Thailand’s ‘new normal’ will last beyond lockdown, says Taweesin

[mauGR1]

1 minute ago, Fairynuff said:

Nobody likes them but they’re designed to save our lives,

Just stay at home then, just be aware that the starving millions could be knocking at your door some day.

I won't bother to discuss Trump's idiotic statements, sorry.

[Odysseus123]

7 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

And Greta ? What will she say now ?

Yes..I forgot that you are a climate change denialist as well..tho' what Greta Thunberg has to do with the present situation is beyond me.

 

As I said congruence is the key.

[mauGR1]

5 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

Yes..I forgot that you are a climate change denialist as well..tho' what Greta Thunberg has to do with the present situation is beyond me.

 

As I said congruence is the key.

Ahh, so you accuse me of being a climate change denialist, on the covid topic, and then you say that congruence is the key.

Well done.

[Odysseus123]

5 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Ahh, so you accuse me of being a climate change denialist, on the covid topic, and then you say that congruence is the key.

Well done.

Well you bought up Greta Thunberg ...is she a specialist in Covid-19?

 

No..I didn't think so..

 

I think it's time to end this conversation.don't you?

 

Please remember that congruence is the key..

[andy72]

the new normal

 

after lock down Thailand will rely on domestic tourism till at least 31st July

 

No one is coming till after that

 

The VISA EXEMPTION till 31st speaks of that

 

Edited April 25, 2020 by andy72

[mauGR1]

2 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

Well you bought up Greta Thunberg ...is she a specialist in Covid-19?

 

No..I didn't think so..

 

I think it's time to end this conversation.don't you?

 

Please remember that congruence is the key..

Welcome to my ignore list, my pleasure.

[Odysseus123]

4 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Welcome to my ignore list, my pleasure.

"Flow my tears..."

[Truth Will Set You Free]

Why is the government talking about reopening when the country still have confirm cases? When there are no cases then they can discuss reopening but if all the other countries around Thailand is still infected, how are they going to restart when they can not get tourist or do exports/imports? 
 

what they should put in law to help their people is they freeze all payments of rent, utilities, loans and other payments until they can determine reopening the country. If the landlords, utilities companies and banks cannot survive, then they need to justify why they cannot. What they don’t have, they cannot miss because they never had it. 
 

It’s a win win for everyone, especially the poor. 

[Expat Brad]

13 hours ago, Retarded said:

Compare to China Thailand seems to be the heaven of freedom. I am so flaggabasted to communicate with a Chinese. It's like talking to Martian. No concept of outside world. China is No. 1, that's all they know. 

And American's believe that they, are Number 1 ????

[Expat Brad]

5 minutes ago, Truth Will Set You Free said:

Why is the government talking about reopening when the country still have confirm cases? When there are no cases then they can discuss reopening but if all the other countries around Thailand is still infected, how are they going to restart when they can not get tourist or do exports/imports? 
 

what they should put in law to help their people is they freeze all payments of rent, utilities, loans and other payments until they can determine reopening the country. If the landlords, utilities companies and banks cannot survive, then they need to justify why they cannot. What they don’t have, they cannot miss because they never had it. 
 

It’s a win win for everyone, especially the poor. 

Many industries and businesses should reopen. For gods sake, 56 deaths out of a population of 65 million is hardly worth the economic and social problems it is now causing. They keep playing down the comparisons between global influenza deaths and COVID19 however, the facts are that more people have died from influenza, even during the same 3-4 months!!!

[TeaMonkey]

19 minutes ago, Truth Will Set You Free said:

Why is the government talking about reopening when the country still have confirm cases? When there are no cases then they can discuss reopening but if all the other countries around Thailand is still infected, how are they going to restart when they can not get tourist or do exports/imports? 
 

what they should put in law to help their people is they freeze all payments of rent, utilities, loans and other payments until they can determine reopening the country. If the landlords, utilities companies and banks cannot survive, then they need to justify why they cannot. What they don’t have, they cannot miss because they never had it. 
 

It’s a win win for everyone, especially the poor. 

 

From January 2006 to December 2011, an annual mean of 399,853 deaths occurred in Thailand, with an average of 13,554 (3.4%) underlying pneumonia and influenza deaths.

 

An average of 45 people are killed in Thailand daily road accidents.

 

51 people in total killed by covid-19

 

Better keep the country locked down!

Edited April 25, 2020 by TeaMonkey

[talahtnut]

I am not here to live a normal life, I'm sent here on a mission.

[talahtnut]

20 minutes ago, TeaMonkey said:

 

From January 2006 to December 2011, an annual mean of 399,853 deaths occurred in Thailand, with an average of 13,554 (3.4%) underlying pneumonia and influenza deaths.

 

An average of 45 people are killed in Thailand daily road accidents.

 

51 people in total killed by covid-19

 

Better keep the country locked down!

51 fatalities does seem a rather small number.

Suspiciously small to me, hope I'm wrong.

[fabman5]

Good video,  Doctors in America actually asking questions for a change.

https://youtu.be/xfLVxx_lBLU

[andy72]

By 

57 minutes ago, Expat Brad said:

14 hours ago, Retarded said:

Compare to China Thailand seems to be the heaven of freedom. I am so flaggabasted to communicate with a Chinese. It's like talking to Martian. No concept of outside world. China is No. 1, that's all they know. 

And American's believe that they, are Number 1 ????

India is Also Number One 

Germany
England

Iran

The  list of the deluded is endless Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Catholicism, Buddhism Hinduism.

 

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BUT on the Bright side Lock down has surely saved a lot of lives in Thailand 
A massacre of death and casualties

 

1. During the annual “Seven Dangerous Days” from April 11 to 17, 3,338 road accidents resulted in 3,442 people injured and 386 dead,
2. In 2018, when 418 people died during Songkran

Even Covid could not have don't that in 7 days 

[rabang]

1 hour ago, Truth Will Set You Free said:

Why is the government talking about reopening when the country still have confirm cases? When there are no cases then they can discuss reopening but if all the other countries around Thailand is still infected, how are they going to restart when they can not get tourist or do exports/imports? 
 

what they should put in law to help their people is they freeze all payments of rent, utilities, loans and other payments until they can determine reopening the country. If the landlords, utilities companies and banks cannot survive, then they need to justify why they cannot. What they don’t have, they cannot miss because they never had it. 
 

It’s a win win for everyone, especially the poor. 

I think the country should open only after people stop dying so we can all be safe.

[Marcus Atwood]

8 hours ago, Spock said:

America's handling of the virus has been appalling and Trump has been at his most absurd worst throughout the crisis. Australians do not wear masks and the country has one of the lowest rates of infection in the world.

Australia is a fairly insignificant country with a tiny GDP and a population that is roughly 1/3 that of Thailand. The US has a GPD that is 14x that of Australia and a population that is 13x. The United States is the economic mecca of the universe and without the United States, Australia would literally be nothing. You can sit there from behind your computer screen and spew hatred towards the United States and Trump-bash all day long but the reality is that your country would be a blip on the radar of humanity without the United States. 

 

America is the glue that holds the world together and as a result, Americans make more than 405 million long-distance business trips per year. This means about 1.1 million people are traveling for business every day in the U.S. The Big Apple – New York City ( where the vast majority of coronavirus cases are ) – is the most common business travel destination on planet Earth with heavy traffic going to and from Shanghai, China.  Australia.....??? not so much the "business hot spot" for international travel that the US is.

 

Shutting down the United States is not something to do lightly as doing so has devastating economic consequences that will lead to global instability and financial ruin ( particularly for low GDP countries like Australia and Thailand that simply cannot print money to bail themselves out ). For example, because of the global shutdown, Thailand is a few steps shy from becoming the next Venezuela.

 

Australia is a very siloed and isolated country with only two major economic hubs, Sydney and Melbourne. The US has at least 50 major economic hubs sprawled all over the United States, making it much more conducive to the spread of a virus throughout the population.

 

America has a huge population relative to Australia and a massive shortage of testing kits as a result of the CCP actively smuggling medical equipment out of the United States 2 months prior to create a supply chain shortage that they could then exploit for profit. The US has thus limited testing to only those that are elderly and sick which heavily skews the data unfavorably. Australia, much like Germany, has a surplus of testing kits and has thus been testing a much higher percentage of their youth. Testing lots of young people will definitely skew the death rate % results in your favor. Not to mention, the majority of coronavirus cases in Australia came from overseas and the majority of the overseas travelers were young. This was not the case in America where the average age of international travelers was 52.

 

Also, the antibody tests results that have been recently released, tell me that this entire coronavirus fiasco is a complete over reaction (i.e., 13.9% of New York residents are already carrying antibodies for Covid-19) which means that over 6 million Americans likely have the virus already and that the death rate is realistically only 0.75% which is far better than Australia's death rate which of 1.2%.

 

There are also three 3 strains of the coronavirus. A, B, C. C is the most deadly and the strain that is currently the most prevalent in the United States. Strain A is in China, Thailand and Australia and is less deadly. Different strains with virulence variance means we can't accurately compares countries. The death rate % is going to be much higher in countries that have the more virulent strains.

 

Australia is not at war with China. America is. This complicates things and begs the question if the virus was placed in the United States artificially. The US is investigating China over the coronavirus, may go to war with China over this, and they are suing China for 6 to 20 trillion dollars in damages and plan to seize all Chinese assets in Europe, America ( and yes, Australia, because ... guess who owns Australia?... America ) if the Chinese don't pay up.

 

President Trump has done an amazing job thus far. The situation is extremely complex. Please stop bashing America and President Trump. You do not understand the American people and why we voted him into office and you clearly do not understand the importance of America to the world and why our dynamic is entirely different than that of Australia.

 

Bottom line is that the state of Hawaii is literally more relevant than Australia. California, a single state inside the United State, has a GDP that is literally 2x your entire country lol. 

 

The coronavirus has been hyped by the prophets of doom controlled by the CCP to advance their totalitarian agenda. Push back or experience a complete financial collapse, hyperinflation, and a likely totalitarian government that follows. Stop bashing America. They are quite literally your only hope and the only people that will come to rescue your country when it needs help ( and it's going to need a lot of 'economic' help very soon ).

 

[FarFlungFalang]

2 hours ago, talahtnut said:

I am not here to live a normal life, I'm sent here on a mission.

You're here to assist Jake and Elwood?Excellent!

[ajarnmarc]

23 hours ago, poohy said:

This mask thing is going to be  painful thais love them

 

But really what the hell is he saying apart from that

 

I agree, I have seen a huge change in the way people are wearing them now. It's like a new fashion statement to them. 21 years ago Thailand passed the law that motorcyclist must wear a helmet when operating a motorcycle, and since then that law has hardly been adhered to by the locals. So in the past few years the men in brown decided that all riders must wear a helmet, yet that adjustment to the law is still widely ignored. Yet with the face mask, you can easily see the same motorist driving their motorcycles with the face mask, but still without the helmet. Conclusion is, Thai's will do what they like, but it's not easy to get them to do what they don't. I don't see them doing away with the face mask anytime soon, and when it does take place, I feel as though it will be looked upon negatively if foreigner go without. I am already seeing the local express their thoughts about foreigners being outside, washing their vehicle or doing garden work, or even riding a bicycle. They have stopped and stated something to me several times, in Thai language and then driven off shaking their heads. We know they like to throw their seniority around, where ever and when ever they can. Wearing a mask will just give them that edge to state something at will, not likely they will pass up this angle, as it relates to interactions with an expat or tourist.

[DrTuner]

What, a Thai mentioned a farang instead of spewing out a homemade idea? 

 

Ok it was the man with the money, Old Bill, but still, the wonders never cease. Next thing you know they might get ideas about democracy. Naughty naughty.

[Andrew65]

23 hours ago, smedly said:

the only consideration will be how to get out of paying people 5k baht a month for the next 12 months

I hope not, but things could get seriously ugly with several million out of jobs, and bankruptcies, in many countries. We're gonna be living in some very "interesting times".

[Hawkeye Newman]

8 hours ago, malibukid said:

America is really deleted up.  full of morons who voted for a moron. it's doomed.  about time for them to wake up, but i doubt even this will change things.  so far 50,000 dead.  hey let's go to the beach.

I always find it ironic that any Brit or Euro on this forum can spout whatever piece of generalized rubbish about Americans--full of morons, supposedly--with apparent impunity, while a Yank spouting the same about British or European people would almost certainly incur a stern warning or have his post deleted for the obvious trolling that it is. There is absolutely nothing substantive about this post, it's a pitiful appeal to facile sentiment, nothing more, and that would be fine, to my way of thinking, if only the forum rules were applied equitably. Not to mention that Yank-bashing on TVF has become so predictable it amazes me how no one seems to tire of it, though a moldier piece of bread can scarcely be imagined. At least put some thought into it.

 

 

Edited April 25, 2020 by Hawkeye Newman

[Fairynuff]

5 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

Yes..I forgot that you are a climate change denialist as well..tho' what Greta Thunberg has to do with the present situation is beyond me.

 

As I said congruence is the key.

She’s a part of his conspiracy theory 

[Andrew65]

20 minutes ago, Hawkeye Newman said:

I always find it ironic that any Brit or Euro on this forum can spout whatever piece of generalized rubbish about Americans--full of morons, supposedly--with apparent impunity, while a Yank spouting the same about British or European people would almost certainly incur a stern warning or have his post deleted for the obvious trolling that it is. There is absolutely nothing substantive about this post, it's a pitiful appeal to facile sentiment, nothing more, and that would be fine, to my way of thinking, if only the forum rules were applied equitably. Not to mention that Yank-bashing on TVF has become so predictable it amazes me how no one seems to tire of it, though a moldier piece of bread can scarcely be imagined. At least put some thought into it.

 

 

...up until quite recently it was Brit-bashing, same-same.

[Fairynuff]

23 minutes ago, Hawkeye Newman said:

generalized rubbish about Americans

Just perhaps they bring it on themselves? Or perhaps the generalized rubbish is based in reality?

[Fairynuff]

2 hours ago, Marcus Atwood said:

The United States is the economic mecca of the universe and without the United States, Australia would literally be nothing.

And then you wonder why there is so much anti American sentiment the world over. This IS why. The only people who think America is the centre of the universe are Americans.

[Fairynuff]

4 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

"Flow my tears..."

Those who bleat about their ignore list are generally too obsessed to actually use it in case they miss someone talking about them.

[Andrew65]

1 hour ago, Fairynuff said:

And then you wonder why there is so much anti American sentiment the world over. This IS why. The only people who think America is the centre of the universe are Americans.

Firstly I'm not anti-American, I have lots of American friends.

One of them agreed with me that in the last 20 years +/-, lots of other countries have actually caught up with America as far as standard of living etc. Something that was apparent in recent times when Mr Trump said he wished America could get more migrants from places like Norway. The reality being that many Norwegians have as good or better lives than many Americans, so why move to America? (Unlike in the post-war years).

As for anti-American sentiment, who has been the face of America for the last 3 years?

Edited April 25, 2020 by Andrew65

[Fairynuff]

22 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

As for anti-American sentiment, who has been the face of America for the last 3 years?

Precisely 

[Odysseus123]

4 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

She’s a part of his conspiracy theory 

Ah!

 

I should know better than to stand in the way of a good,all encompassing,conspiracy theory-they are the bee's knees of circular logic on the internet.????