Study shows that Covid-19 can survive high temperatures

[webfact]

Study shows that Covid-19 can survive high temperatures

By THE NATION

 

 

Dr Thiravat Hema-chudha, a senior medical lecturer at Chulalongkorn University, on Sunday (April 19) said heat of 60 degrees Celsius or higher cannot kill Covid-19 or its ability to replicate, when the virus is in a dirty environment.

 

Some scientists had theorised that higher-temperature climates in Asia were one reason why infection rates were many times lower there than in European countries, but the new findings appear to pour cold water on that idea.

 

Dr Thiravat shared the findings of researchers at Aix-Marseille University in France, which were published by the South China Morning Post newspaper on Sunday.

 

The newspaper said that scientists infected African green monkey kidney cells with a strain of Covid-19 from a patient in Berlin.

 

The cells were loaded into “clean” and “dirty” test tubes along with animal proteins to simulate biological contamination in real-life samples, such as an oral swab.

 

After heating for an hour, the strains in the clean tube were completely deactivated, while those in the dirty environment survived.

 

The heating process resulted in a clear drop in infectivity, but enough living strains remained to be able to start new round for infection, said the newspaper.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30386410

 

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[kevin612]

This is absolutely a bad news, covid 19 will stay for a long time.

[ukrules]

I'd like to see someone test the viruses ability to survive at 35 degrees C and 80% humidity on non wet surfaces.

 

[anterian]

I think there is a difference between surviving and propagating, the virus survived but only resumed when conditions improved. 

[rasmus5150]

1 hour ago, ukrules said:

I'd like to see someone test the viruses ability to survive at 35 degrees C and 80% humidity on non wet surfaces.

 

Human bodies????....

[rasmus5150]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The cells were loaded into “clean” and “dirty” test tubes along with animal proteins to simulate biological contamination in real-life samples, such as an oral swab.

"Dirty" like all us foreigners ????

[rbkk]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

which were published by the South China Morning Post newspaper on Sunday.

No. Tuesday 14th April. Try to keep up Thailand. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3079831/coronavirus-can-survive-long-exposure-high-temperature-threat

[Eibot]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Some scientists had theorised that higher-temperature climates in Asia were one reason why infection rates were many times lower there than in European countries, but the new findings appear to pour cold water on that idea.

Also the same article;

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The heating process resulted in a clear drop in infectivity, but enough living strains remained to be able to start new round for infection, said the newspaper.

 

Conclusion;

 

No heat doesn't kill it, but it's making it less effective. As we all know. Covid-19 still spreads but significantly slower, basically killing itself off. 

 

Basically this research DOES support why infection rates are many times lower than in European Countries - (or colder Chinese regions)

[outsider]

This virus is still relatively unknown and worse, mutates just as scientists think they have it figured out, based on what I've been reading here and there. I am no scientist and do not have relevant background to comment with any conviction, but I have a gut feel this pandemic, or at least the virus, is going to be with us for a while yet. I think anyone rushing to go back to 'a normal life' is in for a surprise when this nasty thing waits to strike again. I think we're at the beginning of a paradigm shift in social norms, and some of what we're going through now is going to be the new 'normal' - social distancing and all.

Edited April 20, 2020 by outsider

[Moonlover]

This has done the rounds a couple of times already and yet I still see a very large natural laboratory called the 'tropical zone' around the world that says otherwise.

 

There are many things in nature that haven't yet been explained, but that doesn't mean they aren't true.

 

Tropical zones are safer zones IMO.

[Yadon Toploy]

So it was bunkum as suspected.

 

Oh well...

 

Maybe it's the face masks or the som tum?

Edited April 20, 2020 by Yadon Toploy

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

 

Dr Thiravat Hema-chudha, a senior medical lecturer at Chulalongkorn University, on Sunday (April 19) said heat of 60 degrees Celsius or higher cannot kill Covid-19 or its ability to replicate, when the virus is in a dirty environment.

"Dirty environment" is he saying what I think he's saying?

[FarFlungFalang]

9 minutes ago, outsider said:

This virus is still relatively unknown and worse, mutates just as scientists think they have it figured out. I am no scientist and do not have relevant background to comment with any conviction,

You've just said it mutates and that you have no relevant background to comment with conviction.Are you saying the virus mutates without conviction or that it mutates without conviction?

[rkidlad]

In Thailand I rarely get sick. I never get chesty coughs or other flu-like symptoms. I might get the odd niggle of a sore throat or slightly blocked nose, but never anything that would stop me from going to work or functioning as normal (bar the odd bout of food poisoning). 
 

I’m generally much, much healthier here because of the warm climate. Not like when I lived in the UK where I would always get something in the winter. We are lucky to have this climate during a pandemic. 
 

The thing that worries me now is rainy season. It’s a breeding ground for illnesses. You can easily see how more people get sick during this period. Let’s hope things get much better before it kicks in. 

[BobBKK]

"African green monkey kidney cells"  (purchased at the wet market Wuhan)  next up - "how Thailand cured C19"  (along with Aids, Ebola, Mad Cow, SARS and bird flu)

[rbkk]

5 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

"Dirty environment" is he saying what I think he's saying?

Singapore migrant housing?

[rbkk]

2 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Are you saying the virus mutates without conviction or that it mutates without conviction?

Same thing?

[FarFlungFalang]

9 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Tropical zones are safer zones IMO.

The reported numbers say it's safer it doesn't necessarily mean they are safer and if infection numbers are much higher than is reported as an antibody survey has suggested then everywhere might be safer than previously thought but hopefully we will get a clear picture later on.

[outsider]

4 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

You've just said it mutates and that you have no relevant background to comment with conviction.Are you saying the virus mutates without conviction or that it mutates without conviction?

Yes, a little confusing. Edited my original comment. Thank you.

[FarFlungFalang]

3 minutes ago, rbkk said:

Singapore migrant housing?

Are all foreigners considered dirty then?

[tropo]

1 hour ago, ukrules said:

I'd like to see someone test the viruses ability to survive at 35 degrees C and 80% humidity on non wet surfaces.

 

The human body is 37C and very wet, so why would 35C at 80% humidity kill it? That would be near perfect conditions for SARS-Cov-2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[3NUMBAS]

1 hour ago, kevin612 said:

This is absolutely a bad news, covid 19 will stay for a long time.

its like the common cold .stays for years

[rbkk]

10 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Are all foreigners considered dirty then?

From a nationalistic, xenophobic perspective, sadly yes.

[FarFlungFalang]

24 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

its like the common cold .stays for years

At least you didn't say it's like the flu!I know it looks,smells and tastes like the flu but I've been told it's nothing like the flu.

[Aspaltso]

36 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

In Thailand I rarely get sick. I never get chesty coughs or other flu-like symptoms. I might get the odd niggle of a sore throat or slightly blocked nose, but never anything that would stop me from going to work or functioning as normal (bar the odd bout of food poisoning). 
 

I’m generally much, much healthier here because of the warm climate. Not like when I lived in the UK where I would always get something in the winter. We are lucky to have this climate during a pandemic. 
 

The thing that worries me now is rainy season. It’s a breeding ground for illnesses. You can easily see how more people get sick during this period. Let’s hope things get much better before it kicks in. 

I have had some pretty nasty flu viruses during the rainy season, and I suspect that covid might make a stronger appearance during this period. I think its a good idea to use a fan, open windows, and forget about using the air conditioner.

[FarFlungFalang]

18 minutes ago, rbkk said:

From a nationalistic, xenophobic perspective, sadly yes.

Even more sad is nationalistic xenophobia is also quite contagious under some conditions.

[Eibot]

1 hour ago, tropo said:

The human body is 37C and very wet, so why would 35C at 80% humidity kill it? That would be near perfect conditions for SARS-Cov-2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are talking when a virus is outside it's host. 

[alant]

Seems like this is indicative of the burning season being a major part of the problem

[Snackbar]

One swallow does not a summer make.

 

During the rainy season people are enclosed together in confined spaces with windows and doors closed, increasing the spread of viruses.

 

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/sick-in-rainy-weather-reasons

 

In the dry season, well ventilated spaces and more time spent outside boost immunity with vitamin D. 

 

https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/benefits-vitamin-d

 

 

[martinhp]

16 hours ago, Eibot said:

Also the same article;

 

Conclusion;

 

No heat doesn't kill it, but it's making it less effective. As we all know. Covid-19 still spreads but significantly slower, basically killing itself off. 

 

Basically this research DOES support why infection rates are many times lower than in European Countries - (or colder Chinese regions)

True 

Exactly same like any other virus 

But 

We sit in prison 

Have curfew 

Restrictions like unbelievable 

And are not allowed to give food to people who need 

And almost all shops are closed. 

In my world no government have the mandate to restrict any country like its done. 

That's why we have constitution I can see why some restrictions are helpful. 

But a government must ask a population to do, can not make laws or order this and that

they are not in charge like unlimited. 

And one thing is sure nobody shall go hungry to bed because of restrictions made by any government or go bankrupt. 

But that's what all seams to accepted. 

I'm sure this will go past untouched with no consequences to any government anywhere. 

That's the most dangerous with the corona virus. 

Governments succeeded in scaring people off so much as nobody find commen sense to be implied.