Attorney General Barr says foreign groups, extremists stoking divisions in U.S. protests

[Traubert]

23 minutes ago, natway09 said:

I am sure there is a latent group in Thailand as well, ready to mobilize overnight whenever there is unrest that they can get their teeth into (for a non traceable fee of course)

Have a look at Hong Kong, it is just not in the average HKer's repetroire to resort to the violence we have seen

Quite.  Whats the purpose of the NED then Mr Aggrieved of Washington?

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

That's right. 

Does the name George Soros ring a bell? 

No, but you dragging Soros into the discussion rings a bell of a particularly nasty ideology.

 

I guess you couldn’t help yourself.

 

 

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No, but you dragging Soros into the discussion rings a bell of a particularly nasty ideology.

 

I guess you couldn’t help yourself.

 

 

Blaming s all they know and have expert in trump teachings.

[Maybole]

Joseph McCarthy is back.

[Tug]

When Barr was asked for proof none was forthcoming are we surprised that (trumps)AG wouldent or might I dare say couldn’t offer proof no I’m not surprised at all it’s been their mo since the start

[Mayhem11]

Disinformation runs rampant as this administration shambles through this disastrous lack of moral leadership. Shame.

[Susco]

Why doesn't that person in the OP looks like Trump?

 

After all, he talks like Trump, acts like Trump, is Trump's current fall boy and is Trump's personally appointed mouthpiece.

 

[bendejo]

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No, but you dragging Soros into the discussion rings a bell of a particularly nasty ideology.

 

I guess you couldn’t help yourself.

There are certain terms/names that when they suddenly pop up you know you've crossed into tinfoil hat territory.  Soros (thank Glen Beck for that one), another is AOC.  There are plenty more, but I'll let our resident Trump fans dig those up themselves.

 

It's actually entertaining, in a sick way, how they'll sometimes keep the trope but change the story behind it.  Who said conservatives don't recycle?  ????

 

 

[kingdong]

9 hours ago, Traubert said:

Quite.  Whats the purpose of the NED then Mr Aggrieved of Washington?

A ned is a Scottish hooligan.

[Andycoops]

Where is McCarthy when you need him.

Same <deleted>, different decade.

America is a failed state and I will never set foot there again.

[spidermike007]

The Trump administration has been deeply humiliated by their historically inept response to Covid. With the US nearing 2 million cases, the nation that prided itself on being so great, has been outed as being incompetent, inefficient, unaware, unwise, top heavy, and utterly incapable of dealing with a national emergency. It has left Trump naked, and ashamed, though he would never admit to such. So, they put their typical M.O. to work, and deflect, obfuscate, lie and engage in charades. 

 

The rioting and protests have served as a double whammy. They demonstrate just how unhappy, malcontent, bitter, disenfranchised, and disappointed the American people really are, with Trump, with the system, and with racism. If you want to blame anyone, it is more likely that right wing extremist groups instigated the riots, which would play right into Trumps hands. He has likely fantasized of being a heavy handed despot, and ruling his subjects with an iron fist, like some of the men he admires so much. And it is likely he has dreamed of being a wartime president. He has said as much. It would help him to address some of the deep seated inadequacies he has carried around for the past 50 years, over his five draft deferments, that he used to avoid service, at the one time in his life his nation called upon him. 

 

I think Barr has earned no credibility, as one of the worst AG's, in the nations history. So, anything he says will, and should be treated with a great deal of suspicion. First hew said foreign groups had nothing to do with influencing the election. Now, he says foreign groups influenced the rioting. Make up your mind. You seem very confused. 

[Scott Tracy]

Ah, those damned foreigners. 

[mtls2005]

On 6/5/2020 at 6:14 AM, webfact said:

"We have seen evidence that Antifa and other similar extremist groups, as well as actors of a variety of different political persuasions, have been involving in instigating and participating in violent activity," Barr said at a news conference.

 

Please feel free to share any of this evidence.

 

Let me guess...it  needs to be redacted.

 

 

[JCauto]

On 6/5/2020 at 1:14 PM, Baerboxer said:

On 6/5/2020 at 10:30 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

So let me get this right.

 

Federal prosecutors file charges against three members of a domestic rightwing extremist group, Barr responds by pointing at foreigners and Antifa.

No. That's your usual sophistry shining through.

 

Barr's comments are probably factual. Only he doesn't like others doing to the US what the US has done to others for decades.

Let's unpack this one, shall we? First of all, speaking of the ATTORNEY-GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES, you noted that his comments are "probably factual". You don't even perceive the irony of that statement - you, a supporter of the administration, even recognize that the leader of the Department of Justice doesn't tell the truth on a regular basis such that you have to characterize his simple statements as "probably factual".

Second, you note that the A-G has identified only 3 of the people arrested as "Extremist" elements among the 51 arrested, and those 3 are Right-Wing members of the "Boogaloo" movement there to stir up riots. Yet he declined to even mention Right-Wing extremism, which accounts for practically all of the terrorism-related activity in the United States for the last 10 years or more, instead using the usual euphemisms for "other" forces.

 

Third, if this is Antifa-based and -led extremism, why haven't they managed to identify any of the arrested protesters as Antifa? Why haven't they arrested the "leaders" of Antifa? Why haven't they identified the criminal network organizing and supplying "Antifa" with weapons? Because not one of those things is real. "Antifa" is not an organization, it has no leaders, it doesn't fund local cells, it has no organizational structure or hierarchy and they don't parade around with war weapons - it's an ideal to oppose fascism and gives out information and encouragement for those who wish to do so. Sure, some of those individuals take it to extremes and push their opposition to the point of violence, but as I understand it this is only acceptable according to "Antifa" guidelines if it is in direct response to aggression and violence from Fascists. And if you think punching violent fascists in the face is wrong, then we'll just have to agree to disagree on that matter. Americans used to think that way almost entirely as a country before this current regime decided to blur the lines.

So basically, in response to the legitimate and mostly peaceful protests and protesters, they've ginned up a conspiracy of these "Extreme Left Antifa" who are supposedly organizing shadowy behind-the-scenes stuff and the Administration are pushing it through a coordinated campaign of statements from government officials and their state media Fox News. They're using this to try to demonize the protests as non-peaceful and un-American and focus on the negative aspects as was the objective of these Far Right protesters all along.

This is once again something that we can observe that is consistent throughout this administration - they continuously chase these conspiracies that their opponents are supposedly hatching or the "Deep State" is implementing, and in every case these conspiracies reflect what the Right actually does. This is why they believe it so strongly - they do it all the time so assume the Left is doing it too. Perhaps they're right, but if so, the Left are clearly much more clever about it as they don't seem to get caught.

[Traubert]

On 6/6/2020 at 4:49 AM, kingdong said:

A ned is a Scottish hooligan.

National Endowment for Democracy.

 

An offshoot of the CIA.

[kevinsan]

Read Mind<deleted> by Chris Wylie. Explains it all. Esp. race amplification via social media. Real time quant psych through his company Cambridge Analytica. Brexit and Trump wins.

[Opl]

"Trump’s Own DOJ Finds No Link to Antifa In Protests"

"An NPR review of court documents for 51 individuals who are facing federal charges related to the demonstrations found no alleged connections to the anti-fascist movement. "

The only mention of an extremist group in court documents is in a case against three Nevada men who allegedly belong to the right-wing "Boogaloo" movement, which aims to incite a civil war.