Popular Post webfact Posted June 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2020 Health minister appoints his chief advisor to head donation probe Bhumjaithai Party leader Anutin Charnvirakul poses during an interview with Agence France-Presse in Bangkok on April 3, 2019. – A Thai party that wants to let households grow marijuana is in demand after a hard-fought election, and its leader said April 3 that their policies must be backed by groups looking for support in coalitions. (Photo by Romeo GACAD / AFP) Thailand’s Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul’s chief advisor, M.L. Somchai Chakrabhand, has been appointed to head a committee investigating allegations that 186 hospitals under the Ministry’s supervision have accepted donations from pharmaceutical companies. The Minister said Thursday that the probe team will report directly to him. Mr. Anutin said that he is handling the case personally because the hospitals implicated in the donation scandal represent 20% of the hospitals under the Ministry’s supervision. He warned, however, that whistle-blowers may be held accountable if it is proven that their allegations are groundless. The allegations concern demands by hospital staff for donations, or kickbacks, worth 5% of the value of the products that a hospital buys from drug companies. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/health-minister-appoints-his-chief-advisor-to-head-donation-probe/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2020-06-12 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Why shouldn't hospital admin management have a commercial agreement with Pharma? Both sides benefit. It is the personal palm greasing that needs stamping out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangkokfrog Posted June 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, champers said: Why shouldn't hospital admin management have a commercial agreement with Pharma? Both sides benefit. It is the personal palm greasing that needs stamping out. I am happy to be proved wrong, but I thought this kind of thing happens with hospitals (and in some countries doctors) all over the world. To me it is the scale that matters and whether any quid pro quo asked for in return can negatively affect patients. Seems to be a nice way to get good PR about fighting corruption while turning a blind eye to any incidences closer to home. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted June 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, webfact said: Health minister appoints his chief advisor to head donation probe In any normal country, an independent person would be appointed to head such a probe investigating the possibility of fraud. You can't beat a bit on nepotism ! 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted June 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2020 Whistleblowers, if you have information that may incriminate the wrong persons say nowt! #oldfarangsmatter 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Although all Thai hospitals are pill crazy, government hospitals pass the stuff out like Halloween candy. Saw one lady leave the social security wing, with 3 cases of Gaviscon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted June 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2020 So Anutin has appointed his pal Somchai to head donation probe. Well you wont find any fairer probe than that, will you.???? 6 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobbyL Posted June 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2020 Once again, they are their own judge, jury and executioner. Any normal place would see this investigation carried out by a completely separate entity. Here it is done by the health minister's very own sidekick. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted June 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: In any normal country, an independent person would be appointed to head such a probe investigating the possibility of fraud. You can't beat a bit on nepotism ! exactly, it's like having the police investigate their own corruption or appointing party members or military to the NACC 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mr mr Posted June 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2020 i have full faith that this probe will progress without a hitch. leave no stone unturned anutin. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 4 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand’s Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul’s chief advisor, M.L. Somchai Chakrabhand, has been appointed to head a committee investigating allegations that 186 hospitals under the Ministry’s supervision have accepted donations from pharmaceutical companies. anutin (bad start) 'donations' ; together, a bad recipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, mr mr said: i have full faith that this probe will progress without a hitch. leave no stone unturned anutin. Please let us know what your on, cause i need some of that.???? Edited June 12, 2020 by colinneil 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 4 hours ago, champers said: Why shouldn't hospital admin management have a commercial agreement with Pharma? Both sides benefit. It is the personal palm greasing that needs stamping out. the patients don't benefit, the 300 percent upscale of prices of medicine, etc... keep the discount and charge full price medicine should never been allowed to be a commercial institution 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petedk Posted June 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2020 There is an English proverb "Don't let the fox guard the henhouse." Say no more. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 5 hours ago, colinneil said: So Anutin has appointed his pal Somchai to head donation probe. Well you wont find any fairer probe than that, will you.???? Yep and the probe "commission" will report directly to their boss, who appointed them. Don't want the report leaking and being "misunderstood". Notice the little threat to whistleblowers. Open your gobs about the wrong people and they'll be consequences, whatever the reality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted June 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2020 He should have asked his friend in the Agriculture ministery to head up the investigation. The deputy minister there has previous experiance in investigating the buying of pharmaceuticals. Mind you, that was in Australia. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 That's a Will Carling grade dimple the health minister is sporting .. Bet he was a right little billy bunter as a kid .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 7 hours ago, webfact said: He warned, however, that whistle-blowers may be held accountable if it is proven that their allegations are groundless So if the ministry wishes to say there were no kick-backs, no corruption and the accusations were groundless as a whitewash, they can hang the whistle blowers out to dry ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 he is probably upset they didnt give him a commision as the minister, he has to get back his money used to get the position some how 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 9 hours ago, webfact said: Health minister appoints his chief advisor to head donation probe And to come up with some "concrete" evidence????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtong Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 9 hours ago, champers said: Why shouldn't hospital admin management have a commercial agreement with Pharma? Both sides benefit. It is the personal palm greasing that needs stamping out. will the hospital in turn provide the best suitable medicine for the patient, or push the one pharma they get the most kickbacks from? bcos hospital business has still another side too, the patient, who ultimately is paying for those decisions; figuratively and literally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetchy Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I am aware of donating blood and major organs - but a whole head donation? The wonders of modern science ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 We will check to see if you have paid the appropriate amount to us. If you haven't please forward the money to our pockets immidiately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 23 hours ago, BobbyL said: Here it is done by the health minister's very own sidekick. This way he avoids any responsibility if anything wrong is discovered and if it's not (which is the more likely scenario.) The threat to whistle blowers AKA witnesses indicates how rigorously this investigation will be enacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 On 6/12/2020 at 6:06 AM, colinneil said: So Anutin has appointed his pal Somchai to head donation probe. Well you wont find any fairer probe than that, will you.???? Not going to find anything wrong now are they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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