Fast-acting Thailand and South Korea hold key to dodging 'second wave'

[shy coconut]

3 hours ago, LEKPHUKET said:

What a joke ,explain why south Korea has prohibited the transit of thais???

Can anyone transit in Korea or is it just Thais prohibited?

[bodga]

4 hours ago, robblok said:

Thailand acted far faster then many other countries in closing the border. The UK never closed the borders and look how bad it got over there. Almost the worst in Europe.

Doesnt mean anything yet without  a full study of why Thailand escaped the worst, anything at the moment is  pure  guesswork,certainly  no distancing round here and no masks  for a  long time well into mid  march, even after that there was  no distancing and constant  fiddling of  masks, up and down they went  like yo-yos.

[ravip]

8 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Seeall ... I can't read your comment, we probably both need glasses, but i'm trying yours with binoculars

Try it with a microscope, you might succeed.

[shy coconut]

3 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Do you ever wonder why pretty much nobody talks about Thailand's COVID response other than Thailand and people with vested interests in Thailand?

Well, the 2 Japanese authors of the OP were talking about Thailand's (and South Korean) response

and the source wasn't a Thai news outlet.

 

Damn I broke my rule.....

[poskat]

first ripples dont generate second waves

[shy coconut]

3 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

So you post an excerpt from a Thai site praising Thailands COVID response meant for Thai people, and you did so in reply to my post asking you why nobody talks about Thailands COVID response other than Thai people. 

 

If it's meant for Thai people, why is it written in English?

[yuyiinthesky]

2 hours ago, connda said:

The Second Wave.  You mean the boogie-man story created by the same people who locked their citizens down and then repeated incessantly by the mainstream propaganda networks in order to continue to cow their populace into submission.  That Second Wave?

Right now the Ministry of Creative Narratives could roll chicken bones on the ground, wave a amulet over them, mumbles some Pali, and the Second Wave will be averted. 

But a scientific solution is what the doctor ordered though.  So what will be forwarded as a solution to the public will be the scientific communities equivalent of rolling chicken bones on the ground, waving a amulet over them, mumbling some Pali over them after which with much fanfare, photo-ops, and mass media attention and hyperbole, Thailand's success at averting the dreaded Second Wave will be celebrated.

What everyone misses during the exercise in smoke and mirrors is that the real objective here is to force every single human on the planet to submit to having a vial full of untested chemicals injected into their bodies which they will pay for. After which the entire world's population will need to submit to a schedule of yearly vaccinations to "keep humanity safe from disease."  Literally trillions of dollar of potential revenues are wrapped up in forced vaccination programs and those who make them will be totally indemnified for any damage created by the untested, "fast-tracked" drugs.  That's where this is heading.  Everything else is theatre. 

Unfortunately this seems to be correct.

 

At the beginning we got told to “shelter in place” to “flatten the curve”, to avoid overloading the hospitals. That was easy to understand. Then the hospitals stayed empty almost everywhere, and when that became too obvious to ignore, the message changed silently to “Shelter in place until there’s a vaccine”, and virus expert Bill Gates showed up everywhere and repeated that message.

 

So it seems you’re correct.

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, Yinn said:

Two day ago...

 

 

 

If you really break it down, it has nothing to do with more testing, as the misleader likes to say. It is more about morbid obesity, high levels of diabetes, high levels of heart disease, hin levels of cancer, and generally poor health amongst the masses. The diet in most of the US is dreadful. There are some more progressive cities, where more is known about nutrition. But in most of the nation, fast food, processed flour, fried foods, lots and lots of processed meat, and lots and lots of sugar rules the day, along with little to no exercise. It is no wonder.

 

Americans simply have very poor immunity. I knew months ago, if this thing hit the US, it was going to get ugly. And as the chart indicates, this thing is nowhere near over, with the re-opening of cities, and the ignorance of the use of masks and distancing. This is just a massive continuation of the first wave in the hapless US. #1 yes. In Covid. 

 

Despite what the multitude of naysayers insist, Thailand did a wonderful job in the fight against Covid. It is deader than a doornail here. If we get a second wave, it is coming from outside.

Edited June 22, 2020 by spidermike007

[ryanb741]

This virus is more deadly than flu but it isn't airborne ebola either. If it helps, overall Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) is around 0.2-0.4% and heavily skewed towards the over 65s. The post earlier indicating a 5.4% fatality rate doesn't take into account the fact that the vast majority of Covid cases aren't recorded. 

 

Personally I think there is an element of luck to Thailand's low infections. If you remember, Thailand was late to taking this that seriously and tests per 1m population is low compared to places like the UK and Spain. We know that the virus struggles to replicate in hot and humid environments - there's your reason. Problem Thailand is going to have is that with so few of the population infected herd immunity is non existent so unless the country acts like a hermit country (with the knock on devastation to the economy) then at some stage it is going to need to gain herd immunity. Ditto places like New Zealand.

 

This will happen either through letting the 'right' people get infected or through vaccination. The UK gets a bad rap with number of infections but don't forget they are testing more people per 1m inhabitants than pretty much anyone else. Test more people and expect more infections to be detected. What is important is number of deaths and those are decreasing. And that's not just through better therapeutics - there is strong evidence to indicate that in those countries where more widespread infections have taken place (UK,US, Italy, Spain etc) that dramatically higher percentages of patients are surviving. Seems like it may be weakening somewhat there and that is something typical of coronaviruses - they tend to start with a bang and end with a whimper.

 

 

[Anton9]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

If you really break it down, it has nothing to do with more testing, as the misleader likes to say. It is more about morbid obesity, high levels of diabetes, high levels of heart disease, hin levels of cancer, and generally poor health amongst the masses. The diet in most of the US is dreadful. There are some more progressive cities, where more is known about nutrition. But in most of the nation, fast food, processed flour, fried foods, lots and lots of processed meat, and lots and lots of sugar rules the day, along with little to no exercise. It is no wonder.

 

Americans simply have very poor immunity. I knew months ago, if this thing hit the US, it was going to get ugly. And as the chart indicates, this thing is nowhere near over, with the re-opening of cities, and the ignorance of the use of masks and distancing. This is just a massive continuation of the first wave in the hapless US. #1 yes. In Covid. 

 

Despite what the multitude of naysayers insist, Thailand did a wonderful job in the fight against Covid. It is deader than a doornail here. If we get a second wave, it is coming from outside.

Yes,like those 19 imported cases im Myanmar coming from Thailand.

Edited June 22, 2020 by Anton9

[steven100]

15 minutes ago, ravip said:

Try it with a microscope, you might succeed.

yes .... why is his text so small ... can he not see

[The Deerhunter]

26 minutes ago, shy coconut said:

Not sure who is boasting, Thai visa copy and paste an article written by a

couple of Japanese people showing a graph reflecting infection rates following

the decision to impose restrictions on the general population.

 

Bash away to your heart's content but try to do so where relevant.

 

 

 

 

Ok then. And that case my first choices for the Thai visa people copying a Japanese article. Look on the bright side. It's not Thai people claiming cure for Ebola again.

[Fairynuff]

6 hours ago, Sharp said:

0.18% world wide mortality rate <deleted>....

A Flu season was around this 3 years ago... 

Not withstanding the asymptomatic 

 PLANDEMIC 

Oh yeah.... flu..... plandemic the conspiracy theorists have been let out again. 
Infowars and Breitbart have their place, but not in the real world

Edited June 22, 2020 by Fairynuff

[yuyiinthesky]

3 hours ago, MadMac said:

A new wave of fear is pushed, particularly from US and big finance since last week. One should ask himself for the agenda of this narrative or simpler, what should be covered up. I'd not be surprised if this is the prelude of the second leg of the big crash incoming.

Yes, I’m worried about that too. 
 

I hope it is just the games they play to win the coming US election, but it might be more.

[yuyiinthesky]

14 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

If you really break it down, it has nothing to do with more testing, as the misleader likes to say. It is more about morbid obesity, high levels of diabetes, high levels of heart disease, hin levels of cancer, and generally poor health amongst the masses. The diet in most of the US is dreadful. There are some more progressive cities, where more is known about nutrition. But in most of the nation, fast food, processed flour, fried foods, lots and lots of processed meat, and lots and lots of sugar rules the day, along with little to no exercise. It is no wonder.

Exactly! Easy victims.

[chilly07]

Difficult to tell how Thailand is doing without mass testing and a comparison of deaths above the average during the pandemic period. Hospitals don't seem overun but that could be because people are avoiding them  due to fears of hospitals being wuhan flu hotspots. Second waves seem to occur at markets and slaughter houses and where people are crammed together

[SuwadeeS]

Many people do not recognize the whole story and truth.

By now, they track and are able to spy on everybody.

Even in regular busses.

They pretend it's about the virus.

But quite sure they will keep it.

 

Further, the announcement....

 

I clear language..

Foreigners are not welcome at all.

[yuyiinthesky]

14 minutes ago, ryanb741 said:

This virus is more deadly than flu but it isn't airborne ebola either. If it helps, overall Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) is around 0.2-0.4% and heavily skewed towards the over 65s. The post earlier indicating a 5.4% fatality rate doesn't take into account the fact that the vast majority of Covid cases aren't recorded. 

Yes, but 5.4% sounds scarier and therefore scaremongers prefer to use it, knowing that it is wrong.

[brain150]

6 hours ago, steven100 said:

yeah .... just open everything up ... just let Wuhan and Beijing folk travel wherever they want. 

There's no virus ...it's just a made up story. 

So finally you found the truth ?

Impressive.

 

With a false positive rate of only 1% you will always have this continuing !

Testing 100,000 people will always result in 1,000 cases ! Built into the test !!!

... which is always more than 0.5% ????

[yuyiinthesky]

1 minute ago, brain150 said:

With a false positive rate of only 1% you will always have this continuing !

Testing 100,000 people will always result in 1,000 cases ! Built into the test !!!

... which is always more than 0.5% ????

Even the Nobel price winner who invented the system used in the PCR test is saying that it should not get used for such tests.

 

But why listen to the Nobel price winner who also invented the system.

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, tonysilly said:

are they ever going to stop the 2nd 3rd and many waves of accident road death in Thailand which kills more people then the covit 19??? 

Give it rest mate.

 

You cant catch a road accident off the person standing next to you.

[Anton9]

6 minutes ago, yuyiinthesky said:

Yes, but 5.4% sounds scarier and therefore scaremongers prefer to use it, knowing that it is wrong.

Exactly, clearly many people like to live in fear and want to make sure others will follow their paranoia.

[Anton9]

1 minute ago, Traubert said:

Give it rest mate.

 

You cant catch a road accident off the person standing next to you.

So?A death is still a death.

You can be killed by someone driving recklessly, what's the difference?

Edited June 22, 2020 by Anton9

[yuyiinthesky]

Just now, Traubert said:

Give it rest mate.

 

You cant catch a road accident off the person standing next to you.

BS

[tlandtday]

So fast acting is not doing anything and allowing Chinese tourists in for months while other countries have closed their borders.... hmmmm. 

[Anton9]

3 minutes ago, tlandtday said:

So fast acting is not doing anything and allowing Chinese tourists in for months while other countries have closed their borders.... hmmmm. 

I laugh so hard when they compare Thailand with other european countries who closed their borders way earlier than Thailand.

I remember very well in February  Thailand was the ONLY country in SEA letting in all chinese without any screening.

 

Edited June 22, 2020 by Anton9

[Traubert]

10 minutes ago, yuyiinthesky said:

BS

Clearly well thought through.

[lensta]

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

Yinn, Thailand has done an exceptional job in keeping the COVID-19 virus transmission rate as low as possible. Full credit goes to our Khun Prayut Chan O Cha for his strategic enforcement and timely suppression of the border entry points and airport lockdowns.

Khun Prayut has implemented all the correct procedures and policies to assist in zero to minimal infection rates. I don't listen to the farang nayers, some posters don't even live in Thailand, they just want to moan & whinge because it's like taking medicine ...they feel better after their rant.  lol

 

Soon as I read the first line of your post, I knew who had written it.

[lensta]

18 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Give it rest mate.

 

You cant catch a road accident off the person standing next to you.

No you can't, but you can sure a hell be killed by the idiot driving next to you and I see more cars on the road than I stand next to people

[tomauasia]

6 hours ago, sahibji said:

thailand sure has done a good job of the covid-19 and must be congratulated for their efforts. do not let the guard down,however, to avoid second wave of infections.

What absolute <deleted>. Vietnam.is top.of list. And moving forward with the economy..Thai gov a joke.