Pattaya: Keep the lockdown! But when restrictions lift pubs and bars should be last to open, says expert

[CGW]

Just now, Traubert said:

That much has always been obvious.

To some! most choose to ignore the facts, preferring the drama! "Their" media that they choose to believe, never mentions the fact and they have become incapable of free thought!

[JusticeGB]

A local Italian restaurant put all its tables lengthwise and only 2 chairs per table. All tables were separated by 1.5 metres so social distancing was ok. Then some stupid officials stopped wine drinking etc at 2pm. Who eats Italian food without drinking wine!

Edited April 17, 2020 by JusticeGB
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[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, JusticeGB said:

Who eats Italian food without drinking wine!

Italian Muslims? But in reality the alcohol ban was aimed at the local population.

[Henryford]

30 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Currently there is still 964 active cases in Thailand, do you want to sit on a bar stool next to one of them ?

The chance of dying in Thailand from CV is about 1.5 million to one. I'll take that chance. More dangerous to cross the road.

[Don Mega]

Just now, jacko45k said:

Italian Muslims? But in reality the alcohol ban was aimed at the local population.

And the local population are still buying booze... just not openly at a shop front !

[scubascuba3]

7 minutes ago, Henryford said:

The chance of dying in Thailand from CV is about 1.5 million to one. I'll take that chance. More dangerous to cross the road.

Can you back that claim up with a link, thanks

[jacko45k]

8 minutes ago, Henryford said:

More dangerous to cross the road.

It used to be, not now. You need to find a better irrelevant comparison. Hospitals are apparently quiet at the moment, less accidents happening. 

[Zikomat]

1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

That´s nothing out of the normal and a sensible choice. Actually there are many things they are last in line for in a regular society.

 

 

Like what? 

[Zikomat]

 My opinion (not an expert or specialist of any kind) - it is too early to reopen almost anything (not only places where they drink alcohol). Give those in need money from the budget and ask everybody stay home until 1 of June at least. Not a proper time to be greedy, government.

[fforest1]

51 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Currently there is still 964 active cases in Thailand, do you want to sit on a bar stool next to one of them ?

ok

[Don Mega]

22 minutes ago, Henryford said:

The chance of dying in Thailand from CV is about 1.5 million to one. I'll take that chance. More dangerous to cross the road.

I don't mind the dying part (covid or crossing the road) its the ending up disabled or with severe health issues that scares me.

[martin3]

3 hours ago, Mattd said:

You certainly come across as anti alcohol, anyway, so you think that Bars and Restaurants should remain closed?

Which means that a good percentage of the Thais in Pattaya remain without meaningful work and income, whilst queuing by the hundreds for food being donated with very little social distancing being practised, with the resultant increased risk of transmission, they are stressed due to their situation, which in turn increases in domestic violence, theft and social disorder in general.

Unless the good governor continues to ban the sale of alcohol, then those that commit the domestic violence due to alcohol (hmmm), are those who would rarely if ever sit in a bar or restaurant and will do as normal and purchase their alcohol anyway.

When should the bars be allowed to open again? After a vaccination is found and everybody been forced to have this? 1 more month, 2, 3, a year.....................??

Meanwhile the malls etc. are OK to open........................???

Very well said,couldn't agree more!

[jacko45k]

2 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

 My opinion (not an expert or specialist of any kind) - it is too early to reopen almost anything (not only places where they drink alcohol). Give those in need money from the budget and ask everybody stay home until 1 of June at least. Not a proper time to be greedy, government.

Why, with new infections of only 30/day surely some restrictions an be eased, and focus moved to testing, tracking and contact tracing. At some point restarting the economy will be more important... else there will be more than 30 deaths/day from suicide and crime!

[actonion]

3 hours ago, robblok said:

Still he is spot on about bars and so on being a danger and resulting in spreading things fast so those should indeed be the last to open. 

Bars being a danger in spreading the virus? ....have you seen the street markets in every soi in East Pattaya, in particular  the market in Soi Siam Country Club thats a danger in spreading  any virus there are hundreds of people shopping so close together

[Zikomat]

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Why, with new infections of only 30/day surely some restrictions an be eased, and focus moved to testing, tracking and contact tracing. At some point restarting the economy will be more important... else there will be more than 30 deaths/day from suicide and crime!

Because we still don't know a lot of things about the virus at the moment. So additional caution is a must. 

[actonion]

31 minutes ago, Henryford said:

The chance of dying in Thailand from CV is about 1.5 million to one. I'll take that chance. More dangerous to cross the road.

Or to shop in  Street market in any soi in east pattaya

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, Zikomat said:

Because we still don't know a lot of things about the virus at the moment. So additional caution is a must. 

So everything must stop because of things we do not know? That just doesn't make sense. 

[DoctorG]

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

They just need to think through each activity, restaurants maybe one per table, golf only 2 balls, no caddies (fantastic) etc etc

Well that is me done at the first hole.

[Matzzon]

28 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

Like what? 

Get a good job
Managing a healthy marriage or relationship

Making an intelligent discussion

Caring for more important things than alcohol
Being treated with respect.

How much do you need?

[fforest1]

31 minutes ago, actonion said:

Bars being a danger in spreading the virus? ....have you seen the street markets in every soi in East Pattaya, in particular  the market in Soi Siam Country Club thats a danger in spreading  any virus there are hundreds of people shopping so close together

Please let me know some one who has Covid....I want to prove to myself that all this is not way overblown...

 

There are only like 10,000 other diseases to also worry about...

Edited April 17, 2020 by fforest1

[FarFlungFalang]

It's pretty simple really on the 1st of May open all the other businesses in the morning and the pubs and bars can open last at about 4:00 pm thus satisfying the opening last requirement.

[thailand49]

4 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Obviously knows that Thai people are so exceptional, they have the ability to live on thin air. What an incredibly dumb thing to say to people who are broke and starving.

Not stupid like most of their leaders they live a charm life they are out of touch with reality of their own people!

[FarFlungFalang]

3 hours ago, Gandtee said:

Strange? I haven't read of how the Pattaya blockade is working? Is it still in operation?

I think they had so many cockups that the pandemic finished before they could get their sh!t together.

[couchpotato]

19 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

So everything must stop because of things we do not know? That just doesn't make sense. 

He did say 'caution', not stop.  Caution will be sensible for many months to come.

[couchpotato]

1 minute ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I think they had so many cockups that the pandemic finished before they could get their sh!t together.

It started at 8 checkpoints yesterday. It seems to be working well. It is not a 'blockade'.

[Zikomat]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

So everything must stop because of things we do not know? That just doesn't make sense. 

In case with deadly virus - yes. My opinion only.

[ChrisY1]

Just can't see the bars opening for months....not that they shouldn't, but there'll be zero tourists...a few local expats and more than likely no girls....

Rents havn't been paid also....none or few Thais will have money....also...Prayuth said 5 years ago he (and his elite mates) wanted to clean these areas of hookers and drinking and have a good image of Thailand created... this is the perfect opportunity to do that.

 

[Jimbo2014]

Here is my concept art for my new Bar called 6 feet of separation.

 

 

[Chassa]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

expert

Expert what?

4 months learning (Covid-19) and you're an expert, guess i'm an expert too!

[shackleton]

A lot of the  governors would like to open earlier towns cities ect

Get the workforce back to work

Quite a few are doing the talk but when it comes to the walk

Let's wait and see if the Corovirus keeps dropping there could be a ray of hope 

May the 1st is not long away