Trump to announce 'guidelines' on reopening U.S. economy Thursday

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Trump to announce 'guidelines' on reopening U.S. economy Thursday

 

FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump addresses the daily coronavirus task force briefing in the Rose Garden at the White House in Washington, U.S., April 15, 2020. REUTERS/Leah Millis

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that data suggested the country had passed the peak on new coronavirus infections, and said he would announce "new guidelines" for reopening the economy at a news conference on Thursday.

 

"The battle continues but the data suggests that the nation has passed the peak on new cases," Trump told his daily White House news briefing.

 

"While we must remain vigilant, it is clear that our aggressive strategy is working and very strongly working, I might add," Trump said.

 

The U.S. coronavirus death toll - the highest in the world - surged past 30,000 on Wednesday after doubling in a week.

 

The coronavirus crisis has hammered the U.S. economy, overshadowing Trump's efforts to win re-election in November.

 

The Republican president has been pushing to reopen U.S. businesses and end orders that Americans stay home to fight the spread of the disease.

 

During the lockdown, millions of Americans have lost their jobs and thousands of businesses have been forced to close their doors.

 

Trump claimed on Monday had the authority to overrule state governors and order businesses across the country to reopen.

 

(Reporting by Steve Holland and Patricia Zengerle; Editing by Sandra Maler and Tom Brown)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-04-16

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[Tug]

We will see what the governors say I trust their judgment more than trump watched a bit of governor Cumo today what a difference between him and trump like the difference between night and day 1th grade or university educated we would do well imo to muzzle trump till this pandemic is over 

[Mama Noodle]

Its blatantly shocking how many people don't understand how federalism/republic of states works. One minute they have to quickly find their fainting couch because trump isn't shutting down the country fast enough, next minute they are clutching their pearls at 'authoritarian' Trump for creating guidelines for opening up the country, stating he doesn't have the authority. Its all rather pathetic.

 

Bottom line is that the Fed is a backup, and local states have the responsibility to maintain preparedness and request to the Fed if they need anything. Going after a president is a stupid deflection when not a single person who needed a ventilator or medication or a bed didnt get one. 

 

Further, there is no way everyone can stay in their homes until a vaccine comes around. We have to learn to live with the disease or face a massive depression, riots, protests, etc. Its impossible. 

This pandemic has shown that the partisans will be partisans no matter now many bodies stack up. 

[J Town]

Yeah, the governors are already getting together to form a group that will decide when and how they reopen, regardless of what Trump says. It's like they're uniting the states for the benefit of the people. Too bad there's not ALREADY a governing body to do that.

[Pedrogaz]

6 hours ago, Tug said:

We will see what the governors say I trust their judgment more than trump watched a bit of governor Cumo today what a difference between him and trump like the difference between night and day 1th grade or university educated we would do well imo to muzzle trump till this pandemic is over 

Yeah Cuomo comes across as though he actually has a brain.....a bit of a liability in US politics I know, but impressive nevertheless.

Edited April 16, 2020 by Pedrogaz

[earlinclaifornia]

3 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

Yeah Cuomo comes across as though he actually has a brain.....a bit of a liability in US politics I know, but impressive nevertheless.

My Thai sister in law living in Florida who is a huge supporter of trump now worships and loves watching Cuomo

[earlinclaifornia]

Trump claimed on Monday had the authority to overrule state governors and order businesses across the country to reopen.

 

He already has reversed this! Same Same more trump BS

[Tropposurfer]

14 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Its blatantly shocking how many people don't understand how federalism/republic of states works. One minute they have to quickly find their fainting couch because trump isn't shutting down the country fast enough, next minute they are clutching their pearls at 'authoritarian' Trump for creating guidelines for opening up the country, stating he doesn't have the authority. Its all rather pathetic.

 

Bottom line is that the Fed is a backup, and local states have the responsibility to maintain preparedness and request to the Fed if they need anything. Going after a president is a stupid deflection when not a single person who needed a ventilator or medication or a bed didnt get one. 

 

Further, there is no way everyone can stay in their homes until a vaccine comes around. We have to learn to live with the disease or face a massive depression, riots, protests, etc. Its impossible. 

This pandemic has shown that the partisans will be partisans no matter now many bodies stack up. 

Well said.

Looks like Trump don't know diddly-squat about the basic constitutional foundations of the country he 'leads?' Nancy Pelosi isn't looking much better of late either. What sad sad place the US is. Such potential and yet 'we the people' haven't got a discerning brain cell between them. Ignorance and jingoism rules. 

[Cryingdick]

10 hours ago, J Town said:

Yeah, the governors are already getting together to form a group that will decide when and how they reopen, regardless of what Trump says. It's like they're uniting the states for the benefit of the people. Too bad there's not ALREADY a governing body to do that.

 

Handful of governors in the liberal blue states of the Northeast. And that's fine. There are 44 other states also deciding what to do independently of them. The Governor of Michigan has gone nuts and is doing her best to hand Trump a victory there. 

 

The places that take the most risk and move the fastest will recover the quickest. The tighter the controls the longer your state will languish. 

 

The sick and vulnerable need to stay inside for the sake of the healthy and not the other way around. The healthy need to go produce basically today to hold the ship together. This talk of shelter in place remaining until a vaccine is found is just nutty. 

 

We are at the point now where any good you could sell is now an essential service. Shutting down the garden centers of big box stores is one example of utter stupidity. The more power hungry your governor is the more your state will suffer. Get it wrong now your state may never recover again.

 

My Grandfather who is 90+ years old, stormed and took Okinawa when he served, was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice back then and says he is willing to do so now. He understands the situation. He remembers the day back then when he got the order that "It's time to go boys!" 

Edited April 16, 2020 by Cryingdick

[Stargeezr]

Wow, I do love comparisons, as long as it is between, say apples and oranges 

and not between apples and gernades.

Geezer

[gamb00ler]

42 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Wow, I do love comparisons, as long as it is between, say apples and oranges 

and not between apples and gernades.

Geezer

Who would have the better idea of how/when to resume commerce?  The Apple guy or the orange guy?  Let's not involve the grenade guy.

Edited April 16, 2020 by gamb00ler

[candide]

It is obvious that Trump is preparing the next blame game.

[Cryingdick]

17 minutes ago, candide said:

It is obvious that Trump is preparing the next blame game.

 

Wow seems you are already laying the blame on. lol 

[Jingthing]

42 minutes ago, candide said:

It is obvious that Trump is preparing the next blame game.

That's how he rolls. Deflecting the blame for all his failings and taking the credit for things he had little or nothing to do with. But we knew what he was before he was elected.

[Jingthing]

7 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Trump claimed on Monday had the authority to overrule state governors and order businesses across the country to reopen.

 

He already has reversed this! Same Same more trump BS

He has the credibility of an overripe kumquat.

[Jingthing]

13 hours ago, J Town said:

Yeah, the governors are already getting together to form a group that will decide when and how they reopen, regardless of what Trump says. It's like they're uniting the states for the benefit of the people. Too bad there's not ALREADY a governing body to do that.

Cuomo just announced tonight he is extending to May 15 and then to be determined by scientific metrics. Including his region. That's in defiance of 45's insane goal of May 1. If you open up too soon and too much it ends up backfiring big time in more deaths and the need to start all over again. A much better testing and tracing infrastructure needs to be built. That will take time and resources. Otherwise, more disaster.

[Jingthing]

18 hours ago, Tug said:

We will see what the governors say I trust their judgment more than trump watched a bit of governor Cumo today what a difference between him and trump like the difference between night and day 1th grade or university educated we would do well imo to muzzle trump till this pandemic is over 

Yes his rhetoric doesn't help. He only hurts.

The contrast between Cuomo and 45 is like the contrast between a man of the enlightenment and a man of the dark ages (but that's probably an insult to the people of the dark ages). 

[candide]

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That's how he rolls. Deflecting the blame for all his failings and taking the credit for things he had little or nothing to do with. But we knew what he was before he was elected.

Recurring patterns of behaviour are easy to predict.

[Jingthing]

Explaining why it's crazy and suicidal to rush this.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/leaked-cdc-report-significant-risk-of-resurgence-of-the-virus-under-trumps-plan-to-reopen-the-economy/

 

Quote

 

Leaked CDC report: ‘Significant risk of resurgence of the virus’ under Trump’s plan to reopen the economy

 

A joint report produced by the Centers for Disease Control and the Federal Emergency Management Agency has warned that even a staggered reopening of the economy could lead to a surge in new COVID-19 cases in the United States.

The report, which was obtained by The Washington Post, writes that even a cautious reopening “will entail a significant risk of resurgence of the virus” even after the country has spent the last several weeks locked down in an effort to flatten the curve of infections.

The only way to minimize the risks, the CDC argues, is to build an elaborate system to test and trace Americans on a massive scale.

 

 

[JCauto]

On 4/16/2020 at 7:59 AM, Mama Noodle said:

Its blatantly shocking how many people don't understand how federalism/republic of states works. One minute they have to quickly find their fainting couch because trump isn't shutting down the country fast enough, next minute they are clutching their pearls at 'authoritarian' Trump for creating guidelines for opening up the country, stating he doesn't have the authority. Its all rather pathetic.

 

Bottom line is that the Fed is a backup, and local states have the responsibility to maintain preparedness and request to the Fed if they need anything. Going after a president is a stupid deflection when not a single person who needed a ventilator or medication or a bed didnt get one. 

 

Further, there is no way everyone can stay in their homes until a vaccine comes around. We have to learn to live with the disease or face a massive depression, riots, protests, etc. Its impossible. 

This pandemic has shown that the partisans will be partisans no matter now many bodies stack up. 

Sorry, but I didn't see your posts when your president claimed "absolute authority" the other day and informed us all that HE'd be the one who makes the decisions. Did that nugget happen to pass you by? I can't seem to find your diatribe about how federalism/republic of states works there. Why not?

 

As to "not a single person who needed a ventilator or medication or a bed didn't get one", that's a straight up lie contradicted by dozens of published accounts from front-line workers at hospitals.

 

Your last line is correct - are you one of the "self-aware wolves"?
 

[riclag]

13 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Handful of governors in the liberal blue states of the Northeast. And that's fine. There are 44 other states also deciding what to do independently of them. The Governor of Michigan has gone nuts and is doing her best to hand Trump a victory there. 

 

The places that take the most risk and move the fastest will recover the quickest. The tighter the controls the longer your state will languish. 

 

The sick and vulnerable need to stay inside for the sake of the healthy and not the other way around. The healthy need to go produce basically today to hold the ship together. This talk of shelter in place remaining until a vaccine is found is just nutty. 

 

We are at the point now where any good you could sell is now an essential service. Shutting down the garden centers of big box stores is one example of utter stupidity. The more power hungry your governor is the more your state will suffer. Get it wrong now your state may never recover again.

 

My Grandfather who is 90+ years old, stormed and took Okinawa when he served, was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice back then and says he is willing to do so now. He understands the situation. He remembers the day back then when he got the order that "It's time to go boys!" 

Very little SS contributions to the Government by employers.  Many  institutions have  extended 90 day grace periods(credit card purchases, mortgages , Insurence company policies, elected surgeries as a out Patients , just to mention a few,people and businesses , Ma and Pa shops ,must go back to work.

Time to take baby steps to reenact the best economy in the world and start getting back to a  new normal.

Thanks fauci ,byrd ,VP Pence and POTUS

Thanks China,not

Edited April 17, 2020 by riclag

[earlinclaifornia]

18 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Handful of governors in the liberal blue states of the Northeast. And that's fine. There are 44 other states also deciding what to do independently of them. The Governor of Michigan has gone nuts and is doing her best to hand Trump a victory there. 

 

The places that take the most risk and move the fastest will recover the quickest. The tighter the controls the longer your state will languish. 

 

The sick and vulnerable need to stay inside for the sake of the healthy and not the other way around. The healthy need to go produce basically today to hold the ship together. This talk of shelter in place remaining until a vaccine is found is just nutty. 

 

We are at the point now where any good you could sell is now an essential service. Shutting down the garden centers of big box stores is one example of utter stupidity. The more power hungry your governor is the more your state will suffer. Get it wrong now your state may never recover again.

 

My Grandfather who is 90+ years old, stormed and took Okinawa when he served, was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice back then and says he is willing to do so now. He understands the situation. He remembers the day back then when he got the order that "It's time to go boys!" 

OK RED states go ahead

[J Town]

A truly great economy would endure this with hardly a noticeable blip. This has exposed what a flimsy, fragile economy this world has. One case in point - the last crash was 40 months ago. Banks make $3 billion PROFIT every quarter. If they saved $1 billion per quarter from the PROFITS, they'd have a boatload of money.

 

We need to re-evaluate what it is we want, not just rush back to a failing system.

Edited April 17, 2020 by J Town

[earlinclaifornia]

Americans take heed:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/16/world/coronavirus-response-lessons-learned-intl/index.html

[earlinclaifornia]

5 hours ago, riclag said:

Very little SS contributions to the Government by employers.  Many  institutions have  extended 90 day grace periods(credit card purchases, mortgages , Insurence company policies, elected surgeries as a out Patients , just to mention a few,people and businesses , Ma and Pa shops ,must go back to work.

Time to take baby steps to reenact the best economy in the world and start getting back to a  new normal.

Thanks fauci ,byrd ,VP Pence and POTUS

Thanks China,not

TWENTY TWO million now unemployed. Months LOST! 34,641 DEAD, USA recession now the worst ever. Go ahead and support him

[Crazy Alex]

5 hours ago, riclag said:

Very little SS contributions to the Government by employers.  Many  institutions have  extended 90 day grace periods(credit card purchases, mortgages , Insurence company policies, elected surgeries as a out Patients , just to mention a few,people and businesses , Ma and Pa shops ,must go back to work.

Time to take baby steps to reenact the best economy in the world and start getting back to a  new normal.

Thanks fauci ,byrd ,VP Pence and POTUS

Thanks China,not

The fact is many Democrats hate Trump more than the virus. Thus, their decisions are made through that prism. They literally want the economy as devastated as possible because they think they need it. Not bad logic, given their choice for the Democrat nominee. But as every scam to GET TRUMP, this one has a very high chance of backfiring. Blue states are generally the worse-hit. They're not going to vote for Trump anyway, so let these feral anti-Trumpers ruin their own states.

[Crazy Alex]

2 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

TWENTY TWO million now unemployed. Months LOST! 34,641 DEAD, USA recession now the worst ever. Go ahead and support him

By definition, a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth:

 

re·ces·sion

/rəˈseSH(ə)n/

Learn to pronounce

 

noun

noun: recession; plural noun: recessions

1. 1.

   a period of temporary economic decline during which trade and industrial activity are reduced, generally identified by a fall in GDP in two successive quarters.

   "the country is in the depths of a recession"

    

   https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=definition+of+recession

    

   And if the economy is so bad, why do you want to keep it shut down? Let me guess, right after the election will be a good time to open it back up, right? Do you understand the problem with using intense hatred of Trump to make important decisions?

Edited April 17, 2020 by Crazy Alex

[Crazy Alex]

12 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Americans take heed:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/16/world/coronavirus-response-lessons-learned-intl/index.html

Why just Americans? Wouldn't you want all nations to learn lessons from a crisis like this?

[Crazy Alex]

 

15 minutes ago, J Town said:

A truly great economy would endure this with hardly a noticeable blip.

Give  us examples.

[Crazy Alex]

21 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

OK RED states go ahead

Well yeah, obviously many if not most red states are doing much better than the cluster of blue states hardest hits. As such, they can get back to business quicker. Pretty simple logic, yes?