webfact Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 WHO warns of oxygen shortage as COVID cases set to top 10 mln FILE PHOTO: Director General of the World Health Organization (WHO) Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus attends a news conference on the situation of the coronavirus (COVID-2019), in Geneva, Switzerland, February 28, 2020. REUTERS/Denis Balibouse/File Photo GENEVA (Reuters) - The world faces a shortage of oxygen concentrators as the number of worldwide cases of coronavirus infection nears the 10 million mark, the World Health Organization head said on Wednesday. "Many countries are now experiencing difficulties obtaining oxygen concentrators," WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told a news conference. "Demand is currently outstripping supply." The new coronavirus has hit 9.3 million people and killed more than 480,000 so far and is rising by about 1 million cases per week. This has pushed oxygen demand to 88,000 large cylinders per day, or 620,000 cubic metres of oxygen, Tedros said. The sudden rise has created a dearth of oxygen concentrators needed to support breathing of COVID-19 patients suffering from respiratory distress. The health agency has purchased 14,000 oxygen concentrators from manufacturers and plans to send them to 120 countries in coming weeks, Tedros said. A further 170,000 concentrators - valued at some $100 million - will be potentially available over the next six months. The head of the WHO emergencies programme, Dr Mike Ryan, meanwhile said the pandemic in many Latin American countries was still intense as deaths in the region surpassed 100,000 this week. Many countries had experienced 25-50% increases in cases in the past week, he said. "I would characterise the situation in the Americas in general as still evolving, not having reached its peak yet, and likely to result in sustained numbers of cases and continued deaths," he said. The United States has criticized WHO's handling of the pandemic, calling the agency "China-centric". President Donald Trump demanded an immediate review and reforms and has pledged to quit the Geneva-based body. European governments are also working with the United States on an overhaul plan. While Tedros has pledged accountability and a post-pandemic review, Ryan said on Wednesday the agency was holding internal talks over its actions including what it has learned about controlling the virus. (Reporting by Emma Farge and John Miller; Writing by Kevin Liffey; Editing by Gareth Jones and Angus MacSwan) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-06-25 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted June 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2020 I note the absence of the "It's only a 'flu and more die from influenza" brigade . Have they read the science and the reports recently and found themselves failing? 7 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paiman Posted June 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: I note the absence of the "It's only a 'flu and more die from influenza" brigade . Have they read the science and the reports recently and found themselves failing? We do sleep a bit longer. You posted too early. Give my brain cell some time to become active. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC 71 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Sorry,off subject but why does this fella always look like he needs a turnout ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post talahtnut Posted June 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2020 Using dubious WHO figures above the mortality rate as a percentage is 0.52%. Still not much different from seasonal Flu. 4 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExpatOilWorker Posted June 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, talahtnut said: Using dubious WHO figures above the mortality rate as a percentage is 0.52%. Still not much different from seasonal Flu. Try 5.2% if you are using (The new coronavirus has hit 9.3 million people and killed more than 480,000 so far). 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, KC 71 said: Sorry,off subject but why does this fella always look like he needs a turnout ? Because he's full of ---- most of the time ! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ballpoint Posted June 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2020 The thing here isn't the actual mortality rate compared to those who catch it, but how many survived only because of hospital treatment? A shortage of ICU beds, ventilators and (in this case) oxygen would no doubt lead to an increase in the mortality rate, with many dying who could otherwise have been saved. And it's not just Covid-19 victims, there are many other cases where a ventilator and oxygen is required for emergency treatment and stabilisation, such as due to chest injuries following an accident. Would you deny a child or loved one ICU treatment because all available beds are taken by Covid-19 patients? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted June 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, ballpoint said: The thing here isn't the actual mortality rate compared to those who catch it, but how many survived only because of hospital treatment? A shortage of ICU beds, ventilators and (in this case) oxygen would no doubt lead to an increase in the mortality rate, with many dying who could otherwise have been saved. And it's not just Covid-19 victims, there are many other cases where a ventilator and oxygen is required for emergency treatment and stabilisation, such as due to chest injuries following an accident. Would you deny a child or loved one ICU treatment because all available beds are taken by Covid-19 patients? The recovery from Covid19 appears to be lengthy and can involve cardiac and kidney impairment in many also. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMinThailand Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, KC 71 said: Sorry,off subject but why does this fella always look like he needs a turnout ? He is an absolute idiot! Needs to go away and let somebody qualified to run the WHO. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, KC 71 said: Sorry,off subject but why does this fella always look like he needs a turnout ? He looks down in the dumps to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Got to die of something, if it's not this it will be something else. Call it what you like. Oh, and as to Oxygen, go outside, there is plenty out there. Come to think of it, my house and garden are full of the stuff, well about 21% of the air that is. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilotman Posted June 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, ratcatcher said: He looks down in the dumps to me. I would be too if I ran a discredited, inefficient organisation that is in hock to the Chinese and that everyone thinks is a joke. Not a recipe for happiness and job satisfaction. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 statistics show that when people are forcefully put on ventilators, they will end up mostly DEAD and this is no joke or rumors https://www.google.com/search?q=statistics+show+that+when+people+are+forcefully+put+on+ventilators 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 7 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: I note the absence of the "It's only a 'flu and more die from influenza" brigade . Have they read the science and the reports recently and found themselves failing? look at your statistics... more OLD people have died than normal and LESS young people or newborns died (parents don't vaccinate in hospitals = LESS SIDS = sudden infant death syndrome..) https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/lessons-from-the-lockdown-why-are-so-many-fewer-children-dying/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post featography Posted June 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2020 7 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: I note the absence of the "It's only a 'flu and more die from influenza" brigade . Have they read the science and the reports recently and found themselves failing? Thats because we ''its only a flu'' crowd are being quiet and letting WHO inflate numbers. When they get up to claiming 1.5 billion dead from covid19 we will all jump up and yell ''send Bill Gates and his so called vaccines home. His '''reduce world population by half''' will be achieved and we can all go back to normal lives, Covid is boxed up and put back on the shelf.'' 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said: look at your statistics... more OLD people have died than normal and LESS young people or newborns died (parents don't vaccinate in hospitals = LESS SIDS = sudden infant death syndrome..) https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/lessons-from-the-lockdown-why-are-so-many-fewer-children-dying/ There's a lot of great info and graphs on this page that breaks everything down by states, age etc in regards to covid deaths. No fear mongering, no panic statements, just facts from the reporting government figures. Amazing how the infant death rate is down. I'm sure pro vaxxers will explain it away that more mothers are at home keeping a better eye on their kids etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: I note the absence of the "It's only a 'flu and more die from influenza" brigade . Have they read the science and the reports recently and found themselves failing? Do you count the US's celebrated pandemic guru Dr Anthony Fauci as one of the brigade? He is on record of saying the consequences could be no worse than a severe flu pandemic. Not that this should make us complacent. Flu typically kills up to 650 million people a year, according to the CDC. But these regular culls do not typically lead to politicians to run around like headless chickens, savaging citizens rights and freedoms and destroying their domestic economies. I'm old enough to remember that the Hong Kong flu epidemic of 1968 killed nearly twice as many Brits as has this latest corononavirus (evening using the Government's grossly exaggerated mortality figures). Yet hardly anyone turned a hair and life went on as normal. Could there possibly be a hidden agenda behind the relentless COVID-19 fear-mongering by so-called "experts", politicians and the mass media? Nah, obviously just a coincidence that the World Economic Forum has come out swinging, demanding a total "reset" of the global economic and financial system. Edited June 25, 2020 by Krataiboy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Do you count the US's celebrated pandemic guru Dr Anthony Fauci as one of the brigade? He is on record of saying the consequences could be no worse than a severe flu pandemic. Not that this should make us complacent. Flu typically kills up to 650 million people a year, according to the CDC. But these regular culls do not typically lead to politicians to run around like headless chickens, savaging citizens rights and freedoms and destroying their domestic economies. I'm old enough to remember that the Hong Kong flu epidemic of 1968 killed nearly twice as many Brits as has this latest corononavirus (evening using the Government's grossly exaggerated mortality figures). Yet hardly anyone turned a hair and life went on as normal. Could there possibly be a hidden agenda behind the relentless COVID-19 fear-mongering by so-called "experts", politicians and the mass media? Nah, obviously just a coincidence that the World Economic Forum has come out swinging, demanding a total "reset" of the global economic and financial system. Crikey - if flu kills 650 million a year then in 10 years 6.5 billion will have died i.e. about the entire planet. The figure you are looking for is between 290000 and 650000. Even with all the strict controls, lockdowns and quarantines, covid-19 has taken 480,000 and is still rising at 5000 a day. The 1968 flu was met with no lockdown, no controls and.. hey presto 80000 deaths. If nothing had been done this time the figures this time would have been at least comparable. But I don't think there is a hidden agenda. Possibly more just opportunistic. A chance to get rid of western countries colossal debts by economic change, then back to the same old same old. No great 'new dawn'... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiekerjozef Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 The same WHO that announced that you don't need face masks and later had different ideas about it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 with all the hot air that comes out of their mouths ..... global warming has taken yet another hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 According to statistics verified by Mad Magazine, there have been 3.775 percent more deaths than that caused by Covid ............. by people's masks getting caught on an object while traveling at a high speed . A newer easy release mask is being brought out, after more testing is done on its effect on the environment. Who will not sanction said mask as they do not own any stock in the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Krataiboy said: Flu typically kills up to 650 million people a year, I think that figure perhaps needs checking ??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 6 hours ago, talahtnut said: Using dubious WHO figures above the mortality rate as a percentage is 0.52%. Still not much different from seasonal Flu. No. Much different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Rising Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, spiekerjozef said: The same WHO that announced that you don't need face masks and later had different ideas about it? Yes, the same WHO who change their advice according to new research and knowledge about the decease. Anything wrong with that? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted June 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Krataiboy said: Could there possibly be a hidden agenda behind the relentless COVID-19 fear-mongering by so-called "experts", politicians and the mass media? Nah, obviously just a coincidence that the World Economic Forum has come out swinging, demanding a total "reset" of the global economic and financial system. Am I seeing the contours of a conspiracy theory? Please give us your thoughts on this as you've obviously seen things the rest of us haven't. -Who's behind it. -What do they want to achieve. -How exactly have they managed to fool almost all of us (except you, of course). PS. PLEASE tell me that George Soros is part of the whole dastardly plot!!! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Someone needs to dropkick this guy back to Africa and lock him up. He needs to be held accountable for his comments prior to the world getting infected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said: Am I seeing the contours of a conspiracy theory? Please give us your thoughts on this as you've obviously seen things the rest of us haven't. -Who's behind it. -What do they want to achieve. -How exactly have they managed to fool almost all of us (except you, of course). PS. PLEASE tell me that George Soros is part of the whole dastardly plot!!! You got the idea right, but the name wrong. Keyser Söze is the man pulling all the strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, spiekerjozef said: The same WHO that announced that you don't need face masks and later had different ideas about it? They were trying to prevent a run on masks shields ect so the medical front line folks could have them personally I dident fall for it and was able to protect my family in time 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donga Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said: Yes, the same WHO who change their advice according to new research and knowledge about the decease. Anything wrong with that? Well yes, a hell of a lot wrong. 1. Masks are common sense, which WHO and most western authorities dismissed with "they're not 100% effective and can provide a false sense of security". Good grief. Even a bandanna would be effective if you're talking to someone who doesn't show any symptoms and better if they have something. 2. Asians used masks to control SARS and swine flu. 3. Studies existed to show the effectiveness of masks, which were ignored. Here is one.. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30134-X/fulltext? Patronising attitude, ignoring past experiences, and/or sheer incompetence cost thousands of lives, especially in Western Europe. Can you imagine how many lives would have been saved if masks were common (especially in aged care homes) as they are in Asian countries, which by and large have blown Covid away. Even the subcontinent has miniscule death rates per mill by comparison, let alone East Asian countries. Yep, a lot wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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