Ian C HH Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I can recognize and indeed love, statistics. ( No generalised statements from members about statistics being humbug please, it just shows collective ignorance of logic) The video from the two SoCal PRACTICING immunologists has very strong arguments for opening up lockdown which are based purely on international statistical comparisons,( that I can identify with) but here’s the kicker that I’m hoping somebody can answer in this forum hopefully without conspiracy theories or flippant remarks. - IF these Doctors are even HALFWAY correct and we COULD possibly control the inevitable deaths at 0.1% rather than the current 0.3%, through SELECTIVE precautionary measures, then WHY is total lockdown the preferred government route when politicians, of ALL people, would know the bankruptcies, to individuals, to businesses in general and to whole NATIONS for a generation to come that it will cause. ? Do we hate big business SO much? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pixelaoffy Posted April 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) If Thailand's going to make me wear face masks in every public place it can go to hell, Or I should say leave the hell Edited April 25, 2020 by pixelaoffy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pixelaoffy Posted April 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, robbioff said: Drama Queen! 555 nonsense face mask in public places, It all about image NOTHING ELSE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mauGR1 Posted April 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fairynuff said: Tell that to the people who died of Covid. The point which you are trying to ignore is, did they die of covid, or did they die with covid ? I know that you can't answer that question, but the fact is that there is a difference. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pixelaoffy Posted April 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) Wheres the figures for infections and deaths in Thailand from this expert? It was around 20 with no deaths earlier in the week .Fact is if most countries had the low level it has it would get economy going again, Curfews, parks closed and no alcohol. Total over reaction. Destroying people s lives by not allowing shops to open. Edited April 25, 2020 by pixelaoffy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piewarmer Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Masks don't help facial recognition software, that's a bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelaoffy Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, mauGR1 said: The point which you are trying to ignore is, did they die of covid, or did they die with covid ? I know that you can't answer that question, but the fact is that there is a difference. absolutely, The statistics gov release are what's known as "damn lies and statistics" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Krataiboy Posted April 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) Why do politicians of all stripes treat Bill Gates like the Pope of the new pandemics religion. The guy made his money selling computer software, for Pete's sake, and doesn't have any medical qualifications. Yet he is given endless media platforms to pontificate, and the idiots who run our lives stupidly take everything this philanthro-capitalist spouts as gospel. Shouldn't we rather listen to people who are better qualified to judge whether the Day of Judgement is really coming - unless, of course, we agree to give up our rights, freedoms and entire way of life to our political/corporate overlords? The article cited below offers an expert review of the latest key facts about COVID 19, plus suggestions for how to get back to normality. It should be compulsory reading for everyone on the planet. https://www.zerohedge.com/health/data-stop-panic-end-total-isolation?utm_campaign=&utm_content=ZeroHedge Edited April 25, 2020 by Krataiboy 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mauGR1 Posted April 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ian C HH said: IF these Doctors are even HALFWAY correct and we COULD possibly control the inevitable deaths at 0.1% rather than the current 0.3%, through SELECTIVE precautionary measures, then WHY is total lockdown the preferred government route when politicians, of ALL people, would know the bankruptcies, to individuals, to businesses in general and to whole NATIONS for a generation to come that it will cause. ? Do we hate big business SO much? My very personal opinion, is that global economy is/was in need of a reset. To expand a little, the climate and pollution issues need some change, and probably the welfare system of the more developed nations is/was on the brink of sustainability. One can only hope that the changes will be for the better. I hope that doesn't sound too much like a conspiracy theory. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick01827 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 16 hours ago, YetAnother said: he and all of us could cite a host of people saying these exact things well in advance of him plagiarizing them verbally ; must make all of us 'experts' too The same Bill Gates who wants everyone in the world to be vaccinated and chipped, you know bill Bill Gates who has all that medical expertise ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 15 hours ago, sungod said: I moved here 20 odd years ago because the place was not normal..... "the times they are a changin"................ but not quite the way i would have liked. guess its all about the common good marching to a different beat not so easy nowadays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 "working from home will stick with society for a long time" Rubbish. How many out of Thailands official workforce can do their jobs from home? If you work for let's say an insurance company it will probably work out. You just need a proper internet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg O Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Excellent read and so true , why are the so called leaders (they're not leading they're dictating) and experts so easily misled and afraid to stand clear and get on with it. Afraid of being critisized or losing face , huge egos or what ? People that are afraid to go out are welcome to stay home, hope they do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradise Pete Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 16 hours ago, YetAnother said: he and all of us could cite a host of people saying these exact things well in advance of him plagiarizing them verbally ; must make all of us 'experts' too Gates has been talking about pandemics for years. He's been thinking about the ramifications for longer than that. If he's saying something it's not likely to be "plagiarism", but rather something of which he's been aware for some time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Isaan sailor Posted April 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2020 Let Bill and Melinda Gates step up and take over America’s share funding of WHO. We have kinda lost confidence in the WHO. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JCP108 Posted April 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, Ian C HH said: I can recognize and indeed love, statistics. ( No generalised statements from members about statistics being humbug please, it just shows collective ignorance of logic) The video from the two SoCal PRACTICING immunologists has very strong arguments for opening up lockdown which are based purely on international statistical comparisons,( that I can identify with) but here’s the kicker that I’m hoping somebody can answer in this forum hopefully without conspiracy theories or flippant remarks. - IF these Doctors are even HALFWAY correct and we COULD possibly control the inevitable deaths at 0.1% rather than the current 0.3%, through SELECTIVE precautionary measures, then WHY is total lockdown the preferred government route when politicians, of ALL people, would know the bankruptcies, to individuals, to businesses in general and to whole NATIONS for a generation to come that it will cause. ? Do we hate big business SO much? One possible answer is found in the election cycle. Politicians focus a lot of energy on staying in power (for example, getting re-elected in the next election). While the lockdown policy might not be logical and soundly based on valid science, the voters are not logical, informed actors. So, I assume lockdown policies are largely in effect due to the politicians thinking that that action will seem more satisfying to the voter than not doing them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Paradise Pete said: Gates has been talking about pandemics for years. He's been thinking about the ramifications for longer than that. If he's saying something it's not likely to be "plagiarism", but rather something of which he's been aware for some time. i guess he is not aware that a small portion of his billions could eradicate Hep C in 3 months ? If he or anyone can ever give me an answer to why he does not do that..... then i will not despise the guy edit: ian c hh ? hey look, i even found a statistic from WHO now WHO could ever not believe them? Hepatitis C - World Health Organization www.who.int › Newsroom › Fact sheets › Detail Jul 9, 2019 - Globally, an estimated 71 million people have chronic hepatitis C virus infection. A significant number of those who are chronically infected will develop cirrhosis or liver cancer Edited April 25, 2020 by rumak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barmbeker Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 hours ago, eddiebat said: Uncle Bill Gates Hey Uncle Bill with your Demonic plans To shoot up the tribes and destroy all the clans Bringer of Death you’re not of the Lord I’ll seek you out by the light of my sword. Hey Uncle Bill with your cauldron of crud Your evil vaccine will not touch my blood. For I stand encircled, shielded in light In tune with the Spirit, prepared for the fight. Hey Uncle Bill evil demon be gone Back to the darkness from where you spawn. Glorious Universe hear Humanity yell Condemn Uncle Bill to the Gates of Hell. By the Universe for the Universe 24/ 4/ 20. Euthanize Uncle Gates Eradicate Narcissistic Insane Corporate Scum Get help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barmbeker Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, phantomfiddler said: What virus outbreak ? I don,t know anyone who has been affected by it ???? except of course by the restrictions ! Ooooooh...you don't know anyone personally? Then it must be ahoax! I have never seen a blue whale! Pretty sure they exist, though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 13 hours ago, redwood1 said: Plenty of Thai women have been wearing the masks for years already....I dont care for them at all myself.. Is that the masks or the women????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigilante Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 16 hours ago, sungod said: I moved here 20 odd years ago because the place was not normal..... ..and to get away from Bill Gates and his ilk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Barmbeker said: Ooooooh...you don't know anyone personally? Then it must be ahoax! I have never seen a blue whale! Pretty sure they exist, though! please see post # 77. maybe you can answer the 71 million dollar question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barmbeker Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, mick01827 said: The same Bill Gates who wants everyone in the world to be vaccinated and chipped, you know bill Bill Gates who has all that medical expertise ???? Citation, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Surasak said: Is that the masks or the women????? depending on what they have eaten...... i sometimes request they wear a mask 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barmbeker Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, rumak said: please see post # 77. maybe you can answer the 71 million dollar question I can't! Mostly because I am not Bill Gates, nor do I have his resources! I wish I would! ...but what the ... has that to do with the post I replied to and my reply to that ppost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranshoko Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 hours ago, rtco said: Pig sick of phrases line this + lockdown and self-isolation and social distancing ... they have run their course. Everything will go back to the way it was with only passing adherence to whatever measures the "junta" decide to impose You think so? How long will it take in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lensta Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, recom273 said: Indeed. Trying to apply for my 12 month extension was murder back in March, the IO mumbling behind a half useless paper mask. You never know, Thailand could go to Paperless, online Visa applications maybe, shudder to think, indian call centers. My favorite is when you see people on a motorcycle wearing a mask but no helmet. So their thought must be that they don't want to die of covid 19, but it is ok if their head is smashed into the road. Go figure??? As the saying goes "You can't fix stupid" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaopad999 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Personally I think curfews will be the norm for many years to come in Thailand. But I'd say it will be between midnight - 4am. Not sure if I'd be entirely happy with it, but it wouldn't exactly ruin my life as I don't care for nightlife. Moving forward, I'm certainly going to be one of those people who will wear facemasks every time I go out from now on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Vigilante said: ..and to get away from Bill Gates and his ilk. seems like THEY are the virus without a cure. powerful .......... big brother on steroids like the animals whose habitat is ever shrinking.............free spirits are running out of space. i too came here to get away, but alas, globalism has spread without interruption. No vaccine for the disease that has enveloped humanity. "honey, get ready for the tin foil hat comments" ???????????????????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Barmbeker said: I can't! Mostly because I am not Bill Gates, nor do I have his resources! I wish I would! ...but what the ... has that to do with the post I replied to and my reply to that ppost? everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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