Thailand is ranked 2nd in global COVID-19 recovery index

[RBOP]

Meaningless and misleading data.  

[Pilotman]

5 minutes ago, RBOP said:

Meaningless and misleading data.  

how so?  Do you have better data not available to the rest of us?  On this index, if you see the whole list, UK comes out at 154 in the World, which sounds about right. Thailand have done well to contain the virus, kudos to them and to we who expat here. 

Edited June 15, 2020 by Pilotman

[Sydebolle]

At what price remains unclear though ......... 

 

[Pilotman]

21 minutes ago, Morty T said:

Just basic math, don't test, lower results. 

exactly.  They can't use data that has not been collected.  No conspiracy here.  

[Guderian]

And at number 154 (drumroll, please) is the United Kingdom!

They're doing better than Somalia (just), but still below Venezuela.

 

(Europeans, please note Belgium is at 150, the Netherlands at 162 and Sweden way down at 171)

[wensiensheng]

3 hours ago, Borzandy said:

Forgot NZ and... and...

Not many deaths in New Zealand. So not much to recover from. Unsurprisingly they don’t figure because to all intents and purposes they don’t qualify

[bodga]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

expressed his thanks to everyone in the country for their discipline

Please  no my sides  can't  stand it.

I the real world certainly out  of  Bangkok nothing changed at  all, no distancing at  all,  still eating form the same shared cutlery bowls etc. Mask only raised to go into a  shop,many at half  mast, Thais constantly  touching their masks .

Ill await the  full scientific   research later for Thailands low death rate as far as I can see it certainly was not the Thais controlling this.

[Snig27]

5 hours ago, rasmus5150 said:

If you only test a small percentage with faulty tests, and also "try" to fiddle the actual numbers so you can spin that Thailand is safe - then I'm surprised that Thailand did not come in 1st place.

 

If it's a toss up between a bank of highly qualified professionals and your bar-room opinion guess which way most thinking people will go..

[bodga]

1 hour ago, mr mr said:

no need to thank us PM. we were only following your wise and confident decision making. THANK YOU pm for keeping thailand safe during this whole pandemic.

 

you deserve a rest. take a holiday. buy one get one free for hotels soon. 

Id  suggest the U.S, UK or Brazil for him.

[Pilotman]

1 minute ago, wensiensheng said:

Not many deaths in New Zealand. So not much to recover from. Unsurprisingly they don’t figure because to all intents and purposes they don’t qualify

yes, quite.  people are too quick to jump on the band wagon of knocking the study.  It's a statistical analysis, no more than that, with boundaries and limitations.  It should be treated as a useful indicator, one of many around right now,   not as the solid gold position. I guess some people skipped statistics in school. 

[Snig27]

4 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

exactly.  They can't use data that has not been collected.  No conspiracy here.

I understand there is a global movement to drop the science and instead rely on the TV forum members, yourself included, for the primary data on this.

[bodga]

2 minutes ago, Snig27 said:

I understand there is a global movement to drop the science and instead rely on the TV forum members, yourself included, for the primary data on this.

Seems  to  be  working  with  blm 

Edited June 15, 2020 by bodga

[Pilotman]

2 minutes ago, bodga said:

Please  no my sides  can't  stand it.

I the real world certainly out  of  Bangkok nothing changed at  all, no distancing at  all,  still eating form the same shared cutlery bowls etc. Mask only raised to go into a  shop,many at half  mast, Thais constantly  touching their masks .

Ill await the  full scientific   research later for Thailands low death rate as far as I can see it certainly was not the Thais controlling this.

yes, and that is precisely why it didn't spread.  The village communities were in effect isolated in their own specific areas, where they could farm and carry out normal daily tasks in isolation from the rest of the communities , same in many other Asian countries.  neighbouring villages in my mother in laws area were isolated together as one community, nobody in, nobody out, but for deliveries, for two months.  Nobody caught the virus.  Good on the Head Men for arranging it.  Why so quick to condemn? 

[Purdey]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

We have some rather creative journalism going on here with conflicting reports on the data used to compile these rankings. 

 

In the NNT National News Bureau of Thailand report it states:

 

"To decide rankings, 70 percent of the score was assessed from the drive and changes of the daily situation based on the number of patients under treatment; the rate of cured patients per number of patients; the number of tests per confirmed patients and the number of tests per population of the whole country"

 

The above in my opinion is complete spin and not a true reflection of how the data was complied, how a country like Thailand with such low testing ratios compared to the rest of the world could get ranked so high? The truth probably being that the data was not at all compiled as above. The actual data gathering for the first 70% score assessment did not include testing information or data on number of daily patients under treatment at all. Instead it relied solely on the number of deaths per captia as stated in their report:

 

"Proportionate Death Rate due to COVID-19
This parameter takes into consideration the crude death rates of each country and factors its population size, and then compares this to the death rates due to COVID-19 since the first case was reported in the country. This gives a true reflection of how death rates are being affected by COVID-19 in these countries.

 

The remaining 30% consist of static scores derived from the Global Health Security Index (GHS), an initiative led by the Johns Hopkins University that was funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. The GHS was developed to assess a country’s readiness to cope and handle any epidemic."

 

https://covid19.pemandu.org/about/

 

 

 

I am unsure if they only counted deaths in hospitals but that is what I heard. Maybe someone can confirm 

Hardly any testing at all. 

[SupermarineS6B]

Ha ha....... Thailand doing what it does best........  More lies than a cheap Chinese watch......

[Pravda]

Haters gonna hate, but did any of you get sick? Went back home? You should have considering the whine.

 

Perhaps Thailand simply dodged the bullet, but who cares. This amazing country just can't be stopped.

 

From Thailand dreamer to hater and back to lover again.

 

Yes, I bought a condo.

[ravip]

6 hours ago, rasmus5150 said:

If you only test a small percentage with faulty tests, and also "try" to fiddle the actual numbers so you can spin that Thailand is safe - then I'm surprised that Thailand did not come in 1st place.

 

 

So? What are the real numbers? thousands of COVID-19 related deaths? Millions? Similar to some developed countries?

Please do enlighten the general public of the true figures. These graphics are becoming too boring now...even after many, many beers.

 

Edited June 15, 2020 by ravip

[ravip]

45 minutes ago, RBOP said:

Meaningless and misleading data.  

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[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

they might make 1st place for most damaged economy, we'll see next year...

They'll contest it if they get on that list!

[dallen52]

SO here's a suggestion. 

Allow Australian people to return to their homes in Thailand  and anyone else who wants to get back. 

 

One country at a time.

Starting with the number one for covid19 recovery. 

 

No quarantine or crazy insurance cover. 

[Mick501]

4 hours ago, Borzandy said:

Forgot NZ and... and...

Perhaps try reading the assessment criteria?

Edited June 15, 2020 by Mick501

[KhunKenAP]

Hard to believe with all the screwups at the start, such as not closing the borders and bringing in as many Chinese as possible. Must be using Thai math to calculate.

 

 

[marquis22]

Where are the stats on controlling road deaths and atmospheric smoke damage.

[connda]

Thailand should be able to bring tourism numbers back up to normal just by implementing "Bubble Tourism" agreements with most of Africa.

????

 

[sscc]

Have confidence in Thailand medical system during good time and bad time. 

Well done Thailand 

Edited June 15, 2020 by sscc

[Jack Cook]

Lies damn lies and statistics. It would be hilarious if it didn't kill people. Amazing how nobody is talking about the huge social ramifications.

[essox essox]

4 hours ago, barrykay said:

i am from Australia. no way are we ahead of NZ or the real champs....Taiwan. where is No. 8 Lithonia? it can't be Lithuania because they are hopeless. I wonder did the Gullivers Travel Company include the land of Lithonia for this survey.

what about latvia......and sweden....?? iceland....greenland....??? faroe islands???

[Traubert]

3 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

Read the NZ herald today an exclusive report about China cover up of actual cases and deaths said to be under reported by at least ten times.

So pork pies have been rife in China

Because NZ says so.

 

Right.......

[essox essox]

1 hour ago, dallen52 said:

SO here's a suggestion. 

Allow Australian people to return to their homes in Thailand  and anyone else who wants to get back. 

 

One country at a time.

Starting with the number one for covid19 recovery. 

 

No quarantine or crazy insurance cover. 

my ozzie mate told me a couple of days ago that HE could be struggling to get a visa to return thailand.....

[Bkk Brian]

3 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

 

Read the NZ herald today an exclusive report about China cover up of actual cases and deaths said to be under reported by at least ten times.

So pork pies have been rife in China and LOS wants to open up to them as a safe country.

 

Yea read that, its from a new study by Mai He, Li Li, Louis P Dehner, Lucia Dunn

 

The study says that, based on its inferred data, China may have had anywhere between 305,000 and 1.27 million Covid-19 cases by February 7. The number of dead, it finds, was likely already about 6800 to 7200.

Official figures released by Beijing at this time reported only 13,600 infections and 545 dead.

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.28.20116012v1