do so . Having a beard with a medical mask makes no difference and may even be a plus as the beard fills up the gaps . N95 masks should be the minimal standard as medical masks give zero protection from airborne particles while N95 give 95% protection from viruses and bacteria but only if the mask is a tight sealed fit to the face . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroomdave Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) Actually the WHO still does not recommend wearing any kind of mask unless you are ill, someone near you is ill, or you are a medical professional. Anybody hoarding these things should be donating them to the real heroes, the front-line workers in all this!!! This is the latest WHO video and take note: " NOT ONE MENTION OF WEARING A MASK AT ALL!!!!! " Edited March 27, 2020 by mushroomdave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroomdave Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) Adding to my previous post above, Taiwan is ahead of most countries and have been through this before. When Sars was happening I was in Taiwan, and face masks were mandatory in almost every place you went. Today, for Corona, I am here once again.....the difference???....there is no mandatory public places you "must" wear them at all!! They know the facts, and that it is not an airborne disease/virus, it lingers on surfaces. So masks are not needed. And you can check the #'s.....Taiwan is controlling it better than most......and when you consider the proximity to China, you would not expect that right??? I would look to them!! Health Experts Are Telling Healthy People Not to Wear Face Masks https://time.com/5794729/coronavirus-face-masks/?fbclid=IwAR3-iBU_nPT3wOJ8vzNqf0JJImETDTOyolpw4W07PDF-4IObtXHEvXAkmac Coronavirus: Face Masks Are Not An Effective Way To Protect Yourself https://www.missmalini.com/2020/03/17/coronavirus-face-masks-are-not-an-effective-way-to-protect-yourself/?fbclid=IwAR2UJ0pGvNtyy_LgeFHOk9OqlXADha5qrmLh_kTsoQCfqNFTTTmFejL8LCw Edited March 27, 2020 by mushroomdave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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