norfolkandchance Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, stereolab said: 1972 at basic Royal Air Force training, we are completing some paperwork, a brave soul asked the Instructor what nationality he should put down on the form, we had English, Welsh, Scots and some from the Commonwealth, the reply , which I recall vividly today, was that from today you are all BRITISH. The subject never came up again, unlike on TVF. Sprog. 1969 for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I've never heard of anyone being called or identifying as UK-ish. Agreed it is somewhat complicated. One can be British as that is what the passport is or English/Scottish/Welsh or Northern Irish depending on the sport. 6 Nations Rugby Irish team is made up of players from Eire and Northern Ireland as an example. Just because others don't understand doesn't make anyone arrogant or pompous. Our golfer could be from Falkland Isles, Cayman Isles, et al or any other British territories. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauptmannUK Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 British Isles = Britain, Ireland and all the smaller islands. Great Britain = England, Scotland, Wales. United Kingdom = Great Britain + Northern Ireland. Passports are UK. National identities can be quite strong within the four nations of the UK - different histories and past/current grievances etc. NI has its own well-known issues. I have a Scottish friend who gets furious if anyone refers to him as British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Brer said: Your all POM’s to me. and you are all the progeny of criminals to us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 He was probably from Northern Ireland i.e. not from UK but British. Did he have a dodgy accent? After living in Scotland for 10 years being a Brit went out the window, I'm definitely English 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnray Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, petermik said: My understanding of "being British" is someone born in the UK to parents who are the same and I,m proud to be one of them also They still have dark skin after 3 generations you know that right? I'm just testing your intricate human sorting system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaLa Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I'm English / British , whatever. I don't understand under what context he would say this. Surely he is both. Anyway as long as you beat him at golf and he buys the beer afterwards I would forgive him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I have 3 passports and permanent resident of a 4th country. Thats why i drink so much, i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stouricks Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 minute ago, HauptmannUK said: British Isles = Britain, Ireland and all the smaller islands. Great Britain = England, Scotland, Wales. United Kingdom = Great Britain + Northern Ireland. Passports are UK. National identities can be quite strong within the four nations of the UK - different histories and past/current grievances etc. NI has its own well-known issues. I have a Scottish friend who gets furious if anyone refers to him as British. Does that then mean that someone from one of the 'smaller islands' is not from Great Britain? If Gt Britain = E, S & W and UK = GB + NI, can a Manxman have a UK passport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sametboy2019 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Brit·ish /ˈbridiSH/ Learn to pronounce adjective 1. relating to Great Britain or the United Kingdom, or to its people or language. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, HauptmannUK said: I have a Scottish friend who gets furious if anyone refers to him as British. he's probably always furious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stouricks Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, petermik said: My understanding of "being British" is someone born in the UK to parents who are the same and I,m proud to be one of them also No, my grand-daughter just born in Dubai to my son & his wife both English. She is British. Doesn't have to be born in UK/GB/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stouricks Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, GarryP said: My son is British. At least according to his passport, but is not from the UK or any of those other places you have listed. He went to the UK for his grandmother's funeral though. Sorry, yes, I should have said that he or his parents or even grandparents are classed as British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocky Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Bob A Kneale said: Just don't play golf with the pompous @rse again! +1 for @rse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocky Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: Our golfer could be from Falkland Isles, Cayman Isles, et al or any other British territories Sure, but you'd more likely say you were a Falkland Islander or whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 It's all part of the deal of 4 tribes living on 2 big lumps of rock in the North Atlantic .. In the good 'ole days you were British but as we started to wane and fall apart and the home nations wanted a bit more independence the British tag became less pop' and the other home nations referred to their own identities more .. this is reflected in the increase in flags of each nation fluttering a lot more rather than the Jack alone which was an amalgam of 2 of the other nations .. which p*ssed the Welsh off abit .. There's also a bit of belief amongst yer true blue Britisher that some more recent swathes of the pop' whilst having the passport are not strictly British to King Arthur standard so are referred to as UK'ers .. the distinction must be drawn when engaging with a proper " fight them on the beaches " Briton or a shilly-shally import .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, bkk6060 said: After I said this he corrected me and said: I am not from the UK, I am British. Maybe I'm wrong dunno don't care either but his got it wrong in my book, when somebody says to me are you from UK to me I say yes, I am English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 British Lives Matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Encore Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Born in England to English parents but never refer to myself as English. I invariably say that I am British from the UK or 'Prathet suhar ratcha anajack' and, if queried by inquisitive locals, explain that the four countries or nations are part of one union. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 51 minutes ago, Pilotman said: and you are all the progeny of criminals to us. Hybridization has major benefits, that's why we don't have chinless wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Lacessit said: Hybridization has major benefits, that's why we don't have chinless wonders. that's just mutation, which is not always a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pilotman said: that's just mutation, which is not always a good thing. Straight through to the wicketkeeper!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonwilly Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Brer said: Your all POM’s to me. POHMs john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Lacessit said: I can remember an Englishman telling me to be born British is to win the lottery of life. I responded Australians are born without class distinctions. "Class distinctions" were originally created by... history says it all! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mr Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, BritManToo said: I'm English, I don't want to include any Scots or Irish in my nationality. and i you... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 3 hours ago, BritManToo said: I'm English, I don't want to include any Scots or Irish in my nationality. There's some in there ....... trust me. ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFMills Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Lacessit said: I can remember an Englishman telling me to be born British is to win the lottery of life. I responded Australians are born without class distinctions. And there was me thinking Australians were rejects from across the water ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snairb Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 simple he is from gibraltar they are very pro british 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dene16 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 4 hours ago, bkk6060 said: So, is there some issue with this for future reference for me so I can be correct in my comments. He probably means he is British but meaning English. There is a lot of controversy, especially with brexit, over our nationality with nearly all of Scotland, Northern Ireland, and a considerable portion of Wales wishing to stay within Europe partly because of the subsidiaries they will lose on coming out Both Northern Ireland and Wales are a cost to the British taxpayer while Scotland believe they can survive on their North Sea reserves and be better off (won't last for ever) If that is their choice, like britmantoo, they can **** off, have their independence and i am happy to call myself English 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, jonwilly said: POHMs john Oh no not a whinging POM who has always got to complain or correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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