'What planet are they on?' No respite for UK's Johnson and aide

[evadgib]

Just now, jimmyswale said:

Daily Star. Today. 

Talk Radio. Today.

 

[7by7]

7 hours ago, evadgib said:

Were any open over Easter during lockdown & if so how do you propose he get there? This eyesight lark is being milked. I took it to mean that his answer was that he wasn't feeling 100% and that he simply flummoxed the reply during a 90 min unprecedented grilling.

 

In the same circumstances who wouldn't?

So were you unsure whether or not you were fit to drive you would take your 4 year old son on a 60 mile round trip to find out? Thus putting your son's life and the lives of other road users at risk?

 

If Cummings thought he was possibly unfit to drive he should not have driven at all until he was sure. 

 

This whole 'test drive' thing smells of a hastily thought up excuse for what was actually a lockdown breaking family day out.

[jimmyswale]

2 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Talk Radio. Today.

 

Kinnock doesn't stick - he wasn't infected ,  he didn't stay the night and  he got his collared felt. Oh and he didn't lie on the national stage. Oh look this guy has deleted this tweet I wonder why !

 

[7by7]

7 hours ago, evadgib said:

Eyesight? nausea? headache? galloping gut rot? Has anyone reading this that has ever been Ill not suffered one or more of these afterwards?

Afterwards of what?

 

But whatever the cause of these symptoms, no sane person would drive whilst suffering anyone of them.

 

Driver SHOCK - Ill motorists 'could be as dangerous as drink drivers'

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What is more shocking is that five per cent of motorists had driven with impaired vision

 

[GroveHillWanderer]

40 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Nearly all the Conservative MPs who have supported Cummings resignation are elected in 'Remainer' areas and they are all in on the scheme together.

I'm calling bulls**t on that one. I just checked the list of those calling for his resignation, then I chose 6 of them at random and checked the way their constituencies voted in the referendum.  Five out of six came from areas that voted in favour of leaving, by the following percentages:

 

Thurrock 72%
Carlisle 60%
Rugby 56.7%
Poole 58.2%
Waveney 62.9%

 

Only one of those I looked at (York) voted in favour of remaining, by 58%.

 

So unless my random choice was totally unrepresentative, I reckon you're just making stuff up. Can you provide evidence of your claim?

[twocatsmac]

7 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

Instead of the childish insults, why not try and engage in adult debate?

 

Why not try and produce some evidence to refute what the Mail and Telegraph have reported?

 

Your approach is very similar to another member's when he is confounded by facts. Are you by chance related?

Not insults Watson, Sherlock is impressed you read all the rags, you sound a right bag of laughs. 

Try joined up writing next week and Miss will give you a gold star. 

Ive little interest in your newspapers and don’t believe every written word, you really need to get out more.

Your infatuation with Tory rags and Tory MPs doesn’t impress anyone either.

On fact basis, you’re lost. Your faith is in 40 Tory MPs, did you know there’s another 300 plus of the bugg ers?

Go to the 7-11, purchase a large Chang, sit on the step outside and chill.

Sherlock worries about Watson sometimes.

[7by7]

5 hours ago, evadgib said:

Try quoting #315 instead of the version that hasn't survived the edit window (which is what the window is for!)

 

& what has cunards flagship got to do with it?

 

 

(????)

 

Not the first time you have edited a post after it has been quoted and responded to!

[evadgib]

14 minutes ago, jimmyswale said:

Kinnock doesn't stick - he wasn't infected ,  he didn't stay the night and  he got his collared felt. Oh and he didn't lie on the national stage. Oh look this guy has deleted this tweet I wonder why !

With Alistair Campbell back-tracking and deleting tweets showing he broke lockdown after ripping into DC we could bounce these between us all day ????

[Phil McCaverty]

38 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

the arrogant assxxx don't want to apologize and the "I am sorry" words not part of his vocabulary either, the job must be very rewarding for him not to quit,,, still don't understand why BJ backs him, there must be lots of skeletons

That's all it would have taken. A truthful explanation of his actions, a sincere apology and his resignation. All over in 30 minutes and the nation could have got back behind the government to continue the fight against Covid-19.

 

Instead we have this shambles, the nation has lost confidence in the government, and the government are at each others throats.

[7by7]

3 hours ago, Logosone said:

Yes, he should have left the eyesight thing out, even if true.

 

That the inherent risk of the 'poor eyesight went for a test drive' line was not obvious to him must be due to the time pressure he was under when drafting the statement.

 

 

He'd had at least two days in which to draft it!

 

Of course, when this story first broke on Friday had he done the same as others who have been caught out breaking the lockdown rules and held his hands up, admitted he was wrong and apologised for breaking the rules he helped to draft, then this whole affair would have been wrapping fish and chips by Saturday. (If the chippies were open!)

 

Instead, he let Downing Street lie on his behalf (or instruction?) and when those lies were exposed made a feeble attempt to justify himself.

 

Before anyone asks what these lies were, I have already listed some of them, but will do so again to save you going back to look for them:

• Cummings and his family were self isolating at their London home when they were already in Durham;
• that Cummings and his family had not visited Barnard Castle;
• that Cummings' father had not been spoken to by Durham police.

[bannork]

36 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

So were you unsure whether or not you were fit to drive you would take your 4 year old son on a 60 mile round trip to find out? Thus putting your son's life and the lives of other road users at risk?

 

If Cummings thought he was possibly unfit to drive he should not have driven at all until he was sure. 

 

This whole 'test drive' thing smells of a hastily thought up excuse for what was actually a lockdown breaking family day out.

It's akin to saying, ' I'm not sure if I'm too pist to drive, better go for a spin to find out. Sorry if I kill anyone on the way. Oh! By the way, hop in son, take the wheel if dad finds it too much.'

[7by7]

51 minutes ago, ukrules said:

This whole episode is really exposing the 'remainers' in government, those who would extend the Brexit transition period beyond the end of the year as their first step towards reversing it.

 

This is what they're fighting for.

 

 A significant proportion of those calling for him to resign are Brexiteers.

[CG1 Blue]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

Yes, I read the press; all of it, left, right and centre. Do I believe what they say? Not always, but when they're all reporting the same facts it's difficult not to!

 

When an MP expresses an opinion, regardless of their party, I believe that they hold that opinion; even if I disagree with it.

 

Yes, it is widely known that Cummings' arrogant, abrasive nature has made him enemies, both in the party and amongst Downing Street staff. My obvious point was that, despite desperate attempts by you and others, to convince everyone that this is a plot dreamt up by his Remainer enemies to discredit Cummings, the fact is that it is not just his Remainer enemies in the party who are calling for his resignation; many Brexiteer former supporters of him are as well.

 

Mirror? No, most of the quotes I have used to support my arguments have come from the Mail and the Telegraph.

 

A deliberate tactic, I admit. Done to eliminate the argument that my sources are anti Tory, anti Brexit, PC, lefties and so biased. Obviously hasn't worked for you as you seem to think I exclusively read and quote from the Mirror!

 

Next time, click on the link to discover the source; then you wont make such a fool of yourself.

People may not be aware of this, but the editor at the Daily Mail was replaced by staunch remainer Geordie Greig. So any argument suggesting the DM is pro-Brexit but anti-Cummings is no longer valid. 

[7by7]

40 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

Not insults Watson, Sherlock is impressed you read all the rags, you sound a right bag of laughs. 

Try joined up writing next week and Miss will give you a gold star. 

Ive little interest in your newspapers and don’t believe every written word, you really need to get out more.

Your infatuation with Tory rags and Tory MPs doesn’t impress anyone either.

On fact basis, you’re lost. Your faith is in 40 Tory MPs, did you know there’s another 300 plus of the bugg ers?

Go to the 7-11, purchase a large Chang, sit on the step outside and chill.

Sherlock worries about Watson sometimes.

 Yep, the two of you surely must be related.

[Phil McCaverty]

Just now, CG1 Blue said:

People may not be aware of this, but the editor at the Daily Mail was replaced by staunch remainer Geordie Greig. So any argument suggesting the DM is pro-Brexit but anti-Cummings is no longer valid. 

And the Telegraph?

[twocatsmac]

58 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

People may not be aware of this, but the editor at the Daily Mail was replaced by staunch remainer Geordie Greig. So any argument suggesting the DM is pro-Brexit but anti-Cummings is no longer valid. 

It’s mainly a women’s comic and girls also read it. It is one of the largest daily publications specifically aimed at women.

If it was printed in Thai script ladyboys would read it but well spotted mrs CG1 Blue.

Edited May 27, 2020 by twocatsmac

[Nigel Garvie]

48 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

People may not be aware of this, but the editor at the Daily Mail was replaced by staunch remainer Geordie Greig. So any argument suggesting the DM is pro-Brexit but anti-Cummings is no longer valid. 

And this is what your so called "Staunch remainer" indicated.

" The FT reported that the Mail would also back no deal rather than Remain if a second Brexit referendum was called." https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/geordie-greig-says-265-advertisers-have-come-back-to-daily-mail-under-his-editorship/

 

The man that Geordie Greig replaced - the supremely vile Paul Dacre who devoted his last 3 years to a "Hate the immigrants" campaign for the brainless- had gone over the score. His boss is just a money man, he could see that he was toast, so he dumped him.

 

Has it occurred to you that a few leading Tory papers have swung away from hard Brexit. It appears that they are worried by the glazed eyed zeal of Cummings (And the inadequacy of his Boris puppet), and the road he is taking. They have woken up to the fact that a hard Brexit would trash the economy. However along with their venal greed, they are not stupid. No point in tax avoidance if your income falls so far that you no longer pay much tax on it anyway. The Sun lost 68 million last year I believe.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Nigel Garvie

[7by7]

23 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

People may not be aware of this, but the editor at the Daily Mail was replaced by staunch remainer Geordie Greig. So any argument suggesting the DM is pro-Brexit but anti-Cummings is no longer valid. 

 Yes, he supported Remain in the referendum, and then supported May's Brexit Deal. I have seen nothing to indicate that the Mail has since changed to supporting Remain. After all, they supported the Tories last December and their front page after polling day was

 

 

And what about the Telegraph? Supported Brexit in 2016, vociferously opposed May's deal, supported Johnson's leadership campaign and the Tories in the election and as far as I can see haven't changed their stance since; unless you know different?

[7by7]

10 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

Bingo! Another one. 

Its all about brexit, the tards have risen from the dead. 

If you and your fellows didn't keep banging on and on about this being some sort of dastardly plot by Remainers to get rid of Cummings then Brexit wouldn't be part of the conversation at all!

 

 

[hotandsticky]

1 minute ago, 7by7 said:

If you and your fellows didn't keep banging on and on about this being some sort of dastardly plot by Remainers to get rid of Cummings then Brexit wouldn't be part of the conversation at all!

 

 

 

 

Yes it would - you remainers can't leave it alone.

 

That one's over, you lost remember, and every time you post about it, you lose again. 

[kingdong]

2 hours ago, pineapple01 said:

I just dont like the look of him. I like Boris he reminds me of Happy Clown.Thats about how i way up any Leaders these days.

Well done sir an intellectual jewel in a grubby setting.

[kingdong]

23 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

If you and your fellows didn't keep banging on and on about this being some sort of dastardly plot by Remainers to get rid of Cummings then Brexit wouldn't be part of the conversation at all!

 

 

Your mob called it on,can,t believe how this matter is dragging on for so long.

[7by7]

24 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Yes it would - you remainers can't leave it alone.

 

That one's over, you lost remember, and every time you post about it, you lose again. 

 

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

Your mob called it on,can,t believe how this matter is dragging on for so long.

 

It was Brexiteers who brought Brexit into this. All myself and others have done is show that your accusations of this being a Remainer plot are complete ballocks.

[kingdong]

2 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

 

 

Only one of those I looked at (York) voted in favour of remaining, by 58%.

 

 

About right,we all know about the grand old duke of York who had 10,000 men,the dirty <deleted>.

[kingdong]

7 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

It was Brexiteers who brought Brexit into this. All myself and others have done is show that your accusations of this being a Remainer plot are complete ballocks.

Anything you say guv,we,'re still leaving though, or do you feel this and the big red bus are grounds for another referendum?

[bannork]

38 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Yes it would - you remainers can't leave it alone.

 

That one's over, you lost remember, and every time you post about it, you lose again. 

This thread is about Cummings blatantly breaking government instructions for the population. Then making up some cock and bull nonsense/ lie about testing his eyesight on a public road, endangering other drivers, but it just happened to be his wife's birthday.

Then there's his lie about predicting the corona virus on his blog by adjusting the date.

But Boris can't sack him because he's incapable of acting as PM on his own.

Pathetic.

 

[7by7]

26 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Anything you say guv,we,'re still leaving though, or do you feel this and the big red bus are grounds for another referendum?

See, you simply cannot resist dragging Brexit into this!

 

I have given my reasons for having a final referendum on the deal once it's finalised at length in topics which are actually about Brexit. You attempts to goad me into dragging this topic even further away from Cummings by repeating them here has failed miserably.

[david555]

Just a Breaking news from a Sky  reporter that 109 New MP's talked long time to a chief whip and even asking to bring Graham Bready in game for this case to call a  certain committee together 

 

 

more as soon it appears on internet in writing as it was just a breaking news from politic reporter 

 

The Thelegraph was quicker to put in writing 

Edited May 27, 2020 by david555

[Phil McCaverty]

1 hour ago, twocatsmac said:

Bingo! Another one. 

Its all about brexit, the tards have risen from the dead. 

In a survey today 71% of Brits think Cummings broke the rules and want him to resign.

 

Are they all remainers?

[7by7]

@twocatsmac, isn't time you logged out and let your alter ego log back in?

 

BTW, unlike you I am not able to sit on the steps of a 7Eleven drinking Chang, even if I were inclined to so do. 

 

No 7Elevens in the UK and even if there were I doubt they'd sell Chang. The only place near me I could buy Chang is the local Thai restaurant; if they weren't closed due to lockdown.

 

Rather drink TEA or any other draught bitter anyway, but if I must drink Thai lager I prefer Leo.