Popular Post steven100 Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: Over the past four previous days, Thailand reported 54 new cases on Thursday, 50 on Friday, 45 on Saturday and 33 today (Sunday). Let's hope this is correct and the numbers keep dropping from here on in .... Also, I didn't bother to read the other posts from whingers who continue to bash and moan about everything Thailand ... so to those who posted, your wasting your time. lol 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WalkingOrders Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 39 minutes ago, Mavideol said: sure and China only had 3,339 deaths and the Pope is catholic The pope IS catholic. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, Yadon Toploy said: A PR firm has been hired and caught blatantly lying about the amounts of people being tested in Thailand. https://www.thaienquirer.com/11154/high-priced-public-strategy-firm-once-hired-by-paul-manafort-defends-thai-governments-coronavirus-response/ What is interesting is the Thai Government has denied hiring them, so who would spend the money? I wonder if the PR lackeys post here? I can think of a few posters who are on every thread with the same nonsense giving misdirection and unproven facts about the outbreak... The last two days the number of cases has increased but the total test numbers per Worldmeters hasn't changed at 71,860. I'd like to see how many tests are done a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WalkingOrders Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 And....is there ANYONE else out there...living NOW inside Thailand and feeling absolutely safe? I know I am. In Bangkok, and absolutely impressed with how Thailand as a society is handling this. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: Thailand announces another fall in new COVID-19 cases The whole world should learn from this Don't test then you won't have to report confirmed cases, just basically hide them - well done Thailand While Thailand lags behind the whole world in confirmed cases they also lag behind massively on actual testing - and no, a temperature check is not a test 10 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JCP108 Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: If the hospitals in Thailand were filling up with dead bodies it would be hard to hide. Would it be relatively easy to hide a 7.5% increase in hospital deaths in Thailand? If monthly deaths in Thailand have increased 10% in the last three months then that would mean an extra 15k have died. If 25% of people die at home rather than in hospitals (my assumption), then an extra 15k deaths would only represent a 7.5% increase in hospital business. Seems like that could be ignored/hidden. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidpoo Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 they done 71k test, thats almost the same as Singapore which has a population of 6milion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Solidpoo Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: If the hospitals in Thailand were filling up with dead bodies it would be hard to hide. I live in Bangkok and am extremely impressed and grateful to the Thai people, and yes, in this case the Thai Govt, for their handling of this. My hope is that Thailand recovers soon. No it wouldnt. It's not like they keep dead bodies for weeks.... what they gonna use it as furniture ? 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WalkingOrders Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, smedly said: The whole world should learn from this Don't test then you won't have to report confirmed cases, just basically hide them - well done Thailand While Thailand lags behind the whole world in confirmed cases they also lag behind massively on actual testing - and no, a temperature check is not a test If it was all a big lie it would show in death toll. Thailand has this under control. Well done and THANKYOU Thailand for keeping my family and I safe here in Bangkok. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post White Christmas13 Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, lamyai3 said: Got to be heat and humidity, as well as lack of testing. This is clear from the absence of runaway numbers in any Southeast Asian country. Natural immunity is less likely, otherwise there'd be an imbalance in Thai vs foreign deaths. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: If it was all a big lie it would show in death toll. Thailand has this under control. Well done and THANKYOU Thailand for keeping my family and I safe here in Bangkok. A very sensible and appreciative post. Not the usual moaners .... thanks. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, madmitch said: Are other countries looking at Thailand's figures and wondering how the figures are so low? If you think about it, Thailand should be an absolute hotbed for the dissemination of the virus: Flights from Wuhan continuing until Wuhan itself closed its airport; Flights from overseas, including China, still arriving until very recently; A population that is generally loathe to observe rules and regulations; Minimal social distancing; People living several to a household, not to forget the corrugated iron villages occupied by migrant workers; Public hospitals where you expect to come out with a disease, even if you enter in perfect health; An early lack of decisiveness from the Government and totally confusing messages from the health ministry (and a useless health minister who has all but disappeared from sight); Completely different provincial approaches whereby some still have shopping malls open and others are in full lockdown. I could probably go on. So why is this virus just not infecting many people here? Heat and humidity? Face masks? Natural immunity? Lack of testing and analysis of tests? Other southeast Asian countries are also not suffering like in Europe and America. It just seems odd. A diet high in phytochemicals? They must eat more raw vegetables (and weeds) than in any other country on the planet. Edited April 12, 2020 by tropo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tingnongnoi Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, White Christmas13 said: yes its pretty obvious you can still catch it, but look at all the countries with the same or similar weather to thailand and none of them have anywhere near the same amount as in US, Europe or countries with cooler weather 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, JCP108 said: Would it be relatively easy to hide a 7.5% increase in hospital deaths in Thailand? If monthly deaths in Thailand have increased 10% in the last three months then that would mean an extra 15k have died. If 25% of people die at home rather than in hospitals (my assumption), then an extra 15k deaths would only represent a 7.5% increase in hospital business. Seems like that could be ignored/hidden. This conspiracy theory would require that all Thai hospitals remain silent about a fudging of numbers....highly inlikely in Thailand, a highly politically charged invironment. I believe the Thai death toll. All countries numbers are skewed on virus totals but the death toll is hard to hide unless you are China. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcpattaya Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 News updates from Thailand...hmm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buffy Frobisher Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, bkk6060 said: People can be skeptical. But, the fact is the hospitals are not full of patients and they are not burning bodies all day. If they are hiding things, they must be pretty genious. Without naming them because I rely on them for treatment of a chronic health issue, one of Bangkok's biggest private hospitals has a negative-pressure wing full of Covid-19 patients, and the ICU full to the brim too. And they're apparently just overflow from the big government hospitals where it is even worse. Even my specialist said he was worried about my safety there because "Bangkok's full of it and you're safer not coming out". I tend not to believe the official numbers at all, and I dread to think how dire it is upcountry where people will be dying at home withot ever going near a regional hospital. 6 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffy Frobisher said: Without naming them because I rely on them for treatment of a chronic health issue, one of Bangkok's biggest private hospitals has a negative-pressure wing full of Covid-19 patients, and the ICU full to the brim too. And they're apparently just overflow from the big government hospitals where it is even worse. Even my specialist said he was worried about my safety there because "Bangkok's full of it and you're safer not coming out". I tend not to believe the official numbers at all, and I dread to think how dire it is upcountry where people will be dying at home withot ever going near a regional hospital. Name the hospital... no one is tracking you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zhounan Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 Hospitals are not overwhelmed, no medical staff are reporting on the social media like in other countries they've done, and it's not easy to hide corpses. So, probably the data reported is manipulated, but, the situation in Thailand is not so tragic as someone are thinking. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w94005m Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, nemo38 said: In the UK, they are predicting many times the COVID death count, which is padded with people who were already old and ill, in dead caused by the lockdown https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8207783/150-000-Brits-die-coronavirus-pandemic-domestic-violence-suicides.html Sweden is doing OK without destroying their economy. Of course, there was an instant backlash from countries where leaders have harmed the country in response to a flu. Most people don't yet understand the long term damage the lock down will cause world wide. They can't weigh the cost of the shutdown against lives lost to the Coronaflu. Societies have become overly emotional. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8208397/Sweden-sees-just-77-new-deaths-coronavirus.html "Response to a flu" - what an asinine comment. Several multitudes more deadly and infectious. Covering all areas of the population, unlike flu, which typically is mainly fatal for elderly and the young. Attitudes like that are why this will continue to be a huge problem, till successful drugs and a vaccine are available. Economies will recover, dead people won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhounan Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Enoon said: You're being told nothing. Any Thai who tries to tell you anything will have their legs broken. Do you and the others have absolutely no idea how it works here....and in Cambodia..... and Laos and Burma? How works here? I really don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, chrisinth said: If these numbers and the trend remains downward, are correct that is indeed great news. However, IMO, the greater threat will be as stated by the doctor above, will be when the travel restrictions are lifted. Although probably months ahead, the transition between the self isolation/curfew/travel restricted situation that we are currently in and back to normal, needs to be done correctly. This will take a lot of time. Will be at the very least this time next year and probably later before borders can reopen. Needs to be totally eradicated worldwide first and that vaccine is good to go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Solidpoo said: they done 71k test, thats almost the same as Singapore which has a population of 6milion When the number of tests completed jumped from 22k to 72k, zero new positive cases were added. So, a reasonable person would conclude that while those tests might have been performed, the results weren't counted. And, it was explained that those tests weren't counted because they were done outside the two official labs. So, if you say we did more tests but we won't tell you at all if any were positive, then you really can't count those as additional tests since the only purpose of a test is to determine if it's positive or not. That's the only reason to do a test. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marqus12 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Seasonal increase in mortality in winter, growth in April because winter was very mild. all normal. https://www.euromomo.eu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post graemeaylward Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, steven100 said: Yes, Khun Prayut acted quickly to minimize the spread of the virus and the numbers are starting to prove that theory. Acted quickly my backside! First case in Thailand January 13th 2020! He did nothing until he closed all schools and Universities etc. in mid-March followed by A State of Emergency on March 26th and airport closures from Apr 3rd. Everything else has been left up to Provincial Governors and local head honchos to decide. What I don't understand is that if these figures are correct, why are there new provisions for more cases being prepared every day. Do the Government, of which the PM is only a small part, envisage an explosion imminently? Similarly, I have to wonder why governments and medical experts from other countries aren't quoting Thailand as an example of getting things right! Edited April 12, 2020 by graemeaylward spelling error 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck1966 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Solidpoo said: they done 71k test, thats almost the same as Singapore which has a population of 6milion Below is showing 32,000 in hospital. Have they been tested? https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/file/situation/situation-no99-110463.pdf Edited April 12, 2020 by Canuck1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, smedly said: The whole world should learn from this Don't test then you won't have to report confirmed cases, just basically hide them - well done Thailand While Thailand lags behind the whole world in confirmed cases they also lag behind massively on actual testing - and no, a temperature check is not a test A temerature check is indeed a test, especially when they are being done everywhere. It is a test for temperature. Not for virus, but never the less it can identify a person with one symptom. Nothing to be scoffed at. While NYC was telling citizens you need no mask ride the trains...... Thailands trains had virtually all in masks and had temp checks and sanitizer for use prior to boarding. Am I impressed? Yep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, JCP108 said: When the number of tests completed jumped from 22k to 72k, zero new positive cases were added. So, a reasonable person would conclude that while those tests might have been performed, the results weren't counted. And, it was explained that those tests weren't counted because they were done outside the two official labs. So, if you say we did more tests but we won't tell you at all if any were positive, then you really can't count those as additional tests since the only purpose of a test is to determine if it's positive or not. That's the only reason to do a test. Antibodies present is also very useful to know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said: He has done nothing for 6 years , apart from fill his and his families pockets then why not look elsewhere, don't waste your time here, many other places to visit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fvw53 Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said: He has done nothing for 6 years , apart from fill his and his families pockets Can Khun Canuck provide some evidence? ...if not this a slander for which he should be sued in court 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPDEHSOI Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Canuck1966 said: He has done nothing for 6 years , apart from fill his and his families pockets Well, ya gotta admit...he did a good job of doing that!! Edited April 12, 2020 by UPDEHSOI 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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