Popular Post smedly Posted April 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, sandyf said: What you want to know is quite irrelevant. What is important is reality and I saw that this morning in the hospital. No ambulances queuing up, no families crying their eyes out, no dead bodies being taken away, no staff running around like headless chickens in PPE. The staff were going about their work in an organised and constructive manner, patient seating arrangements had been altered in line with the emergency measures, screening was in place at all entrances, the canteen was operating as normal with people keeping their distance. People want to know the reality of a situation not delusional ramblings. the delusion is that you believe people with this infection are being treated in hospitals Edited April 24, 2020 by smedly 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 hours ago, DrTuner said: Let's hope the government never does get straight with us, or we'll have a boring time in isolation with nothing to do ???? So you are in isolation, maybe that explains everything. No requirement to be in isolation in Thailand as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, smedly said: the delusion is that you believe people with this infection are being treated in hospitals Source of your information please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, jimn said: So you are in isolation, maybe that explains everything. No requirement to be in isolation in Thailand as far as I know. Common sense requires it . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, jimn said: Source of your information please your post (deleted) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Guderian said: The Pattaya News says this (I'm not sure if we're allowed to link to the article so I won't, it's easy to find if you want to read it yourself): "Of the new cases, the majority were very close contacts, such as live in family members, of previous confirmed cases." And that brings me back to yesterday's moan, that there's no proactive testing of groups of underprivileged people living in cramped and crowded conditions, such as poor Thai people and immigrant workers. Buddha forbid, but refusing to find out what might be circulating in these populations is just inviting a second wave. Singapore admits that it made this mistake, it wouldn't take that much money or effort for the Thai government to try and avoid it. If a second wave does happen here, we're all going to be very sorry about it. (Actually, maybe that should be a third wave rather than a second one, as it seems Thailand has already had two waves!) Do you not think by now those groups would have shown up we are talking a month now under the slack lock down. The people who went to isaan should have shown up by now. A friend who was in that group went back and has been off lock down nearly 2 weeks enough time for illness to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TeaMonkey Posted April 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2020 This is essential viewing. Press conference where doctors go over the results of their research. The coronavirus is no more deadly than the flu. The lockdowns are reducing the immune systems of people. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, TeaMonkey said: The coronavirus is no more deadly than the flu. The lockdowns are reducing the immune systems of people. I could not agree more. Since they shut down the gyms and had to stay mostly home under lockdown (Europe), I've gained 4 kilos. I am taking measures currently to get back on track. Obesity is actually a risk factor. I can also state that I had some flu & caugh that went away, not too sure what that was all about, nor will I ever find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GAZZPA Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 8 hours ago, DavisH said: Again, mass testing isn't necesary at this time - only 2-3% of tests are positive. My waste money on testing random people for the virus. When a reiable antibody test is developed, that would be more useful. Yesterdey NY reported around 10% of 3000 people randomly tested for the virus had antibodies, though it seems unclear how reliable this antibody test is. That makes sense. The only thing to consider is the virus spread. It is spread over a very wide area. It had to get to all those regions somehow and I think it would be difficult to swallow that these are all individuals that travelled from a boxing match for example. It's a nice low number and I hope that it's correct for the sake of you all, however looking at how infectious and rampant it is here in the UK I suspect it is hidden in Thailand and probably running through the villages and rural areas. Whatever the situation it cannot be hidden forever so I guess time will tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 hours ago, smedly said: your post (deleted) Your funny. Are you poster TV number 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 hours ago, TeaMonkey said: The coronavirus is no more deadly than the flu. At this point, now that information is starting to come in and the large count of asymptomatic people who were infected without knowing it is seeing daylight, I think I'll slowly steer towards the same conclusion. But I'd like to see widespread antibody testing before setting my mind on anything. Of course the information we have now was not available just a few weeks ago. The lockdowns and other measures were prudent and should there be a nasty mutation or further changes in information towards the grimmer side, at least there's now a procedure to get them in place quicker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, TeaMonkey said: This is essential viewing. Press conference where doctors go over the results of their research. The coronavirus is no more deadly than the flu. The lockdowns are reducing the immune systems of people. Thanks for the posting this video.Hopefully soon the sensationalism surrounding this outbreak will be seen for what it really is and this outbreak will be seen as a normal event and the cure is worse than the disease.Beware the cure. Edited April 24, 2020 by FarFlungFalang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Some troll posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 17 hours ago, smedly said: hey either don't want to know the results or don't want to pay for mass testing Don't want or cannot pay for mass unemployment is nearer the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, DrTuner said: At this point, now that information is starting to come in and the large count of asymptomatic people who were infected without knowing it is seeing daylight, I think I'll slowly steer towards the same conclusion. But I'd like to see widespread antibody testing before setting my mind on anything. Of course the information we have now was not available just a few weeks ago. The lockdowns and other measures were prudent and should there be a nasty mutation or further changes in information towards the grimmer side, at least there's now a procedure to get them in place quicker. it seems my post was deleted perhaps in error as it was on topic Dr Campbell does daily updates on CV-19 and a considerable amount of research - his presentation yesterday discusses the results of a random study carried out in New York and the results are very interesting - just do a google search for Dr. John Campbell another point of interest for those with Hypertension (high blood pressure) and on certain types of drugs is quite interesting also - this is worth a read https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-conoravirus-blood-pressure-ins/blood-pressure-drugs-are-in-the-crosshairs-of-covid-19-research-idUSKCN2251GQ Edited April 25, 2020 by smedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, smedly said: it seems my post was deleted perhaps in error as it was on topic Dr Campbell does daily updates on CV-19 and a considerable amount of research - his presentation yesterday discusses the results of a random study carried out in New York and the results are very interesting - just do a google search for Dr. John Campbell another point of interest for those with Hypertension (high blood pressure) and on certain types of drugs is quite interesting also - this is worth a read https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-conoravirus-blood-pressure-ins/blood-pressure-drugs-are-in-the-crosshairs-of-covid-19-research-idUSKCN2251GQ I started watching his vids for a while but went off them as he seemed to be preaching for the lockdown scenario to much and how it's possible to stop the spread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 16 hours ago, lkv said: When is the last time you have seen hospital staff circulating on hallways with dead bodies before covid-19? Never, I would have thought so. You can assume they move bodies in a discreet way, not parading them in front of hospital visitors. If you are going to quote text in isolation "What is important is reality and I saw that this morning in the hospital." address the point in question. We are all aware that "reality" is an alien concept to the Thai bashers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Martin Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 20 hours ago, smedly said: be very careful folks that live here - just because they ease lockdowns and produce these figures doesn't mean diddly squat I have to Agree 100% Once they open up the Malls and the Bars etc... I for one will still be wearing a mask and will still be social distancing until a vaccine has been produced. Don't forget, once those big birds start flying again the game of Russian Roulette begins - it's your life guys, so completely your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, UK Martin said: it's your life guys, so completely your choice. Except during enforced lock downs... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaMonkey Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Vitamin D could have a stronger role in preventing this virus than previously thought. https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-21211/v1 “ Background/Aims: WHO declared SARS-Cov-2 a global pandemic. The aims of this paper are to assess if there is any association between mean levels of vitamin D in various countries and cases respectively mortality caused by COVID-19. Methods: We have identified the mean levels of vitamin D for 20 Europeans Countries for which we have also got the data regarding the morbidity and mortality caused by COVID-19. Results: The mean level of vitamin D (average 56mmol/L, STDEV 10.61) in each country was strongly associated with the number of cases/1M (mean 295.95, STDEV 298.73 p=0.004, respectively with the mortality/1M (mean 5.96, STDEV 15.13, p < 0.00001). Discussion: Vitamin D levels are severely low in the aging population especially in Spain, Italy and Switzerland. This is also the most vulnerable group of population for COVID-19. Conclusions: We believe, that we can advise Vitamin D supplementation to protect against SARS-CoV2 infection.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, TeaMonkey said: Vitamin D could have a stronger role in preventing this virus than previously thought. https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-21211/v1 “ Background/Aims: WHO declared SARS-Cov-2 a global pandemic. The aims of this paper are to assess if there is any association between mean levels of vitamin D in various countries and cases respectively mortality caused by COVID-19. Methods: We have identified the mean levels of vitamin D for 20 Europeans Countries for which we have also got the data regarding the morbidity and mortality caused by COVID-19. Results: The mean level of vitamin D (average 56mmol/L, STDEV 10.61) in each country was strongly associated with the number of cases/1M (mean 295.95, STDEV 298.73 p=0.004, respectively with the mortality/1M (mean 5.96, STDEV 15.13, p < 0.00001). Discussion: Vitamin D levels are severely low in the aging population especially in Spain, Italy and Switzerland. This is also the most vulnerable group of population for COVID-19. Conclusions: We believe, that we can advise Vitamin D supplementation to protect against SARS-CoV2 infection.” And where do you get it for free? OUTSIDE in the sun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 6 hours ago, smedly said: it seems my post was deleted perhaps in error as it was on topic Dr Campbell does daily updates on CV-19 and a considerable amount of research - his presentation yesterday discusses the results of a random study carried out in New York and the results are very interesting - just do a google search for Dr. John Campbell another point of interest for those with Hypertension (high blood pressure) and on certain types of drugs is quite interesting also - this is worth a read https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-conoravirus-blood-pressure-ins/blood-pressure-drugs-are-in-the-crosshairs-of-covid-19-research-idUSKCN2251GQ Thanks, I prefer written down articles so I can link to them and quote, podcasts, TV shows and other assorted talking heads should give a transcript. Here's probably what it's about: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-23/new-york-finds-virus-marker-in-13-9-suggesting-wide-spread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 39 minutes ago, DrTuner said: Thanks, I prefer written down articles so I can link to them and quote, podcasts, TV shows and other assorted talking heads should give a transcript. Here's probably what it's about: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-23/new-york-finds-virus-marker-in-13-9-suggesting-wide-spread Dr. John Campbell does a daily update on CV-19, he is a doctor and has most of the stuff nailed down - very good info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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