FOR YOUR SAFETY: Key statistics, advice from doctors on Covid-19

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FOR YOUR SAFETY: Key statistics, advice from doctors on Covid-19

By THE NATION

 

 

Prince Songkla University infectious disease doctor Prof Khachornsakdi Silpapojakul provides important Covid-19 statistics and advice, including the percentage of infection, the effectiveness of masks, and places and things which can attract the dreaded virus.

 

Here are his statistics:

 

* At least 4-14per cent of elders aged 60 and above who have contracted Covid-19 have died, while those aged 15 and younger have not got pneumonia from the virus.

 

* Covid-19 patients with mild or severe symptoms accounted for approximately 93 per cent and 7 per cent of cases, respectively.

 

* Most patients cough and have fever on the fifth day of infection, and start to suffocate on the tenth day. Only 4 per cent of patients who initially had nasal discharge were infected by the virus.

 

* Ten seconds of holding hands can lead to a 70% chance of infection.

 

* There is a 50 per cent possibility of infection if persons sit together for 10 hours, or when a person is a metre from another.

 

* However, a person will not be infected if he/she is separated from others at a distance of 4 to 5 metres, according to the World Health Organisation. WHO has advised a 2-metre distance.

 

* Initially, 41 per cent of Wuhan residents became infected with Covid-19 after visiting a hospital. “So please do not visit a hospital for unnecessary cases,” Khachornsakdi said.

 

* Patients wearing masks can reduce the spread of the virus by 90 per cent.

 

* Surgical masks and N95 masks can prevent Covid-19 from spreading by 56 per cent and 66 per cent respectively, and if the edges of these masks are taped, this can prevent the virus from spreading by 95 per cent and 99 per cent respectively. The doctor recommended using micropore tape because it hurts less than transpore or other tapes when in contact with the skin, while he preferred using a face shield during an operation.

 

Meanwhile, another doctor, Theeraphap Tanisaro, said that N95 masks can be reused if they are worn with a face shield and disinfected after use.

“If you are afraid that the virus may stick to the mask, you can wear another layer of surgical mask. We believe this method may be useful if there is a shortage of N95 masks,” he said.

 

Khachornsakdi warned that elevators could become a dangerous place if they were used to move Covid-19 patients. He advised using your foot, shoulder, or back, or calling to other people to open the doors from outside.

 

“If negative-pressure rooms are not sufficient, patients must be placed near windows and fans used to blow the interior air outside,” he advised.

“The patients’ ward must be separated into two zones – a contaminated zone holding patients and a coordination zone for paperwork.”

 

Khachornsakdi said it is not necessary to use alcohol to disinfect equipment – just using detergent, any cleaning solution or UV steriliser can act as effective disinfectants.

 

“The virus often exists on computers, keyboards, tables and door knobs,” he also warned.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/premium/30385081?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=internal_referral

 

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[rasmus5150]

With all these figures, I wonder if he used to work for TAT.

 

Now people will start hoarding for micro pore tape, and Korean summer hats with these giant sun visors.

 

[Chazar]

Ill stick with a  real countries rules where they have it  under control ....... Singapore

   
     We urge Singaporeans to remain calm and vigilant. Singaporeans can continue to play their part by being socially responsible, practising good personal hygiene habits and complying with safe distancing measures. (click here to view other MOH Health Advisories). 

     Members of the public should adopt the following precautions at all times:

 

• Avoid close contact with people who are unwell or showing symptoms of illness;
• Observe good personal hygiene;
• Practise frequent hand washing with soap (e.g. before handling food or eating, after going to toilet, or when hands are dirtied by respiratory secretions after coughing or sneezing);
• Wear a mask if you have respiratory symptoms such as a cough or runny nose;
• Cover your mouth with a tissue paper when coughing or sneezing, and dispose the soiled tissue paper in the rubbish bin immediately; and
• Seek medical attention promptly if you are feeling unwell.

[Chazar]

Just now, rasmus5150 said:

With all these figures, I wonder if he used to work for TAT.

Which is  why Ive listed Singapore as a  model and NOT  Thailand or  any of its medical staff where I can trust way  more the credentials of the person "informing" me, where you cant buy your way in, where  corruption is one of the LOWEST in the world.

[Chazar]

so how  many Thais  do you see doing this. its  more  like the okey cokey , up down up down food  in  up  down up  down food  in,

 

 

If you’re using any kind of mask, you need to first make sure it doesn’t become one more contamination zone. Wilson emphasized that you need to wash your hands before you put a mask on, before you take it off and after you take it off.

[Chazar]

40 minutes ago, webfact said:

 

Khachornsakdi said it is not necessary to use alcohol to disinfect equipment – just using detergent, any cleaning solution or UV steriliser can act as effective disinfectants

 just a bar  of soap...........simple

[RJRS1301]

Where does he come up with 4-14% motality figure?

 

[Chazar]

2 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Where does he come up with 4-14% motality figure?

 

same  place he  pulls  the  rabbit   out  of

[RJRS1301]

1 minute ago, Chazar said:

same  place he  pulls  the  rabbit   out  of

Ahhh thank you ????

 

[Chazar]

56 minutes ago, webfact said:

Patients wearing masks can reduce the spread of the virus by 90 per cent.

and non patients?

[RJRS1301]

Just now, Chazar said:

and non patients?

mere details, you are being pedantic

Want specifics??

[Chazar]

1 minute ago, RJRS1301 said:

mere details, you are being pedantic

Want specifics??

YES  because it sounds to me like hes  talking about already infected  people, also  sounds  like hes  talking about  operating room procedures

Edited March 30, 2020 by Chazar

[RJRS1301]

7 minutes ago, Chazar said:

YES  because it sounds to me like hes  talking about already infected  people, also  sounds  like hes  talking about  operating room procedures

I wonder sometimes if details are missed due to translation issue, especially when data being translated

 

[cyril sneer]

38 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Where does he come up with 4-14% motality figure?

 

Don’t question him

[Chazar]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/margiewarrell/2020/03/30/singapore-sets-gold-standard-against-covid-19-be-ready-be-decisive-be-bold/#3873865a7a22

[legend49]

3 hours ago, Chazar said:

Ill stick with a  real countries rules where they have it  under control ....... Singapore

   
     We urge Singaporeans to remain calm and vigilant. Singaporeans can continue to play their part by being socially responsible, practising good personal hygiene habits and complying with safe distancing measures. (click here to view other MOH Health Advisories). 

     Members of the public should adopt the following precautions at all times:

 

• Avoid close contact with people who are unwell or showing symptoms of illness;
• Observe good personal hygiene;
• Practise frequent hand washing with soap (e.g. before handling food or eating, after going to toilet, or when hands are dirtied by respiratory secretions after coughing or sneezing);
• Wear a mask if you have respiratory symptoms such as a cough or runny nose;
• Cover your mouth with a tissue paper when coughing or sneezing, and dispose the soiled tissue paper in the rubbish bin immediately; and
• Seek medical attention promptly if you are feeling unwell.

Agree with you. They keep burbling on old information. Its again targeted at the elderly being the victims. The European and Us  have found the highest ratio of positive cases are  men not women, those who are obese and  aged between 25 and 25.

[legend49]

2 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

I wonder sometimes if details are missed due to translation issue, especially when data being translated

 

No its to avoid the the truth and losing face.

[LomSak27]

2 hours ago, Chazar said:

Which is  why Ive listed Singapore as a  model and NOT  Thailand or

If you would sky down, and quit with the motor mouthing, he actually gives decent information, a step up for the thai press.

 

Unfortunately I must add, most all of us get information from multiple sources  FYI, so this is certainly not the last word or only word. Just another list. Got no problems with that.

 

Edited March 31, 2020 by LomSak27

[nobodysfriend]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

... any cleaning solution or UV steriliser can act as effective disinfectants.

BBC Future on UV light ...

 

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200327-can-you-kill-coronavirus-with-uv-light

 

 

" ...Sunlight contains three types of UV. First there is UVA, which makes up the vast majority of the ultraviolet radiation reaching the Earth’s surface. It’s capable of penetrating deep into the skin and is thought to be responsible for up to 80% of skin ageing, from wrinkles to age spots.

Next there’s UVB, which can damage the DNA in our skin, leading to sunburn and eventually skin cancer (recently scientists have discovered that UVA can also do this). Both are reasonably well known, and can be blocked out by most good sun creams.

 

There is also a third type: UVC. This relatively obscure part of the spectrum consists of a shorter, more energetic wavelength of light. It is particularly good at destroying genetic material – whether in humans or viral particles. Luckily, most of us are unlikely to have ever encountered any. That’s because it’s filtered out by ozone in the atmosphere long before it reaches our fragile skin.

Or that was the case, at least, until scientists discovered that they could harness UVC to kill microorganisms. Since the finding in 1878, artificially produced UVC has become a staple method of sterilisation – one used in hospitals, airplanes, offices, and factories every day. Crucially, it’s also fundamental to the process of sanitising drinking water; some parasites are resistant to chemical disinfectants such as chlorine, so it provides a failsafe.

Though there hasn’t been any research looking at how UVC affects Covid-19 specifically, studies have shown that it can be used against other coronaviruses, such as Sars. The radiation warps the structure of their genetic material and prevents the viral particles from making more copies of themselves.

As a result, a concentrated form of UVC is now on the front line in the fight against Covid-19. In China, whole buses are being lit up by the ghostly blue light each night, while squat, UVC-emitting robots have been cleaning floors in hospitals. Banks have even been using the light to disinfect their money. "

 

----> " Instead, other viruses might provide some clues. Take the flu. When scientists analysed hospital admission records in Brazil, they found that the number of flu cases tended to go up during the burning season, when there is more smoke in the atmosphere from forest fires and the UV in sunlight is diluted. "

Another study found that the longer flu particles were exposed to sunlight for – and the more concentrated it was – the less likely they were to remain infectious. Alas, the study looked at flu suspended in the air, rather than dried onto objects.  

No one knows how long it takes to deactivate Covid-19 with sunlight, or what strength is needed

All this means that using sunlight to disinfect surfaces is extremely problematic.

First of all, no one knows how long it takes to deactivate Covid-19 with sunlight, or what strength is needed. And even if they did, the amount of UV in sunlight varies depending on the time of day, the weather, the season, and where in the world you live – especially which latitude – so this wouldn’t be a reliable way to kill the virus. 

Finally, it goes without saying that disinfecting your skin with any kind of UV will lead to damage, and increase your risk of skin cancer.

And once the virus is inside your body, no amount of UV is going to have any impact on whether you’re infected. " <----

[tonysilly]

3 hours ago, Chazar said:

Which is  why Ive listed Singapore as a  model and NOT  Thailand or  any of its medical staff where I can trust way  more the credentials of the person "informing" me, where you cant buy your way in, where  corruption is one of the LOWEST in the world.

Singapore is a business country full of Chinese investors. CORRUPTED!!

[TheFishman1]

His figures are unbelievable I think I don’t believe it TAT

[Shocked]

A doctor in NY working with the infected people says. "Don't touch your face". Make sure you hands are cleaned with a disinfectant before you touch your face. He says that is the main reason for the spreading 

[BobfromNYC]

3 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Where does he come up with 4-14% motality figure?

 

WHO statistics

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

[manhood]

There is nothing what you could call evedence of what this doctor is talking about. Another article that should go straight to the bin. I only follow reliable countries organisations and pandemics specialists!

[transam]

Oooops

Edited March 31, 2020 by transam

[The Deerhunter]

4 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Where does he come up with 4-14% motality figure?

 

Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Iran, U.K, USA, Taiwan, and China so far.   Who all have vastly differing death rate statistics.   Sounds about right to me.  I think that looks  the spread of experience so far from many different countries.  No way to know which model Thailand will follow at this stage.   Nor even any firm, definitive reasons why the national death stats vary so widely between afflicted countries.

 

Average ages of populations, robustness of various national health systems AND accuracy in diagnosing Covid from flu or other pneumonia causes will be among the reasons for such wide and disparate results.   

Disraeli! "There are lies, damned lies and then there are statistics."

 

 

P.S.  Also note that "Patients" should wear masks.  That would be people already sick for any, ANY reason. I think????

Edited March 31, 2020 by The Deerhunter

[cornishcarlos]

1 hour ago, legend49 said:

The European and Us  have found the highest ratio of positive cases are  men not women, those who are obese and  aged between 25 and 25.

 

So 25yr olds only then ?? Pheeeeewwwww.... Dodged it

[Toany]

So you are sure to get Covid-19 by going to immigration according to this article

[dinsdale]

Everyone wears a mask when outside i.e. in the community. Wash hands often, best with soap for 20 sec, employ social distancing, try not to touch your nose (inside), your mouth and your eyes. A mask will help- remind you not to do this. 4 things that will help stop the spread and flatten the curve. I actually have safety glasses as this virus can be spread with droplets to the eyes although this is said to be less common. If everyone wears masks this would not be necessary. Bt60 insurance against someone with no mask and infected sneezing or coughing in my direction. Very small odds I know but Bt60 and Thais thinking I'm crazy, don't care. They thought I was crazy several wks back when I started wearing a mask.

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Khachornsakdi warned that elevators could become a dangerous place if they were used to move Covid-19 patients. He advised using your foot, shoulder, or back, or calling to other people to open the doors from outside.

 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

“The virus often exists on computers, keyboards, tables and door knobs,” he also warned.

No mention of atm possibly the most dangerous. I use the corner of another card to push the buttons or use the touch screen.

[PaDavid]

Following the comparisons being made with Singapore I did some research. Singapore has a population of 5.8 million, Thailand 80 million, so about 13 times greater. Yesterday Singapore had 35 new cases, Thailand 127. Singapore has reported 3 deaths, Thailand 7. Based on these statistics, it would appear that proportionally it’s safer in Thailand