Phuket's dragonian lockdown

[Sharp]

1 hour ago, KarenBravo said:

You first say that there are asymptomatic people who are infected and show no signs of infection, which is great reason why the lock-down has to be strict. Then, you describe the lock-down as a joke.

 

Maybe you should spend some time thinking things through.

So you  think the measures and how they are being implemenTed are acceptable balanced and not overkill in anyway??

 

This i find extremely hard to believe if your being honest Karen.

 

[KarenBravo]

40 minutes ago, Sharp said:

So you  think the measures and how they are being implemenTed are acceptable balanced and not overkill in anyway??

 

This i find extremely hard to believe if your being honest Karen.

 

The proof that these measures have worked is that deaths in Thailand are only in double digits. Phuket has had only a single death. You are confusing cause and effect. You think that because there have been relatively few infections, the measures are too strict. Have you ever thought that maybe the reason that there have been fewer infections is because these measures have been so strict.

 

There is only going to be one chance at getting rid of this virus and I'd rather they do it overly strict than not strict enough.

 

If you want honesty, how about showing some yourself. You are obviously not concerned with your own safety, nor anyone elses. You would rather have your old, comfortable life back, even if it means other people can potentially become infected and die. Very selfish.

[LivinginKata]

Wife says Thai news reports say most tambons open 1st May. But Bangla area closed off in Patong. Nothing yet on English news. 

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-tambon-lockdown-lifted-apart-from-five-key-areas-75885.php

[Sharp]

5 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

The proof that these measures have worked is that deaths in Thailand are only in double digits. Phuket has had only a single death. You are confusing cause and effect. You think that because there have been relatively few infections, the measures are too strict. Have you ever thought that maybe the reason that there have been fewer infections is because these measures have been so strict.

 

There is only going to be one chance at getting rid of this virus and I'd rather they do it overly strict than not strict enough.

 

If you want honesty, how about showing some yourself. You are obviously not concerned with your own safety, nor anyone elses. You would rather have your old, comfortable life back, even if it means other people can potentially become infected and die. Very selfish.

Firstly I'm not trying to get into an argument but what I will say is

 

The bullet was dodged not because of the measures in place but the fact the testing was put in place too late.

 

Hundreds of Wuhan Chinese landed in Phuket over Xmas and new year mixing with all other tourists and residents let alone Chinese New Year and not much thought given on any virus testing

 

I propose many many people had symptoms Jan thro Feb and later who either went back to their provinces or returned to their own countries and the ones left here their own iummne systems delt with it before the mass testing started.

 

As for getting rid of the virus only a vaccine or herd immunity will do that not getting locked up.

 

I'll quote a Doctor friend of mine who works in a private Phuket hospital.

Its like checking to see whos wet a month after the Tsunami went through!  They survived...!!! Maybe not a perfect example of the situation but I think u get the  idea.

 

I personally think any death is sad and unfortunate but when this all rinses out reports coming to light are stating it will be on par or less than Flu or Influenza and dont see the same measures in place  for them.

 

Only difference....MSM promoting Fear of the unknown.

 

On conclusion you have your opinion as do I nothing to do with selfishness.

 

Stay well.

[Sharp]

22 minutes ago, LivinginKata said:

Wife says Thai news reports say most tambons open 1st May. But Bangla area closed off in Patong. Nothing yet on English news. 

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-tambon-lockdown-lifted-apart-from-five-key-areas-75885.php

tried to translate best I can

ด่วน # Urgent ???? # Meeting resolution  Phuket Communicable Disease Committee No. 23/2020, April 28, 2020, the meeting considered‼ ️  #Open boundaries between all sub-districts

 #Except‼ ️ Areas that are still at risk of an outbreak  Of the disease or found 5 cases of Covid-19 infections
 As follows

 1. Bangla Road, Patong Subdistrict, Kathu District

 2. Village No. 2, 3 and 5, Ban Bang Tao, Choeng Thale Sub-district, Thalang District, Phuket Province

 3. Routes in and out of Prachasamakhee Village, Village No. 2, Ko Kaew Subdistrict, Mueang Phuket District

 All 3 points define measures ❎ # close the area, have access screening, proactive screening and strictly refrain from unnecessary residence.

 The points 4 and 5 consist of

 4. Village No. 2, Soi Bangchee, Ratsada Subdistrict, Mueang District, Phuket Province

 5. Chao Fa Garden Village, Wichit Subdistrict, Mueang District, Phuket Province

 By specifying measures‼ ️ # strictly abstaining from unnecessary housing and proactive screening
 By asking people to follow strict public health guidelines, which are  Wear masks, wash hands frequently, and keep social distance.

 However, Phuket  Will carry out the preparation of announcements / orders for further enforcement

 Phuket Public Relations Office Photo / News

[Agusts]

19 hours ago, KarenBravo said:

You first say that there are asymptomatic people who are infected and show no signs of infection, which is great reason why the lock-down has to be strict. Then, you describe the lock-down as a joke.

 

Maybe you should spend some time thinking things through.

Yes there are asymptomatic people but what has banning alcohol or blockading small towns, closing beaches will do, not much....

I totally agree with many other regulations in place, like social distancing rules, people should keep away from each other and wear mask and use sanitizer entering shops and closure of risky businesses,  those are the main reasons for the virus slow spread, the rest is just flexing muscles by power hungry authorities who have no clue or logic and trying to scare people into compliance...!

 

 

[stevenl]

44 minutes ago, Agusts said:

Yes there are asymptomatic people but what has banning alcohol or blockading small towns, closing beaches will do, not much....

I totally agree with many other regulations in place, like social distancing rules, people should keep away from each other and wear mask and use sanitizer entering shops and closure of risky businesses,  those are the main reasons for the virus slow spread, the rest is just flexing muscles by power hungry authorities who have no clue or logic and trying to scare people into compliance...!

 

 

See blockading small towns ans closing risky businesses, it prevents the spread from beyond that area.

[Agusts]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

See blockading small towns ans closing risky businesses, it prevents the spread from beyond that area.

Well, that's fine but if you use that logic why not close the streets and even lock you in your house, how far do you go....  those blockades are just for us, many people with friends in right places and also others under guise of so called essential workers get through and spread whatever they like...

 

The island is closed,  isn't that enough,  provinces are closed everywhere else only Phuket suffers from this draconian sub-district restriction....

 

And now Patong: Bangla Rd is said to be risky area and stay closed,  so what does that mean, is whole of Patong or just one street Bangla under lockdown... !? And where is this virus hiding in Bangla after it was closed to even foot traffic for 1.5 months, and disinfected from top of the lamp posts to sewers twice...! And as we know not many people actually live in that road..., this virus must be very clever if it is still lurking in there... !?  ????

 

 

[stevenl]

36 minutes ago, Agusts said:

Well, that's fine but if you use that logic why not close the streets and even lock you in your house, how far do you go....  those blockades are just for us, many people with friends in right places and also others under guise of so called essential workers get through and spread whatever they like...

 

The island is closed,  isn't that enough,  provinces are closed everywhere else only Phuket suffers from this draconian sub-district restriction....

 

And now Patong: Bangla Rd is said to be risky area and stay closed,  so what does that mean, is whole of Patong or just one street Bangla under lockdown... !? And where is this virus hiding in Bangla after it was closed to even foot traffic for 1.5 months, and disinfected from top of the lamp posts to sewers twice...! And as we know not many people actually live in that road..., this virus must be very clever if it is still lurking in there... !?  ????

 

 

Won't get involved in your rant, but will clarify one thing, if they say Bangla is closed they mean Bangla is closed, not Patong.

[pagallim]

So, my wife tells me that having got people excited yesterday by each sub district asking them to register if they want to their home province, that has been scrapped until 31st May (or a seperate order from national government).

 

Apparently more than 20,000 people registered.   There are going to be a lot of angry people today.

[PST]

The PM late last night ordered a continuation of lockdown until 31st May, so Tambons in Phuket will remain closed/locked until further notice.

[MJKT2014]

On 4/24/2020 at 11:00 PM, Sharp said:

What are your thoughts

[Sharp]

8 minutes ago, MJKT2014 said:

Relaxing morning coffee ruined.....Boring looking over the fairway with no players spooning their Tshots..lol..

[Sharp]

28 minutes ago, PST said:

The PM late last night ordered a continuation of lockdown until 31st May, so Tambons in Phuket will remain closed/locked until further notice.

Milk just gone off in my coffee

[pagallim]

1 hour ago, PST said:

The PM late last night ordered a continuation of lockdown until 31st May, so Tambons in Phuket will remain closed/locked until further notice.

I'm not sure that you are correct there.   Province lockdown was a decree from government.   Tambon lockdown was a local decision by Phuket's Governor.   I would expect there to be official clarity later today.

[PST]

1 minute ago, pagallim said:

I'm not sure that you are correct there.   Province lockdown was a decree from government.   Tambon lockdown was a local decision by Phuket's Governor.   I would expect there to be official clarity later today.

It's currently all over the news, both local and Countrywide. There may well be an announcement later, however it seems the PM has pulled the rug from under the Provinicial Governors feet regarding local rules.

[madmitch]

2 minutes ago, PST said:

It's currently all over the news, both local and Countrywide. There may well be an announcement later, however it seems the PM has pulled the rug from under the Provinicial Governors feet regarding local rules.

Well that should be good regarding the tambon closure. What's also annoying is that I gave some beers away in anticipation of being able to restock on May 1st. Now down to my last ten beers and no wine.

[PST]

1 minute ago, madmitch said:

Well that should be good regarding the tambon closure. What's also annoying is that I gave some beers away in anticipation of being able to restock on May 1st. Now down to my last ten beers and no wine.

I would say bad, as the PM now has control of any decisons made by Provincial Governors. He has over ruled the Phuket Governor and stated and signed a decree that Tambons remain locked until further notice. 

[madmitch]

1 minute ago, PST said:

I would say bad, as the PM now has control of any decisons made by Provincial Governors. He has over ruled the Phuket Governor and stated and signed a decree that Tambons remain locked until further notice. 

He hasn't. Tambon closure is not a nationwide directive. It may even be limited to Phuket.

[PST]

1 minute ago, madmitch said:

He hasn't. Tambon closure is not a nationwide directive. It may even be limited to Phuket.

It was limited to Phuket, not Nationwide, correct. As from late last night the PM has ordered that any decisions made at Provincial level are not going ahead until further notice. Its all over several news sources.

[PST]

The order will last from May 1 until May 31.

This means that relief and easing measures set to be introduce by various governors around the country, including Bangkok, may be in jeopardy as it is now unclear whether the governors will continue to enjoy the autonomy that they have experienced so far.

[madmitch]

2 minutes ago, PST said:

It was limited to Phuket, not Nationwide, correct. As from late last night the PM has ordered that any decisions made at Provincial level are not going ahead until further notice. Its all over several news sources.

We're all speculating really. We'll find out tomorrow no doubt.

[PST]

2 minutes ago, madmitch said:

We're all speculating really. We'll find out tomorrow no doubt.

not really speculating, as it's been approved by the PM. Hopefully we will know more asap.

[ChipButty]

On 4/27/2020 at 7:03 PM, Psimbo said:

I have seen a number of people I know who are not in need of assistance in a couple of queues- it's just wrong. There's a lot of selflessness out there at the moment bu there's a lot of selfishness as well.

You are right Im afraid to say, could be the original balloon chasers that have resided in Rawai for years

[ChipButty]

3 hours ago, pagallim said:

So, my wife tells me that having got people excited yesterday by each sub district asking them to register if they want to their home province, that has been scrapped until 31st May (or a seperate order from national government).

 

Apparently more than 20,000 people registered.   There are going to be a lot of angry people today.

My wife also tell me people have already registered to leave and people are kicking off on FB they just want to go home and some cant afford to stay here

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, PST said:

The PM late last night ordered a continuation of lockdown until 31st May, so Tambons in Phuket will remain closed/locked until further notice.

That is your interpretation. Wait for clarification would be good.

[PST]

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

That is your interpretation. Wait for clarification would be good.

The order will last from May 1 until May 31.

This means that relief and easing measures set to be introduce by various governors around the country, including Bangkok, may be in jeopardy as it is now unclear whether the governors will continue to enjoy the autonomy that they have experienced so far.

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, PST said:

The order will last from May 1 until May 31.

This means that relief and easing measures set to be introduce by various governors around the country, including Bangkok, may be in jeopardy as it is now unclear whether the governors will continue to enjoy the autonomy that they have experienced so far.

Which is far from the same as 'tambons will remain in lockdown' as you said in the post I reacted to.

[PST]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Which is far from the same as 'tambons will remain in lockdown' as you said in the post I reacted to.

Not really, as Tambons are currently locked, and 'Tambons in Phuket will remain closed/locked until further notice.' as i stated. If you can show me anything that says they will re-open at midnight tonight as planned i would be grateful

[zzzzz]

36 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

My wife also tell me people have already registered to leave and people are kicking off on FB they just want to go home and some cant afford to stay here

14,000 registered to leave Phuket

my $.05

the island, except for a few places, will be open tomorrow

anxious to visit tops again and get some meat    LOL