Jump to content



Trump 'not interested' in reopening U.S.-China trade deal after report of Beijing discontent


webfact

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, WalkingOrders said:

China is done. The time to push them hard is right now. On all policy fronts. One more push against a US destroyer over that fake 9 dash line and its time to blow them out of the water. Send that aircraft carrier of theirs to Davy Jones' locker! Time to stop playing with these tyrants!

A bit drastic there WO. Could be the start of WW111. Russia would side with China and Iran also. Would not be able to get any oil out of the middle east. The US would then have to befriend Venezuela or invade them to get their hands on the black stuff. Have to turn to Muskie for advice on electrical military hardware.

 

Might it not be a better idea for the US to do a bit more manufacturing and a bit less militarising. The US has no gold of its own so perhaps they should have a rethink.

 

And this has absolutely nothing to do with Trump. The dark shadow people behind the curtains are pulling the strings.

 

 

  • Like 1
  • Sad 1
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Thanks, but not only incorrect, your same arguments would be even more applicable to western countries, USA at the foremost.

 

Nobody unleashed a virus, but I do agree that the China origin will not help China. Although they seem to have a big headstart with recovery on the western countries.

"orange man bad, republicans bad, CCP good" 

 

This sums up this guys posts

  • Like 1
  • Sad 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Wouldn't all that also refer to US? Perhaps except for the last bit on losing soft power due to Trump's inane foreign policies. All said, both countries are at different stage of distress and it is really a zero sum game to go after each other in the middle of a pandemic. 

get back to me when china's young kids stop pissing and <deleted>ting in the middle of the road

  • Like 2
  • Confused 1
  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Wouldn't all that also refer to US? Perhaps except for the last bit on losing soft power due to Trump's inane foreign policies. All said, both countries are at different stage of distress and it is really a zero sum game to go after each other in the middle of a pandemic. 

No it would not. The time to turn up the heat on China is now. They have been exposed as filthy totalitarians who are a threat to the entire world. Trump needs to turn that knob up a few more notches. 

  • Like 2
  • Confused 1
  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

37 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

No it would not. The time to turn up the heat on China is now. They have been exposed as filthy totalitarians who are a threat to the entire world. Trump needs to turn that knob up a few more notches. 

If Trump and yourself included want to be an enemy of China, then China is a threat. If Trump want to cooperate, instead of blaming every of his domestic issues on China, then China is his chance for better prosperity for US and their citizens. To be an enemy, you don't want China to be strong and if you want China to be part of your prosperity, you work together and wish them stability, competent and successful. Former President Jimmy Carter was a wise man. 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

The origin of the Spanish flu is contested, and very likely started in China. 

 

 

You want cooperation yet China has been the least cooperative and least transparent throughout this whole ordeal. 

The origin of the Spanish Flu was in the USA. This is well documented and studied by experts. In fact, with a high degree of probability, they identified the source as a turkey farm in Pennsylvania. So please, stop rewriting history.

 

Even more laughable is the idea that China unleashed the virus as an act of war. Against their own people? Really? This has been an existential threat to the Communist Party of China - no way they would do it.

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, sukhumvitneon said:

get back to me when china's young kids stop pissing and <deleted>ting in the middle of the road

Is this troubling so much to refrain from posting sensible and intelligent discourse. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Bloomberg and Reuters reported that they will have a decline in exports - China reported an INCLINE in exports. 

 

How am I denying what they report? China is vested in nefarious reporting to keep their currency and economy stable. 

 

Any more water you feel like carrying? 

look further into the article.  WHY did exports rise?  and will that continue?

 

 

The increase was driven in part by rising exports of medical equipment, traditional Chinese medicine and textiles including masks. China exported millions of tonnes of medical products worth 71.2 billion yuan ($10 billion) in the March-April period, according to the customs agency. The daily export value of medical supplies jumped by more than three times last month.

 

Some economists also attributed the rise in exports to factory closures elsewhere, leading to a surge in import demand, just as China’s manufacturers reopened after extended shutdowns due to the virus outbreak.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-economy-trade/chinas-april-exports-rebound-but-outlook-remains-grim-idUSKBN22J0A6

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

of course, it's only a deal, right?

it's not a ratified treaty.

either side can tear it up as "worst deal ever."

 

the next president, if not trump, can ignore it, rescind it, or withdraw.

trump, if re-elected, and no longer needs to play to his base, can cancel it.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

51 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

of course, it's only a deal, right?

it's not a ratified treaty.

either side can tear it up as "worst deal ever."

 

the next president, if not trump, can ignore it, rescind it, or withdraw.

trump, if re-elected, and no longer needs to play to his base, can cancel it.

You think Trump will be satisfied with only two terms? If he wins, he will "suggest" changing the constitution to allow him another term.

  • Like 2
  • Sad 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

Nancy Pelosi did no such thing.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article242171026.html

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trumps-false-claims-about-pelosi-and-chinatown/

 

Trump ignored his own advisors, intelligence agencies and health experts back in January.

Blame cannot be shared equally by both sides. Only one side had the power to do anything.

I advise you to fact check anything that Trump says.

You also were not quite accurate in your rebuttal.

From your factchecker -

Pelosi urged people to shop and eat there at a time when tourism was suffering because of the novel coronavirus

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

You also were not quite accurate in your rebuttal.

From your factchecker -

Pelosi urged people to shop and eat there at a time when tourism was suffering because of the novel coronavirus

Lock-down had not started anywhere in the States at that time, yet, she still encouraged need for prevention where as Trump was saying it "was under control". Don't forget, this is the man that denied docking to a ship carrying infected US citizens just so that it wouldn't mess the numbers up.

Yes, there is blame on both sides with hind-sight, but, you can't compare Pelosi's stand point to Trump's. Pelosi knew that this virus was dangerous and said so. Trump ignored it and tried to wish it away.

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

51 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Fair enough.  Back in February though, Nancy Pelosi downplayed Wuhan virus and invited everyone to SF Chinatown to celebrate.  And in NYC the mayor also invited New Yorkers to ride the subway, and a mass gathering.  And Congress? In February their focus: the impeachment process.  Blame can be shared on both sides.

And trump was playing golf and saying it was all a hoax and under control. Deven Nunes also was saying to go to restaurants.

 

So they were all just following the president that it was under control. Unless of course he lied.

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

The origin of the Spanish flu is contested, and very likely started in China. 

 

 

You want cooperation yet China has been the least cooperative and least transparent throughout this whole ordeal. 

While it's unlikely that the “Spanish Fluoriginated in Spain, scientists are still unsure of its source. France, China and Britain have all been suggested as the potential birthplace of the virus, as has the United States, where the first known case was reported at a military base in Kansas on March 11, 1918

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.