Pattaya: "I'm not sick and it's my right not to wear a mask" - Thai man makes a video stand at market

[Logosone]

12 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Quite a leap into the dark there..... 5,800,000 infections so far, and 357,000 dead, I bet they wished they had worn a mask, or more likely those around them had!

It's actually 5,695,000 cases and 355,688 dead GLOBALLY.

 

You want to talk "globally", sure, let's do that. The 355,688 as a percentage of the 7 billion population is 0.0045% of the global population.

 

So 99.99% of the global population have NOT died.

 

Now, I'm not saying there's zero risk. You could die of any number of reasons.

 

And you will die. Whether you wear a mask or not. You will die.

 

I'm just saying in Thailand 355,688 people have not died, globally of 7 billion people, that number has died.

 

So keep your pants on, but the mask can go off. You are almost 99% certain not to die if you don't wear a mask.

 

And as for it being the law, it's not the law where I am in Thailand.

 

 

Edited May 28, 2020 by Logosone

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, Logosone said:

It's actually 5,695,000 cases and 355,688 dead GLOBALLY.

Nope you missed some....

PS They haven't done dying yet, so incomplete numbers.

The trick is not to become one. 

Your line of thought and logic is very flawed.... 

[Phil McCaverty]

Just now, essox essox said:

even W H O does NOT know if wearing mask helps.....!!

Thailand apparently does, its the law here.

 

Fauci the US's Covid guru said yesterday that he wears a mask because its effective and urged others to do the same He also stated that hydroxychloroquine has no effect on Covid-19. France has just banned its use for Covid-19.

[Jingthing]

Masks work. 

https://coronavirus.medium.com/masks-work-cb25a52b05b1

 

In a perspective published Wednesday in the journal Science, a group of scientists write that masks are not only helpful but necessary to combat the spread of the virus from people without symptoms.

 

Edited May 28, 2020 by Jingthing

[Phil McCaverty]

7 minutes ago, Logosone said:

And as for it being the law, it's not the law where I am in Thailand.

 

Yes it is . Its a legal requirement when entering commercial premises.

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, Phil McCaverty said:

France has just banned its use for Covid-19.

UK is using remdesivir, an Ebola anti-viral to improve recovery time from Covid.

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, Logosone said:

It's actually 5,695,000 cases and 355,688 dead GLOBALLY.

 

The 355,688 as a percentage of the 7 billion population is 0.0045% of the global population.

 

So 99.99% of the global population have NOT died.

 

Jeez comparing Iceland was flawed, now you've taken it to a new level in your argument for non mask wearing

[Bkk Brian]

Some people obviously fail to see the reason for the advice from just about every country and every expert to keep at least a meter away from other people in public......airborne droplets. 

[redwood1]

47 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said:

Yes it is . Its a legal requirement when entering commercial premises.

The only place a mask must be worn is to enter 7-11, grocery store or mall...And what happens after you enter.....Well plenty of people take them off...lol

 

Take a drive around.....Non mask wearers are increasing all the time....

Edited May 28, 2020 by redwood1

[Bkk Brian]

45 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

The only place a mask must be worn is to enter 7-11, grocery store or mall...And what happens after you enter.....Well plenty of people take them off...lol

 

Take a drive around.....Non mask wearers are increasing all the time....

20,000 Baht fine in Phuket, in all areas not just in shops or malls.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Samc4 said:

No it’s actually not. The article even acknowledged that. 

Phuket Governor ordered that all residents and travellers in the province (he means ‘everyone’) must wear sanitary face masks in public spaces, at all times. Violators will face up to 20,000 baht fine, the order takes effect from today until further notice. https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/phuket-governor-enforces-wearing-of-face-masks

[Phil McCaverty]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Phuket Governor ordered that all residents and travellers in the province (he means ‘everyone’) must wear sanitary face masks in public spaces, at all times. Violators will face up to 20,000 baht fine, the order takes effect from today until further notice. https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/phuket-governor-enforces-wearing-of-face-masks

Same in Pattaya.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, KingDong75 said:

Really based on what law? 

No idea what the law was inforced but it is now illegal 

 

“Under this order, every person must wear a sanitary or cloth face mask when leaving their residences, and they must not do anything that could jeopardise public safety or spread of the virus.”

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Samc4 said:

You do understand that’s not official right. 

Its official enough to be charged by police 

 

The Frenchman, Djemouai Mhedi, 27, was detained by police on the beach road (Thaweewong Rd) near the Sea Pearl intersection.

He was taken to Patong Police Station, where he was charged with violating an order issued by the provincial communicable disease committee requiring all people to wear a face mask while outdoors - a measure against the spread of COVID-19.

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/frenchman-without-mask-arrested-in-patong-75637.php

Edited May 28, 2020 by Bkk Brian

[Phil McCaverty]

Just now, KingDong75 said:

???? I walk past cops all the time without a mask on. 

But you're not in Thailand.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, KingDong75 said:

Just walking around outside I have seen the cops passing me 3 or 4 times and I wasn’t wearing a mask. They never say anything they could care less. I had a motorcycle cop wave at me yesterday in fact. 

wow, when I said you were a rebel before you've now just proved it, cool man..............well done. Do you have a motorbike and not wear a helmet? Or do you have a car and not wear a seat belt to?

[redwood1]

13 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said:

Same in Pattaya.

Please try leaving your room and have a look around Pattaya......There is no shortage of Non mask wearers.......And on the darkside loads are not wearing masks....

[Tony125]

10 minutes ago, KingDong75 said:

???? I walk past cops all the time without a mask on. 

And depending which province your in Phuket, Chonburi, Ayuthya ect they can if they feel like it arrest you and fine you.

[yuyiinthesky]

On 5/27/2020 at 8:29 AM, ThailandRyan said:

If 99% of people do not have the virus, wearing a mask makes no sense at all.

 

That's the point.
If you are sick, influenza or whatever, then stay home or if you go out, you can wear a mask.
Otherwise, it's not only useless but also not healthy - unless you're in a polluted area and need to protect you from dust and pollution. 

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

Please try leaving your room and have a look around Pattaya......There is no shortage of Non mask wearers.......And on the darkside loads are not wearing masks....

No shortage of non helmet wearers but does not make that right. Plenty drive drunk, does not make that right either

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, yuyiinthesky said:

That's the point.
If you are sick, influenza or whatever, then stay home or if you go out, you can wear a mask.
Otherwise, it's not only useless but also not healthy - unless you're in a polluted area and need to protect you from dust and pollution. 

Having the flu you know your sick. Nearly half of COVID sufferers do not know they are sick and show no symptoms, thats why this virus is unique, hence masks

[yuyiinthesky]

7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why wear a mask 101

 

If picture does not do it for you read the science https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/05/27/science.abc6197

And what happens if the person on the left does _not_ have an infection, like 99.99...9 % of the population in Thailand?

Exactly, nothing happens, no benefit from wearing the masks, just the bad effects.

[Tony125]

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Having the flu you know your sick. Nearly half of COVID sufferers do not know they are sick and show no symptoms, thats why this virus is unique, hence masks

Up to 80% of COVID-19 Infections Are Asymptomatic, a New Case Report Says

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/up-to-80percent-of-covid-19-infections-are-asymptomatic-a-new-case-report-says/ar-BB14GB3y?li=BBnb7Kz

[ThailandRyan]

27 minutes ago, KingDong75 said:

That’s just a news article. He has no authority to make up laws ???? 

It is his province.  He does what he wants.  He was the one who sealed of the Island initially and caused all the people there to be stuck on Phuket until they re-opened the Sarasin Bridge.  Do yourself a favor and try to look at the bigger picture.  In Thailand Masks are being required for BTS, MRT, all Public Transport as well as Malls, Stores and such, either accept it or take a leap and fly the first thing smoking out of here, or join the IDGAF club and pay the fine.  Even runners at Lumpini Park are wearing them, well those few that are removing them are being told to put them back on while running or told to leave the park.  Yes some people are not wearing them, either because they have no money to buy them or like you wish to rebel, but It is not that hard to get with the program. Its a fools errand to constantly try and prove your right or be like another poster does in his continuing diatribe in trying to link an Icelandic study to the rest of the world.  Try to do some of your own research for the different provinces and you will find that some have more stringent rules in place, a few even still have an alcohol ban......

[yuyiinthesky]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Having the flu you know your sick. Nearly half of COVID sufferers do not know they are sick and show no symptoms, thats why this virus is unique, hence masks

This is not true for more and more of the population, for example all the ones which already went through the infection. Why should they wear a mask?

[ThailandRyan]

29 minutes ago, KingDong75 said:

Just walking around outside I have seen the cops passing me 3 or 4 times and I wasn’t wearing a mask. They never say anything they could care less. I had a motorcycle cop wave at me yesterday in fact. 

The wave was the same one they give in Lumpini Park, It means he see's you have no mask and to put one on....It is the wave to get your attention and then the curve of the hand towards his face.......somedays you learn something new.  Have you never had a conversation with a Thai woman who just raises her eyes up or down or just moves her head, she has just answered you in one form or another.  Learn the subtle clues.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, yuyiinthesky said:

And what happens if the person on the left does _not_ have an infection, like 99.99...9 % of the population in Thailand?

Exactly, nothing happens, no benefit from wearing the masks, just the bad effects.

Feel free to make your own risk assessments on whether you could catch it or whether you could pass it on to others, if you believe the statistics in Thailand then good for you.

 

But I've heard that argument from somebody else who was comparing a study from Iceland and using it to compare statistics for the rest of the world and failing to take into account hotspot area's, towns and cities. If your in the middle of Issan in a rice field then why wear a mask, if your in a shopping center, market, public transport any high risk then in my view its morally responsible to wear one.

 

Really depends on how you feel about personal responsibility for you and others.

[ThailandRyan]

10 minutes ago, KingDong75 said:

It is silly period and people can write that I’m selfish all they want but I’m not changing. Luckily though I’m not the only one who sees it. 

Good on you "Johnny Reb"  enjoy the fight, keep it up, one day you and the others might make a difference, or you might find out that you become ostracized for your views, and poor outlook on life, as you JDGAF about anyone other than yourself.  But hey its a free world... Hold on wait a minute if your in Thailand it is not a free world, and your rights that you believe you have, you really don't as there is still repression, media rights and human rights curtailed, amongst many other civil liberties that are gone, but hey keep believing and thinking that you are either in Europe or the US and have your inalienable rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.  Just look out for the and mines laid out for you and maybe you will survive this thing called life.  Have an awesome day, and Mask up, or not in your case.

Edited May 28, 2020 by ThailandRyan

[Bkk Brian]

15 minutes ago, yuyiinthesky said:

This is not true for more and more of the population, for example all the ones which already went through the infection. Why should they wear a mask?

How do you know if you've had it or not? 

[redwood1]

10 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is his province.  He does what he wants.  He was the one who sealed of the Island initially and caused all the people there to be stuck on Phuket until they re-opened the Sarasin Bridge.  Do yourself a favor and try to look at the bigger picture.  In Thailand Masks are being required for BTS, MRT, all Public Transport as well as Malls, Stores and such, either accept it or take a leap and fly the first thing smoking out of here, or join the IDGAF club and pay the fine.  Even runners at Lumpini Park are wearing them, well those few that are removing them are being told to put them back on while running or told to leave the park.  Yes some people are not wearing them, either because they have no money to buy them or like you wish to rebel, but It is not that hard to get with the program. Its a fools errand to constantly try and prove your right or be like another poster does in his continuing diatribe in trying to link an Icelandic study to the rest of the world.  Try to do some of your own research for the different provinces and you will find that some have more stringent rules in place, a few even still have an alcohol ban......

Just try wondering for 1 second why just about every country on earth is pushing this mask thing so hard for a disease that has a 99.98% survival rate.....It all pretty strange.....And makes no sense.......But for the New Normal or New World Order it makes a lot of sense....