Pattaya beer bar owners beg the government to let them open

[Deez]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

or you believe (like i do) that its still out there

Nobody is asking you to go out. People are asking to support their families. How do you suggest they do that while we wait until people like you think it is safe? BTS is packed, markets are packed, Makro is packed, 7-11 is packed. Should they all be closed as well until you feel comfortable with the numbers?  

[miamiman123]

All for nothing!!!

[Mattd]

1 minute ago, Deez said:

Nobody is asking you to go out. People are asking to support their families. How do you suggest they do that while we wait until people like you think it is safe? BTS is packed, markets are packed, Makro is packed, 7-11 is packed. Should they all be closed as well until you feel comfortable with the numbers?  

Exactly, it is time to move on and let people earn money.

[Deli]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

I find it strange how people somehow can comment on the Thai government not doing enough tests and thinking there are transmissions but hidden and that figures dont add up. However when it suits them they believe the government that there are no local corvid transmissions if it helps their case.

 

IMHO corvid is still out there just not found by testing and opening bars and forgetting social distancing will start a second wave. 

 

So either you believe the goverment that there is no corvid out there and we should open it all up forget about all measures and return to our previous lives or you believe (like i do) that its still out there but that the government just does not find it because of lack of testing and opening up would be a problem.

 

I too want to go back to pre corvid but I think its still too early. 

2nd wave ? There never even was a 1st swell not talking about a 1st wave. Paronia there's a lot, though

[robblok]

4 minutes ago, Deez said:

Nobody is asking you to go out. People are asking to support their families. How do you suggest they do that while we wait until people like you think it is safe? BTS is packed, markets are packed, Makro is packed, 7-11 is packed. Should they all be closed as well until you feel comfortable with the numbers?  

If they keep 1 meter distance and everyone wears a mask like in makro ando so on. No problem. But do you really think that will happen the girls amd their customers will become a hotbead of virus spreading. Then the previous lockdown was all in vain.

 

So sure open up if bars can be fined 100.000 and customers too for not wearing masks.

[BobBKK]

1 hour ago, petermik said:

This government aint interested in farang bars or entertainment 

Yea they have their own entertainment places.

[Deli]

26 minutes ago, Oldie said:

And because they also will drink they will not use any masks. And since they want to chat they will sit close together. And they might move from one bar to another and might meet many different people. 

Nursing homes are open again, Maybe a better place for you

[spidermike007]

Some reasonable and smart landlords are offering concessions on rent. Some are not. This is a tough time for a small business owner who relies on tourists. Don't know if will make a big difference without many tourists, but all should be allowed to re-open immediately. At least some of the locals could support them. Covid is gone. Deal with it. Accept it.

 

Allow the people to make a living or dig into the very deep Army coffers and support the people. Doing neither is absolutely sadistic and cruel. 

[phantomfiddler]

There should be a legal requirement to tout something as a "Pandemic" in the media. The Black Plague took out 50% of the European population. This supposed "pandemic" has taken out 0.00008% of the Thai population. How can you possibly compare the two ! In my opinion (unheeded by just about everyone) the pop-off rate should be in the 2 to 3 % rate before the entire world is made to panic and do a full stop. Next thing we will hear is Saddam tested positive ????

[bander]

Keep them closed until Covid-19 is gone.

Beer bar owners in Pattaya have been ripping off customers for decades with overpriced bar fines, lady drinks, double tabs and you name it.

The longer they close the better for beer bar "addicts" who spend all they'r money on that <deleted>.

 

[madmen]

34 minutes ago, robblok said:

Agreed, that was why in an other post i said if its just an open air bar without girls it probably safer. But with the girls.. no way. I think a majority of the people begging for the beer bars are not going there for just the beers.

Disagree , most expats are over the P4P scene in bars , buying lady drinks, ever increasing bar fines and services.

Those that got out have a gf or married. I would rather pour molten lead into my ears  than have to hear..where you from , how long you stay where you hotel, you hab lady , buy me drink!

Besides expats that are players have a black book of favs at at half the cost 

[Guderian]

If the bar beer owners think they've got it bad with rent, spare a thought for the Gogo Bar owners. What's the rent on an open-air bar beer in Naklua, maybe 5K or 10K/month? A single shop house on Walking Street can cost 100-150K/month or more, and many of the Gogo Bars occupy several of these.

[Oldie]

What can be really done with this nightlife business? Social distancing doesn't seem to be possible. Wearing masks will not be possible. And before the restrictions we had Corona already. At least what I saw here in Pattaya nobody cared. Perhaps the best would be to allow the nightlife after 6 in the afternoon and start the curfew at 5 in the afternoon.... ???? I am afraid the other option would be to ignore Corona and hope the best. 

[Colabamumbai]

May God have mercy. 

[bander]

2 minutes ago, madmen said:

Disagree , most expats are over the P4P scene in bars , buying lady drinks, ever increasing bar fines and services.

Those that got out have a gf or married. I would rather pour molten lead into my ears  than have to hear..where you from , how long you stay where you hotel, you hab lady , buy me drink!

Besides expats that are players have a black book of favs at at half the cost 

Totally agree, beer bars is for newbees who like to listen to barlady 1000 questions or play Othello game the whole night. 

I remember they asked me those questions in 1990, are they still learning from the same "How to get to know a falang" book? 

The first barlady i met 30 years ago asked me: "you hab girlfriend me?" What she was trying to ask was: "Do you have a girlfriend"

And all of them where saying "same same" all the time. "Same same you, same same me, same same Thailand".

I still don't have a clue what they try to express.

[dave moir]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

I find it strange how people somehow can comment on the Thai government not doing enough tests and thinking there are transmissions but hidden and that figures dont add up. However when it suits them they believe the government that there are no local corvid transmissions if it helps their case.

 

IMHO corvid is still out there just not found by testing and opening bars and forgetting social distancing will start a second wave. 

 

So either you believe the goverment that there is no corvid out there and we should open it all up forget about all measures and return to our previous lives or you believe (like i do) that its still out there but that the government just does not find it because of lack of testing and opening up would be a problem.

 

I too want to go back to pre corvid but I think its still too early. 

You're probably so far under the thumb that normal life and lockdown are the same thing!!! 

[Ranshoko]

This picture looks like a Farang type bar with Bar Girls probably making up the majority of staff. Too early to let these places open. However,  for Pubs solely in business for selling alcohol and food without the Bar Girls slavering about, they should be allowed to open. One thing is clear the Junta have an agenda to closed Tourist sex bars.

[kingofthemountain]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

????

 

Right... beer bars whit girls entertaining the guys. I bet no social distancing and no masks and its safer then a supermarket. Especially with girls being close to multiple guys during the day. Seems to me a high risk factor. If it is only a beer bar no girls then sure you might be right. 

So what do you think about the reopening of the massage shops

some days ago? It's ok or not? What is the risk factor behind the curtain?

[fred110]

Who is dumb enough to buy the bars?

[Don Mega]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

????

 

Right... beer bars whit girls entertaining the guys. I bet no social distancing and no masks and its safer then a supermarket. Especially with girls being close to multiple guys during the day. Seems to me a high risk factor. If it is only a beer bar no girls then sure you might be right. 

hahhahahaha, have done a few snow cones.

 

always wondered if the other fella wondered the taste.

[kingofthemountain]

1 hour ago, Bob A Kneale said:

What?  In your mind the landlords do have "infinite funds"?

At least in Pattaya most of the landlords of the beer bars

''building'' are infinitely richer than the tenants if it was your question

[kingofthemountain]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And who pays the mortgages from those "greedy Thai landlords"?

Or do the landlords just tell the banks they won't pay and the banks should ignore this?

Obviously some landlords have no mortgages and could afford it. And some beer bar owners could also afford it.

But obviously it's always so much easier to blame the others.

Obviously you don't know very well Pattaya

most of the landlords here are very wealthy families

who own a lot of land and buildings, often by inheritance

they don't have any mortgages at all

Edited June 6, 2020 by kingofthemountain

[Oldie]

8 minutes ago, Ranshoko said:

One thing is clear the Junta have an agenda to closed Tourist sex bars.

I don't have this feeling at least here in Pattaya. Since the military government many new bars opened and they also extended the opening times and even were discussing to extend them further. I think if they really want to get rid of these businesses they simply close them down. 

[Ranshoko]

1 hour ago, Deez said:

Nobody is asking you to go out. People are asking to support their families. How do you suggest they do that while we wait until people like you think it is safe? BTS is packed, markets are packed, Makro is packed, 7-11 is packed. Should they all be closed as well until you feel comfortable with the numbers?  

Shoppers in my city all wear masks in Makro, Big C, Robinson etc. There is also a requirement to sign or scan in and out. Temperature is checked before you can get in. This is still the sensible route. Give these Bars with Bar Girls an inch and they'll take a mile. Of course it needs an infected person to pass it on. If anyone thinks that Thailand is Covid free apart from the Thai coming back from overseas they are delusional. 

[ukrules]

There's only one reason to keep things closed and that's because the disease is still spreading.

 

Either they open it all up or they're caught in the lie.

[nbg]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And who pays the mortgages from those "greedy Thai landlords"?

Or do the landlords just tell the banks they won't pay and the banks should ignore this?

Obviously some landlords have no mortgages and could afford it. And some beer bar owners could also afford it.

But obviously it's always so much easier to blame the others.

In some some countries people don't have to pay mortgages to the banks at the moment. Don't know to what extend but I know for sure it applies to personal home mortgages. Banks and govts probably has a plan to pick up those losses later on but  for now at least its a relief for those who needs it

 

I'm not talking Thailand only now but imo majority of people in governments serve and think of themselves first and many only think of themselves.

Don't even want to get started on banks and insurance companies forking crooks, I have more respect for roaches

 

Stay safe out there

[GAZZPA]

3 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Many of their customers are close to begging the government to let them reopen too. With no local transmissions in a couple of weeks now, there is essentially no one out there right now for people to catch covid from, so further continued closure makes very little sense. They have zero chance of getting tourists in all the time this continues and now would seem the perfect time to allow them to open so the situation can be assessed and protocol addressed before people come back in numbers.

There are a lot of people employed by these places who need to get back to earning a living.

Some weeks ago I predicted that the virus would end not by any of the governments declaring it is safe to crack on nut by the public deciding enough is enough.. People have to eat, they have to pay for a roof over their heads and when the government offers no or little assistance people have no choice. I believe that people will take their chances, the death rate is very low and the damage being down by lockdowns is likely to be worse. So I think people are just going to say enough, back to work very soon all over the world.

[Phil McCaverty]

1 hour ago, kevinsan said:

QR codes and no false names on sign in. You must now use your real name at the bar. There, no one want to go now.

I wouldn't have an issue with that. Wearing a mask during s/t is another matter. Almost as bad as being asked to wear a condom.

[Oldie]

2 minutes ago, ukrules said:

There's only one reason to keep things closed and that's because the disease is still spreading.

 

Either they open it all up or they're caught in the lie.

They don't know because they can do only limited testing. 

[kingofthemountain]

36 minutes ago, Oldie said:

What can be really done with this nightlife business? Social distancing doesn't seem to be possible. Wearing masks will not be possible. And before the restrictions we had Corona already. At least what I saw here in Pattaya nobody cared.

Yes you get it

 

the chinese with ''their'' f....g virus were here by thousands in january

february and march, and all the places in Pattaya were packed as it was high season and life as usual

 

I have never seen or hear of the hspitals overwhelmed or people dying on the streets in thailand

like in other countries.

 

So what? How many time before admitting that the virus doesn't like the climate here and to let 

everything reopen, except the border where a filter of the quarantine is mandatory to avoid the

''import'' cases?