Lowest number of Covid-19 cases in a month raises hopes of easing lockdown restrictions

[Bkk Brian]

5 hours ago, jimn said:

I read the coming storm and its a nonsence story. Its also in the business section not any health section because the guy is not a doctor, he is an administrator at some small private hopital. Also he claims the hospitals are full, well thats nonsence as well because only 700 or so people are in hospital with the virus across the whole of Thailand.

He says the main covid specialist hospitals are full, not all hospitals. 

 

This also backs up his account and gives credibility to his statements, from the Chief of the Isolation Ward in the Bamrasnaradura Infectious Diseases Institute.

 

“I’ve never before faced a situation where lots of patients come in like this.
Previously, our institute treated patients with SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome), MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) and Ebola (Ebola virus disease). But only a small number of them. This time our negative pressure rooms are full,”

 

https://www.who.int/thailand/news/feature-stories/detail/100-days-of-dedication

[Thunder26]

8 hours ago, transam said:

But wait, when they see that the road casualty numbers have plummeted, something that they have been unable to solve, they may keep the lock down no beer swilling  in place.... ????

I guess that's what they think, but the real cause in the reduction of road fatalities is that there is less traffic around the country because of  the lockdown and curfew. I don't think beer is the main culprit. Most people drink it before going to bed, not before driving.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Thunder26

[Thunder26]

7 hours ago, jimn said:

I agree that Germany is doing an excellent job, however your not right about Thailand. For some unknown reason the virus has not taken hold over here, I think its the intense heat. Yes I agree the lack of testing means few cases. However it what you say is true we would see hospitals full to the brim and many deaths. The absence of both means you are wrong.

I think another factor besides heat that slows down the virus spread is wearing masks. Thais do wear masks in public and they do not touch each other, like handshakes, hugs etc.

[sandrew33]

8 hours ago, Aland said:

It’s a virus, unless it’s totally eradicated then it’s going to resurface. Thanks for the complement on the comeback, I sometimes through them out when I see someone claiming “everyone agrees” when in fact there is very little agreement. Which test? How many? Test everyone every day? That’s about what you would have to do, along with complete isolation of positive cases, to achieve the dream of eradication but again, if everyone agrees then I guess the problem is solved.

Read the comments of health authorities in basically every civilised country. You choosing to be an ignorant smartarse doesn’t actually move anything forward. 
 

I’ve mentioned the PM of Australia taking his advice from the CMO (a country currently doing better than most and comfortably better than any other western country) testing 9 times as much as Thailand and still wanting to beef up aspects of its testing regime before easing any restrictions. 
 

And what they want to do is all public record. Despite Trumps moronic behaviour Fauci has also made it clear that it needs to improve its testing and then its test and trace plus quarantine/isolation regime to limit a second wave. 
 

Germany and others have outlined similar plans, all public record. For anyone willing to try there is plenty of information in broad agreement out there, 

 

But hey you have no solution, NFI and the delusion of a quick wit on Thai visa. 
 

Let’s hope you survive this and learn something ????

[Thunder26]

7 hours ago, 473geo said:

Always happy to be corrected, perhaps you would be so kind as to drop in some valid annual daily temperature stats that show 35 degrees all year apart from 2 weeks you mention - lets start with stats for Phuket, Bangkok, and Chang Mai  all showing 35 degrees throughout the year excepting the 2 weeks

Not everyone is a weather expert, just ignore ????

[EricTh]

4 hours ago, Dannybigboy said:

I still think that Thailand must be the luckiest country in the world , being so close to China and reacting very slow in the beginning of the Corona Pandemic. People from China was even able to travel to Thailand for a long time - maybe even now ?? Something must be wrong ... it is simply not possible with such low numbers. Maybe I am just totally wrong and Buddha is very powerful ??

 

The neighbouring countries to China such as Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Vietnam and Taiwan seem to be doing much better than those further away like Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore.

 

Is Buddha helping them as all are majority Buddhist countries..... 

 

The only neighbouring country not doing well was Korea.

Edited April 21, 2020 by EricTh

[EricTh]

1 hour ago, Thunder26 said:

I think another factor besides heat that slows down the virus spread is wearing masks. Thais do wear masks in public and they do not touch each other, like handshakes, hugs etc.

 

Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, Singapore has high heat but their numbers are high so this theory ain't plausible.

 

I think it is the amount of social distancing in a society and also measures taken.

 

If Thailand didn't have that boxing stadium gathering, the number of cases would have been much lower. That triggered the first big cluster in Bangkok around mid March.

Edited April 21, 2020 by EricTh

[Ron jeremy]

The people are starving, it's getting dire, the economy in Thailand MUST open up. No ands ifs about it.

in order to open, numbers must be low. 

So whether it's true or not, the numbers may or may not be manipulated, but regardless, the government will quote low numbers, and open things. 

Right move or wrong? 

They have no choice.

[Canuck1966]

53 minutes ago, EricTh said:

 

Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, Singapore has high heat but their numbers are high so this theory ain't plausible.

 

I think it is the amount of social distancing in a society and also measures taken.

 

If Thailand didn't have that boxing stadium gathering, the number of cases would have been much lower. That triggered the first big cluster in Bangkok around mid March.

They would have covered that up too if not for the 'famous' actor revealing he had it on SM.

He was soon threatened by the authorities !!

[lkv]

2 hours ago, EricTh said:

If Thailand didn't have that boxing stadium gathering, the number of cases would have been much lower. That triggered the first big cluster in Bangkok around mid March.

That triggered the first big testing in Thailand, and the last one perhaps.

 

Meanwhile, people drop dead in the street. "It's because he did not listen to the government, he was a party goer".

 

The very sick ones that are lucky enough not to drop dead in the street, are hiding in their houses, and the families keep quiet about it, they don't want to become the shame of the community / apartment building / village. Shhhttt!

 

It was pneumonia..... Province must be disease free, you see.

Edited April 21, 2020 by lkv

[hotchilli]

On 4/21/2020 at 4:41 PM, rumak said:

The lifting of restrictions is just going to see a surge in new cases unless the testing regime is massively broadened and improved. 

Or dropped altogether.

[joebrown]

6 hours ago, Ron jeremy said:

The people are starving, it's getting dire, the economy in Thailand MUST open up. No ands ifs about it.

in order to open, numbers must be low. 

So whether it's true or not, the numbers may or may not be manipulated, but regardless, the government will quote low numbers, and open things. 

Right move or wrong? 

They have no choice.

I agree. The figures will be shown to be low enough when the PM wants them to be!

[DrTuner]

5 hours ago, lkv said:

 

 

The very sick ones that are lucky enough not to drop dead in the street, are hiding in their houses, and the families keep quiet about it, they don't want to become the shame of the community / apartment building / village. Shhhttt!

 

It was pneumonia..... Province must be disease free, you see.

Ah... face, the deadly cultural flaw, strikes back with vengeance.

[rumak]

2 hours ago, hotchilli said:

15 hours ago, rumak said:

The lifting of restrictions is just going to see a surge in new cases unless the testing regime is massively broadened and improved. 

Or dropped altogether.

The above is not my quote (unless i am bi polar and posting in my sleep)

 

I'm sure its just a technical error that occurs when trying to copy a response to a post .... if ya follow me

 

the record shows i am FOR lifting many restrictions and also vaccinating people with a dose of common sense and responsibility.    "massively broadened " is a term i reserve for referring to the fattening of the world population

Edited April 22, 2020 by rumak

[Bkk Brian]

COVID-19 deaths now surpass Flu deaths this year:

 

Flu = 149,701

COVID-19 = 177,439

 

(as of the 22nd April, stats from worldometer)

 

For all those saying this is just the flu, the deaths say otherwise

Edited April 22, 2020 by Bkk Brian

[rumak]

5 hours ago, lkv said:

 

Meanwhile, people drop dead in the street.

quick !  there is an opening at yahoo for a "journalist"  .     

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[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, Ron jeremy said:

So whether it's true or not, the numbers may or may not be manipulated, but regardless, the government will quote low numbers, and open things. 

Right move or wrong? 

They have no choice.

Correct, the economy was struggling along with tourism before Corvid came along, [maybe a good excuse for the government to say it wasn't there fault].

But the truth is the economy was suffering long before this started due to the high baht, companies were struggling to be competitive, tourism was tanking, with T.A.T citing China & India as their only hope.

Thailand was stating the highest growth in Asia, the best economy, so where's the money?

They can't even afford to pay 5,000 baht to out-of-work citizens.

This government has emptied the coffers, pillaged every satang they could lay their hands on, and got caught out.

Thousands of Thais are on the streets begging for some money or a meal... televised and on social networks worldwide something Prayut cannot hide from.

Prayut has to write a begging letter to the multi billionaires to help him out of a tight spot, because he hasn't a pot to pee in.

Yes Thais have to get back to work, the food markets have to open again, the street vendors need to operate as normal, restaurants need to be free of shackles, children need to get back to school, and all the other nefarious establishments need to offer their services.

Entertainment venues will be wanting to follow quickly, get workers back, music bands playing again and the dancing girls back to the poles.

The numbers will show a dramatic drop as we end this month, a miracle or not, the government will make it happen, it's broke, it has to happen or anarchy on the streets will be the next thing.

 

[ifmu]

20 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

 

But they only had dwarf sizes

I understand completely ..5555

[spidermike007]

This thing is nearly gone from Thailand. Kudos to the officials who dealt with this, and kudos to the people who followed the safety guidelines. In another week or two, my guess is this will be behind us. Very thankful for that.

[sandyf]

16 hours ago, LeamchabangLarry said:

You are going to sit here and argue that 31/34 is "Cool Season" compared to 35 degrees?  Seriously?

LOL.  

I never said that but taking things out of context makes for a good distraction.

Your statement

"only season I've known here in a decade is one that is  hot 35 degrees C until a break of 2 weeks some time in late Dec/early January and then it's right back to 35 degrees"

is garbage.

[sandyf]

13 hours ago, Dannybigboy said:

I still think that Thailand must be the luckiest country in the world , being so close to China and reacting very slow in the beginning of the Corona Pandemic. People from China was even able to travel to Thailand for a long time - maybe even now ?? Something must be wrong ... it is simply not possible with such low numbers. Maybe I am just totally wrong and Buddha is very powerful ??

More going on than people realise

 

2.1 Surveillance Protocol for COVID-19

The accumulated data from 3 January to 18 April 2020 showed that among 37,255 flights, there were a total of 4,399,728 passengers screened. Among those, 662 people met the case definition criteria of patients under investigation (PUI). Outside of the airports, 136,209 people from 1,698 ships were screened at seaports between 1 January and 18 April 2020, and two people met the PUI criteria. There were 1,809,743 people screened at ground ports between 1 February to 18 April 2020. Between 30 January to 17 April 2020, a total of 156,388 people who were renewing their passports were screened at the Government Complex Commemorating His Majesty at Chaengwattana Road. The total number of PUI from all ports is currently 664 people.

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/situation/situation-no107-190463.pdf

[Skallywag]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

COVID-19 deaths now surpass Flu deaths this year:

 

Flu = 149,701

COVID-19 = 177,439

 

(as of the 22nd April, stats from worldometer)

 

For all those saying this is just the flu, the deaths say otherwise

 ~1% of total deaths this year are from Covid 19, and 0.83% of deaths from normal flu. 

How about the other ~ 17, 850,000 deaths so far this year? 

https://www.worldometers.info/ 

Seems death is a constant in our world

Edited April 22, 2020 by Skallywag

[mistral53]

17 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

This thing is nearly gone from Thailand. Kudos to the officials who dealt with this, and kudos to the people who followed the safety guidelines. In another week or two, my guess is this will be behind us. Very thankful for that.

Seriously - have you ever crosschecked a news cycle? Thailand is so low because the testing is way below e.g. the US (which is by far not the highest) - little testing = fewer cases

 

tests per 1 million population:

 

Thailand: 2,043/1 million

USA: 12,651/1 million

Italy 23,985/1 million

 

 

Edited April 22, 2020 by mistral53
clarity

[Skallywag]

32 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

This thing is nearly gone from Thailand. Kudos to the officials who dealt with this, and kudos to the people who followed the safety guidelines. In another week or two, my guess is this will be behind us. Very thankful for that.

+1 

Just realize, that once we are all back "outside" rejoicing that restrictions are lifted, you are in reality still not "safe" from the many dangers that exist in our world

Stay safe, be well, and social distance. Wear a mask, wash your hands, and so on

Edited April 22, 2020 by Skallywag

[newatthis]

6 minutes ago, sandyf said:

The accumulated data from 3 January to 18 April 2020 showed that among 37,255 flights, there were a total of 4,399,728 passengers screened.

i agree that Thailand has handled this outbreak very well. However the above info has to be BS.

4,399,728 passengers screened in 106 days =

41,506 screenings a day

1,729 screenings an hour

28 screenings per minute

1 screening approx every 2 seconds.

 

1,001 1,002.....what sort of screening process is that?

[jimn]

18 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Sure, sure, just a chairman of a tiny hospital: https://www.thg.co.th/en

Sorry I dont see your point. I said small not tiny. They are not the major player in the market. Again I must stress he is not a doctor and the article appeared in the business section, which says it all.

[sandyf]

18 minutes ago, newatthis said:

i agree that Thailand has handled this outbreak very well. However the above info has to be BS.

4,399,728 passengers screened in 106 days =

41,506 screenings a day

1,729 screenings an hour

28 screenings per minute

1 screening approx every 2 seconds.

 

1,001 1,002.....what sort of screening process is that?

Probably thermal imaging as they did during the SARS outbreak.

[jimn]

18 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Do you know there are only 700 people with the virus in hospital or is that the figure released by the administration?

Do I really have to answer this comment. Follow the reports and follow the trend. You cant fix figures for ever and the trend now is consistantly down. Why do people like yourself continually doubt a good news story.

[Bkk Brian]

27 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

 ~1% of total deaths this year are from Covid 19, and 0.83% of deaths from normal flu. 

How about the other ~ 17, 850,000 deaths so far this year? 

https://www.worldometers.info/ 

Seems death is a constant in our world

COVID is new so no comparison except to say that if it had not been around then around 177,439 would probably still be alive.