Iran hails arms supply to Palestinians against 'tumor' Israel

[Baerboxer]

Where is the UN condemnation for one member state declaring the wish to exterminate another member state.

 

Why are Russia and China so quiet in condemning this vile religious fanatic's outburts?

 

Why is Islam so cosey with dictatorial political doctrines such as communism and in the past National Socialism and Fascism?

 

The Middle East has been carved up by Empires and Great Powers for centuries. But some want to pretend history is different. 

[448glb]

14 hours ago, sirineou said:

How about 

D : None of the above. 

Within the context of this thread.

Iran has been there for thousands of years, Israel has appeared lately and started to grow. to the detriment of the surrounding body.

What doe that remind you off?

 

Please move to Iran 

[DefaultName]

Iran or Israel.

 

Who would I rather have as a neighbour..........  

[dexterm]

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So if Israel is a tumor what is Iran? 

 

A skin tag? 

A hemorrhoid? 

A booger? 

 

 

Zionism is the tumor, not the Jewish people.
The racist supremacist ideology,Zionism, is the force that eats up healthy Palestinian land, destroys by ethnic cleansing most of the residents, and dominates any that remain by refusing to allow them to function properly.
Tumor is the perfect analogy.

[bodga]

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So if Israel is a tumor what is Iran? 

 

A skin tag? 

A hemorrhoid? 

A booger? 

 

 

It's a  blooody cancer that needs serious treatment, no cure yet though.

[dexterm]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

Where is the UN condemnation for one member state declaring the wish to exterminate another member state.

 

Why are Russia and China so quiet in condemning this vile religious fanatic's outburts?

 

Why is Islam so cosey with dictatorial political doctrines such as communism and in the past National Socialism and Fascism?

 

The Middle East has been carved up by Empires and Great Powers for centuries. But some want to pretend history is different. 

They wish to destroy the racist supremacist ideology of Zionism not the Jewish people, and so do I. At the moment Israel is an apartheid country, which restricts immigration to one race/religion only, does its best to ethnically cleanse non Jewish residents who have been there for millenia, and makes one group dominant over another based purely on race. That's got to end. South Africa was still a country after apartheid.

Edited May 23, 2020 by dexterm

[ThailandRyan]

17 hours ago, billd766 said:

An independent country who are up against Israel (nuclear weapons), USA (also nuclear weapons) who, certainly under Trump, support Israel 100% and turn a blind eye to its illegal repression of the Palestinians in Gaza. Most of the other Gulf countries who are armed and supported by the USA and the EU and who support the USA by providing bases for the USA to use.

Iran should not be around, Moses and the Israelites were told to completely destroy all those tribes completely, but the Israelites did not kill all.  When Saul was told by God to destroy another tribe, he also did not do as he was told.  Read Exodus.  It is because of this that we are troubled with another religion and region in the world who believes in their on secular religious laws. 

 

As Rodney King said after being beaten nearly to death by LAPD officers years ago "Can't we all just get along", the world would be a much nicer place, but then everyone has there own beliefs and that's why we have disagreements and wars, plus someone always wants what someone else has....brothers kill brothers....

 

Ok, off my pulpit now.  Enjoy your lives as you lead them and try to control them, which is unfortunately a 2 steps forward and 3 steps back process......

[dexterm]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

From Day One of the partitioning of Palestine, the Arabs have vowed to wipe out Israel. It's convenient, because it draws attention away from their own failings.

Looking at the Nobel Prizes in the sciences, such as physics, chemistry and medicine, less than 15 million Jews have generated over 200 Nobel Prize winners. In contrast, there are 422 million Arabs, or 1.8 billion Muslim adherents who have managed to produce just two Nobel Prize winners in those fields. More in the BS areas, Arafat with a Nobel Peace Prize, yeah right.

Looking at those numbers, I'd say the main tumor in the Middle East is Arab ignorance and bloody-mindedness. To me, Jews have far more value to humanity.

 

You dont award the right to steal someone else's land by the number of Nobel prize winners.

Besides you conveniently ignore the Arab World's contribution to modern science.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/feb/01/islamic-science

 

Yeah, but apart from algebra, algorithms, astronomy, trigonometry and chemistry as well as major advances in medicine, astronomy, engineering and agriculture..what have the Arabs ever done for us?

[AgMech Cowboy]

 

16 hours ago, sirineou said:

If that was a legitimate claim  then it should apply to all . it should apply to native Americans , Greeks should be making claims to Anatolia.  etc etc.  

It is a legitimate claim and there is no mention of aboriginals or Greeks in the article. (etc, etc)

[dexterm]

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The Jewish people returning to their ancient homeland after thousands of years in the diaspora, subject to unending persecution, pogroms, and even a holocaust. A LIBERATION movement. Not exactly making the desert bloom but not far off. Creating one of the most advanced nations in the world, albeit very small. An oasis of democracy in a region of autocracy.

 

Something the people of Iran could use. 

The guy stepping off the plane at Ben Gurion airport who has never seen the place before may share the same religion as some people who used to live there 2,000 years ago, but he is not an indigenous inhabitant returning.

 

It is unjust that anyone who can claim to be Jewish (even by intermarriage and conversion; they could even be atheists!) has the right to automatic Israeli citizenship and an instant stolen Palestinian land package in the West Bank. Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump could do so! But the Palestinian who actually owns the land, still has the title deeds and keys, must live in a refugee camp a 20 minute drive away from his ancestral home but is forbidden from ever visiting there. That is pure racism. That is the wrong that I object to.

 

It need not be this way. In a 50:50 Jewish non Jewish bicameral parliament in a single state, or some sort of confederation like the USA,UK,or EU, Israel could still be a haven for genuinely persecuted Jews along with a plethora of marriage,family reunion, study, retirement, work, investment, religious, cultural visas etc.

 

Because of apartheid 4.5 million people have their lives completely controlled by another group who have all the guns and power. But illegally occupied Palestinians have no vote in saying how they are governed.

 

Iran is brave enough to call Israel an apartheid country whose racist regime must end.

Edited May 23, 2020 by dexterm

[Rimmer]

Conspiracy troll post removed

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, dexterm said:

You dont award the right to steal someone else's land by the number of Nobel prize winners.

Besides you conveniently ignore the Arab World's contribution to modern science.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/feb/01/islamic-science

 

Yeah, but apart from algebra, algorithms, astronomy, trigonometry and chemistry as well as major advances in medicine, astronomy, engineering and agriculture..what have the Arabs ever done for us?

You seem to ignore the fact those scientific achievements were made before Islam took hold of the Arab world. After that, anything to do with scientific knowledge atrophied. Everybody was too busy developing hadith out of the Koran.

So you are saying it's OK for the Arabs to wipe out Israel? On that precedent, Red Indians would be quite justified in exterminating everyone who came from the Old World.

Face facts. If it was not for the oceans of oil Arabs sit on, the rest of the world would not blink an eye if the whole racial group was to disappear off the face of the earth.

I've had the dubious pleasure of working with Arabs. Along with a number of different nationalities. Difficult to find a more deluded and illogical race.

 

 

[dexterm]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

You seem to ignore the fact those scientific achievements were made before Islam took hold of the Arab world. After that, anything to do with scientific knowledge atrophied. Everybody was too busy developing hadith out of the Koran.

So you are saying it's OK for the Arabs to wipe out Israel? On that precedent, Red Indians would be quite justified in exterminating everyone who came from the Old World.

Face facts. If it was not for the oceans of oil Arabs sit on, the rest of the world would not blink an eye if the whole racial group was to disappear off the face of the earth.

I've had the dubious pleasure of working with Arabs. Along with a number of different nationalities. Difficult to find a more deluded and illogical race.

 

 

>>So you are saying it's OK for the Arabs to wipe out Israel?

 

No I am not. I am talking regime change. Read what I wrote above more slowly.

 

I too have lived, worked and travelled with Iranians, Palestinians, other Arabs and Israeli Jews. The majority have been kind, helpful and hospitable people. All depends on what sort of tinted spectacles through which you want to view the world I suppose.

[puipuitom]

20 hours ago, billd766 said:

An independent country who are up against Israel (nuclear weapons), USA (also nuclear weapons) who, certainly under Trump, support Israel 100% and turn a blind eye to its illegal repression of the Palestinians in Gaza. Most of the other Gulf countries who are armed and supported by the USA and the EU and who support the USA by providing bases for the USA to use.

Why the Israeli's developed nuclear weapons? Since Mohammed the Muslims jell: kill the Jews, kill the Jews. However, the wallet of the Muslim rulers decided; when the infidel Jews would pay a high tax, they were allowed to live, as second rang citizens. In the 1920's it started again: kill the Jews, kill the Jews. After the 1948 war nearly no Jews were left in the Arab world - leaving all behind- forget even any democratic rights. In Israel, Arabs are in Parliament, with all their possessions still with them. The refugees are supported by UNWRA with a US$ 1.3 BILLION a year, and the Jewish refugees... nothing. Palestinians could work in Israel till in the '90s, but... Hamas only wanted: Kill the Jews, so.. finished, Philippinos, Vietnamese and Thai took their work place. Did any oil state do anything to absorb the Arab refugees ? NOTHING. Only money to get explosives to hijack Western Planes.

[puipuitom]

5 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

Why is Islam so cosey with dictatorial political doctrines such as communism and in the past National Socialism and Fascism?

 

The Middle East has been carved up by Empires and Great Powers for centuries. But some want to pretend history is different. 

The Middle East is carved up only since 1918, end of WO1 by the British and the French, not by any other. Before.. it were all dictatorial Muslim states

Why Nazi-supporters: becasue.. they would exterminate the Jews. Ask why the Great Mufti of Jerusalem was supported so much by Hitler c.s. 'Kill the Jews... "

Edited May 23, 2020 by puipuitom

[sirineou]

4 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

 

It is a legitimate claim and there is no mention of aboriginals or Greeks in the article. (etc, etc)

There is no mention of you either .Yet here you are

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, dexterm said:

>>So you are saying it's OK for the Arabs to wipe out Israel?

 

No I am not. I am talking regime change. Read what I wrote above more slowly.

 

I too have lived, worked and travelled with Iranians, Palestinians, other Arabs and Israeli Jews. The majority have been kind, helpful and hospitable people. All depends on what sort of tinted spectacles through which you want to view the world I suppose.

I suppose if someone is lobbing rockets into your civilian population, the tinted spectacles soon come off. You are kidding yourself if you think Arabs  are hospitably inclined towards Israel. If it didn't exist, they probably would have to invent it to direct attention away from their own incompetence.

I was working with three Arabs in 1967. Lazy pricks, they spent most of their time trying to figure out how to get someone else to do their work for them. They were absolutely convinced the Egyptian army was hammering on the gates of Jerusalem, when almost the entire Egyptian air force had been destroyed on the ground, and the army was getting the s##t kicked out of it in the Sinai. Still claiming Egypt had won months afterwards. I guess that informed my view Arabs are irrational. Reinforced by other experiences later on.

The only Iranian I have ever met was in Australia, an engineer who was petrified he would be deported back to Iran. Not a good advertisement for his home country.

Presumably you have good experiences in this field. I haven't. On the other hand, every Jew I have met has impressed me with their intelligence. Perhaps that's a curse in a world where envy is a dominant emotion. How else do you explain a failed painter and quondam agronomist presiding over the Holocaust?

[dexterm]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I suppose if someone is lobbing rockets into your civilian population, the tinted spectacles soon come off. You are kidding yourself if you think Arabs  are hospitably inclined towards Israel. If it didn't exist, they probably would have to invent it to direct attention away from their own incompetence.

I was working with three Arabs in 1967. Lazy pricks, they spent most of their time trying to figure out how to get someone else to do their work for them. They were absolutely convinced the Egyptian army was hammering on the gates of Jerusalem, when almost the entire Egyptian air force had been destroyed on the ground, and the army was getting the s##t kicked out of it in the Sinai. Still claiming Egypt had won months afterwards. I guess that informed my view Arabs are irrational. Reinforced by other experiences later on.

The only Iranian I have ever met was in Australia, an engineer who was petrified he would be deported back to Iran. Not a good advertisement for his home country.

Presumably you have good experiences in this field. I haven't. On the other hand, every Jew I have met has impressed me with their intelligence. Perhaps that's a curse in a world where envy is a dominant emotion. How else do you explain a failed painter and quondam agronomist presiding over the Holocaust?

You seem to have proven my point about viewing Middle Eastern politics through tinted spectacles.

 

Fortunately most countries' foreign policies aren't dictated by anecdotal personal casual encounters, but by what concrete measures will ensure permanent peace ..the only kind worth having.

 

The racist supremacist ideology of Zionism is not going to create permanent peace in the Middle East..just the opposite in fact..resentment and continued conflict. So  Iran is correct in pointing this out.

Edited May 23, 2020 by dexterm

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, dexterm said:

You seem to have proven my point about viewing the world through tinted spectacles.

 

Fortunately most countries' foreign policies aren't dictated by anecdotal personal casual encounters, but by what concrete measures will ensure permanent peace ..the only kind worth having.

 

The racist supremacist ideology of Zionism is not going to create permanent peace in the Middle East..just the opposite in fact..resentment and continued conflict. So  Iran is correct in pointing this out.

I think it was Golda Meir who said there would only be permanent peace in the Middle East when the Arabs loved their children more than they hated Jews.

Racist supremacist ideology of Zionism? Sounds like you've been reading the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a fabricated anti-semitic piece of garbage. All Jews in Israel want is to be left in peace.

Iran is a repressive fundamentalist nation, working as hard as possible to obtain nuclear weapons and missiles, and contesting for leadership of the Arab world with Saudi Arabia. My religion is better than yours, Shia vs Sunni. Israel is a democracy.

Thanks for confirming your intelligence is on a par with the race and nation you support.

[rhodie]

1 hour ago, dexterm said:

So  Iran is correct in pointing this out.

Why do you have so much hate. A man wants to exterminate a country and you support that! Really. I am appalled. You may have personal reasons, but let it go.

[Dumbastheycome]

On 5/22/2020 at 8:33 PM, Jingthing said:

The topic is Israel. Study the history of the Jewish people in the diaspora before denouncing the need for Israel to exist. The Iranian leadership is basically supporting another genocide of the Jewish people and it disgusts me to hear westerners supporting that kind of total evil. 

Actually the topic is  Iran and Palestinian and the Iranian objection to the Israeli regime.

 

[lee b]

This guy has the brains of an AMOEBA. He is crazy as you can be.

[Thorgal]

On 5/22/2020 at 8:33 PM, Jingthing said:

The topic is Israel. Study the history of the Jewish people in the diaspora before denouncing the need for Israel to exist. The Iranian leadership is basically supporting another genocide of the Jewish people and it disgusts me to hear westerners supporting that kind of total evil. 

 

Was King Cyrus of Persia (Iran today) that brought back the Jews exiled to Babylon in 538 BC. Moreover he allowed them to build back the 2nd Temple of Jerusalem by 515 BC.

 

The Iranian leadership today is no different than King Cyrus of Persia. Much tolerance for the Jewish people, no tolerance for the Zionist entity.

[Thorgal]

15 hours ago, Lacessit said:

From Day One of the partitioning of Palestine, the Arabs have vowed to wipe out Israel. It's convenient, because it draws attention away from their own failings.

Looking at the Nobel Prizes in the sciences, such as physics, chemistry and medicine, less than 15 million Jews have generated over 200 Nobel Prize winners. In contrast, there are 422 million Arabs, or 1.8 billion Muslim adherents who have managed to produce just two Nobel Prize winners in those fields. More in the BS areas, Arafat with a Nobel Peace Prize, yeah right.

Looking at those numbers, I'd say the main tumor in the Middle East is Arab ignorance and bloody-mindedness. To me, Jews have far more value to humanity.

 

 

Strange, you’re using Arabic numbers (AD 500) to express your point.

 

Moreover, you use the basic principles of duality to prove your point. The teachings of basic principles of duality originate to Zoroaster, an Iranian prophet (1000 BC - 1500 BC).

 

Most Nobel Price winners used Arabic numbers and duality to prove their points too.

[Lacessit]

5 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

Strange, you’re using Arabic numbers (AD 500) to express your point.

 

Moreover, you use the basic principles of duality to prove your point. The teachings of basic principles of duality originate to Zoroaster, an Iranian prophet (1000 BC - 1500 BC).

 

Most Nobel Price winners used Arabic numbers and duality to prove their points too.

You were doing quite well with your argument until you misspelled Prize.

[Lacessit]

5 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

Was King Cyrus of Persia (Iran today) that brought back the Jews exiled to Babylon in 538 BC. Moreover he allowed them to build back the 2nd Temple of Jerusalem by 515 BC.

 

The Iranian leadership today is no different than King Cyrus of Persia. Much tolerance for the Jewish people, no tolerance for the Zionist entity.

Ancient history has nothing to do with modern hatreds.

The Iranian leadership is a religious oligarchy. They have as much tolerance for Jews as I have for stupid posts.

[TPI]

The moderators should have closed this topic for comments! All religions are political, QED = insane!

[Jingthing]

11 hours ago, lee b said:

This guy has the brains of an AMOEBA. He is crazy as you can be.

I wouldn't go that far. The Death to Israel garbage has proven a very effective way to deflect from any potential for internal rebellion against the horrific Iranian regime. The Iranian people deserve much better! 

 

Of course many countries play the same kind of dark game but that's for other topics. 

[Pedrogaz]

Well nee new Iranian weapons better be more effective than the firework missiles, RPGs and stones that the Palestinians have at the moment.