UK abandons plan to introduce full border checks with EU on Jan. 1 - FT

[Loiner]

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Low tax and low regulation leads to investment, which leads to jobs and a healthy economy.

 

Singapore on Thames, here we come. The added bonus is that the EU and the Europhiles will hate it, so it will be highly amusing when they finally realize we're serious about telling them to shove their level playing field up the chocolate starfish ????.

See more of this soon, even for manufacturing.
Why didn't the Remainers want to talk too much about Nissan closing Spanish plant in favour of Sunderland that bastion of Brexit?

[JonnyF]

3 hours ago, Bruntoid said:

Any update on trade deals ? 

Still working hard to get an Australian style deal with the EU.

 

 

[Loiner]

3 hours ago, Bruntoid said:

Any update on trade deals ? 

No, we are too busy beating Barnier & Co into a cowering submission at the moment. Then they'll all be lining up to be given the same treatment - UK Rules, take them or leave them.

[Bruntoid]

27 minutes ago, Loiner said:

See more of this soon, even for manufacturing.
Why didn't the Remainers want to talk too much about Nissan closing Spanish plant in favour of Sunderland that bastion of Brexit?

I’ll talk about it 

 

Nissan LAST WEEK stated that a 10% tariff on their cars made in the U.K. shipped to the EU would be unsustainable !!

 

How are the trade deals going ? 

[Bruntoid]

19 minutes ago, Loiner said:

No, we are too busy beating Barnier & Co into a cowering submission at the moment. Then they'll all be lining up to be given the same treatment - UK Rules, take them or leave them.

It’s the toe curling childishness of the Brexiteers that is depressing so beautifully displayed there. So you admit 6 months away from leaving your biggest trading partner you have no deals on the table to replace them ?  and YOU are in the driving seat ? ???? The UK will be embarking on those talks with a begging bowl. I can however give you a starter, the current talks with the US on which so many Brexiteers hang their hopes will add .............0.16% to GDP according to the British Chamber of Commerce (probably soon to be outed as ‘bias’ ?) 
 

Barnier holds all the cards - his company is SIX times larger than the U.K.’s - it would be a tragedy if Brexiteers are too, let’s politely say challenged, to understand what a 18 trillion GDP v a 3 trillion GDP means in terms of negotiating power, but it’s actually funny. After reading the Brexiteers ramblings I thank the lord I went to a decent school! 

[Bruntoid]

35 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Still working hard to get an Australian style deal with the EU.

 

 

Ok thanks for the update - and how’s that going ? 

[Bruntoid]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Me stupid! I thought there was a strong anti-globalist stance shared by many Brexiters.

They’re waiting for The Sun to update them on the latest strategy ????

[sawadee1947]

3 hours ago, samran said:

Chlorinated Chicken Christmas roast dinners coming soon!

you forgot your hormone treated beef...hmmm delicious......your breasts might grow to huge tits......self-serving..????????????

[Loiner]

26 minutes ago, Bruntoid said:

 

Barnier holds all the cards - his company is SIX times larger than the U.K.’s - it would be a tragedy if Brexiteers are too, let’s politely say challenged, to understand what a 18 trillion GDP v a 3 trillion GDP means in terms of negotiating power, but it’s actually funny. After reading the Brexiteers ramblings I thank the lord I went to a decent school! 

Barnier has no negotiating power now, unless the EU makes some kind of deal. They won't because of their political dogmatism. Most deals that have been done with other sovereign nations would leave the UK to be more competitive than EU nations, which is why they will not deal. Oh well, off we go No Deal. That's the true extent of Barnier's negotiating power - eurozilch. 

[Logosone]

14 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Barnier has no negotiating power now, unless the EU makes some kind of deal. They won't because of their political dogmatism. Most deals that have been done with other sovereign nations would leave the UK to be more competitive than EU nations, which is why they will not deal. Oh well, off we go No Deal. That's the true extent of Barnier's negotiating power - eurozilch. 

You clearly live in a fantasy land.

 

The EU has been trying since 2007 to do a trade deal with India. The EU does 121 billion USD of business with India. The UK 20 billion USD.

 

Good luck with your "take Britain's rules or leave it" strategy when you negotiate with India, lol.

[bannork]

Even The Torygraph has had enough of this halfwit government.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/06/12/britain-ship-fools-heading-rocks/

 

[puipuitom]

8 hours ago, Blue Muton said:

The banana thing is a euromyth, a.k.a. a lie, a.k.a. the real project fear, 40 years of anti-EU BS peddled by the majority of the UK press.

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_Regulation_(EC)_No._2257/94 .

In the UK after 1 Jan 20121 all out-of-standard bananas can be dumped.

[Bruntoid]

3 hours ago, Loiner said:

Not true on both counts

DFRA have been developing new systems for at least two years.

Control is all about the UK deciding on its borders for itself. Maximum control, minimum control, or various controls - all decided y the UK government as and when necessary.

and how are those systems (2 years you say ????) coming along - didn’t the super duper new NHS System cost, deep breaths, 11 billion, take  NINE years to develop errrrrrr and then got binned ?? You know we’re leaving in 6 months right ? 
 

I worked in the industry and the government are poor payers so you will only get third rate technicians!
 

UPDATE - Boris has just announced relaxed border controls ????

 

 

Edited June 12, 2020 by Bruntoid
Accuracy - it was worse than I thought

[Bruntoid]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Barnier has no negotiating power now, unless the EU makes some kind of deal. They won't because of their political dogmatism. Most deals that have been done with other sovereign nations would leave the UK to be more competitive than EU nations, which is why they will not deal. Oh well, off we go No Deal. That's the true extent of Barnier's negotiating power - eurozilch. 

Just beyond clueless, I would smash the fair use rule trying to educate you and tbh I feel a bit guilty about that! 
 

The one thing Brexiteers have is endless hyperbole, the one thing they never have is figures! 
 

Give us your projected U.K. GDP say in 5 years based on the trade deals you haven’t got just to reassure us it’s not based on guesswork - nice easy one to start with .......????
 

 

[samran]

3 hours ago, Loiner said:

Sorry, you wouldn't be allowed in.

Not even when Boris gives me free movement in one of your only trade deals you are getting this side of 2025? 
 

No rush, more than happy to be getting one of your pensions as part of my retirement portfolio. Thanks for the free cash. 

Edited June 12, 2020 by samran

[Rookiescot]

2 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

you forgot your hormone treated beef...hmmm delicious......your breasts might grow to huge tits......self-serving..????????????

Actually you make that sound like a bad thing ????

Will give me something to do during lockdown.

Edited June 12, 2020 by Rookiescot

[Rookiescot]

Utterly delusional. 

Fog in the channel. Europe cut off from civilization ????.

[OneMoreFarang]

How many years did they have for the preparation.

Taking back control - yeah, sure.

But then, did anybody really expect anything different from Boris?

[vogie]

15 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

How many years did they have for the preparation.

Taking back control - yeah, sure.

But then, did anybody really expect anything different from Boris?

Boris has exceeded all expectations, the remainers were saying that Boris would the shortest serving PM. Well today the UK confirmed that we will not be extending the transition period and the moment for an extension has passed. So on the 1st of January 2021 we will take back control and regain our political and economic independence.

Rejoice, it's too late to grouse and wail, time to move on.

 

 

Edited June 12, 2020 by vogie

[Loiner]

44 minutes ago, Bruntoid said:

and how are those systems (2 years you say ????) coming along - didn’t the super duper new NHS System cost, deep breaths, 11 billion, take  NINE years to develop errrrrrr and then got binned ?? You know we’re leaving in 6 months right ? 
 

I worked in the industry and the government are poor payers so you will only get third rate technicians!
 

UPDATE - Boris has just announced relaxed border controls ????

 

 

You didn't know that we already left right?? The sixth months you are still clinging to is your rapidly expiring transition period. Barnier has slightly over two weeks to come up with something and he can't!!!

How or when the new systems are implemented is entirely up to us. Boris has taken back control and we now make our own decision, not Eurocrats. Hurts you doesn't it?

[TheDark]

10 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Must be some mistake here. How can the Europeans be assured their bananas will have the correct regulation curvature? 

UK is no longer part of the EU, so whatever UK does, it's UK's problem. 

 

Most from EU will have free access EU -> UK next year.

Goods from UK -> EU will have customs inspections as EU countries are ready to do so.

 

UK just confirmed that it will not ask extension to transition period. 

[stevenl]

19 minutes ago, Loiner said:

You didn't know that we already left right?? The sixth months you are still clinging to is your rapidly expiring transition period. Barnier has slightly over two weeks to come up with something and he can't!!!

How or when the new systems are implemented is entirely up to us. Boris has taken back control and we now make our own decision, not Eurocrats. Hurts you doesn't it?

I don't think it hurts anyone, but it will hurt you in time to come.

Remainers, inside and outside of the UK, are not anti UK, brexiteers though are anti EU.

Edited June 12, 2020 by stevenl

[johnpetersen]

27 minutes ago, Loiner said:

You didn't know that we already left right?? The sixth months you are still clinging to is your rapidly expiring transition period. Barnier has slightly over two weeks to come up with something and he can't!!!

How or when the new systems are implemented is entirely up to us. Boris has taken back control and we now make our own decision, not Eurocrats. Hurts you doesn't it?

Thanks to the pandemic, Boris' level of competence has been clearly demonstrated. It's not just Brexit opponents who will suffer under his mismanagement.

[david555]

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-uk-formally-confirms-to-eu-that-it-wont-extend-transition-period-12005296

Brexit: UK 'formally confirms' to EU that it won't extend transition period

 

 

 

Edited June 12, 2020 by david555

[tomacht8]

For the time being without border controls, that is not a gift from the UK, the reason is that the UK currently has neither the staff nor the infrastructure. 

Veterinarians, border guards, software, customs officers, border installations cost money. Money that the UK doesn't have at the moment.

 

Half-full shelves in supermarkets would also not be good for Boris. 

 

Boris is trying to sell some cosmetics for his Brexiters here. The free trade bla bla.

 

But you can see how strong the negotiating positions are. 

The EU will check all imports from the UK and provide the relevant tariffs.

 

The EU cannot act otherwise. All 27 members are subject to the same trading rules. There will be no free pass for the UK as a third country.

 

But the UK is free and can buy its products elsewhere. With the UK exports it is getting more difficult. Especially for companies that are built into production chains. The UK can try to sell its life insurances in Africa and trade in salsify for it.

 

[Rookiescot]

45 minutes ago, david555 said:

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-uk-formally-confirms-to-eu-that-it-wont-extend-transition-period-12005296

Brexit: UK 'formally confirms' to EU that it won't extend transition period

 

 

 

Of course there will not be an extension. The far right in the Conservative party have already achieved their goal.

No deal Brexit.

The damage to the country will be enormous but thats a price worth paying to preserve tax havens and tax avoidance scams for the rich.

Poor people dont matter. 

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Boris has exceeded all expectations, the remainers were saying that Boris would the shortest serving PM. Well today the UK confirmed that we will not be extending the transition period and the moment for an extension has passed. So on the 1st of January 2021 we will take back control and regain our political and economic independence.

Rejoice, it's too late to grouse and wail, time to move on.

 

 

Actually no. Johnson has lived up to all expectations. 

Utterly incompetent.

 

[david555]

18 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Of course there will not be an extension. The far right in the Conservative party have already achieved their goal.

No deal Brexit.

The damage to the country will be enormous but thats a price worth paying to preserve tax havens and tax avoidance scams for the rich.

Poor people dont matter. 

"Poor people dont matter"

 

Nor do old people in the care houses seems by the corona virus negligence when bringing in non tested ones from the hospitals to the care homes....

 

Matt Hancock got his first legal case presented by lady docter who lost father because such handling

Edited June 12, 2020 by david555

[vogie]

6 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Actually no. Johnson has lived up to all expectations. 

Utterly incompetent.

 

He has lived up to my expectations, he was never going to live up to yours and that is where the bitterness lays. He promised no more extensions et voila, no more extensions. An extension was the last chance saloon for many remainers and democracy has been served in tall glasses.

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

He has lived up to my expectations, he was never going to live up to yours and that is where the bitterness lays. He promised no more extensions et voila, no more extensions. An extension was the last chance saloon for many remainers and democracy has been served in tall glasses.

Told you several times before. I dont want an extension. I want No Deal Brexit delivered as soon as possible.

Maximum damage to the economy and fabric of UK society. 

Get on with it.