Trump denies being told about Russian bounties to kill U.S. troops in Afghanistan

[Crazy Alex]

1 minute ago, The Barmbeker said:

I am sure doesn't KNOW anything!

Was he briefed?

Oy yes!

Did he just don't care!

Probably!

And now, that he is aware, it is the fake news, a hoax, the democrats, 5G or cancer making windmills...

How do you know he was briefed?

[Crazy Alex]

8 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Even his denial is incoherent and hard to believe. First he said he didn't see the intelligence brief then pivot to the intelligent report didn't amount to a sufficient credibility and now it's a hoax. 

Why do you think those two are at odds with each other?

[Crazy Alex]

6 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Just saying. American soldiers are well trained and armed and thus hard to kill and adversary risk life and limp to beg one. A financial incentive may motivate them. Russia want US out of Afghanistan and deaths of American soldiers are sensitive to the general US public and can hasten the withdrawal. 

Taliban says the bounties story is BS.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/dems-outraged-over-report-russia-offered-taliban-bounties-to-kill-us-troops/

[Phoenix Rising]

Just now, Crazy Alex said:

How do you know he was briefed?

Because Trump's a serial liar so if he says he wasn't briefed it's extremely likely he lied.

[Phoenix Rising]

Just now, Crazy Alex said:

Taliban says the bounties story is BS.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/dems-outraged-over-report-russia-offered-taliban-bounties-to-kill-us-troops/

OK, case closed then????

[johnpetersen]

15 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Taliban says the bounties story is BS.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/dems-outraged-over-report-russia-offered-taliban-bounties-to-kill-us-troops/

Makes sense. After all, why would the Taliban be ashamed of any links to the people who inflicted so much death, suffering, and destruction on the Afghans? Completely believable denial.

[Crazy Alex]

31 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

OK, case closed then????

Wow, who said that? Really, the case was never opened to begin with.

[ChouDoufu]

52 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

OK, case closed then????

 

but the report claims the information came from a captured taliban fighter.

 

if he's taliban, he must be lying?  ok then, case closed.  you've just let trump off the hook.

[Crazy Alex]

1 hour ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Because Trump's a serial liar so if he says he wasn't briefed it's extremely likely he lied.

I'm afraid I have some bad news for you:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-wh-aide-says-cia-official-decided-against-briefing-trump-on-russia-intel/ar-BB16d7ZW

[Crazy Alex]

45 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

Makes sense. After all, why would the Taliban be ashamed of any links to the people who inflicted so much death, suffering, and destruction on the Afghans? Completely believable denial.

Of course, it being the actual truth is a major factor.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-wh-aide-says-cia-official-decided-against-briefing-trump-on-russia-intel/ar-BB16d7ZW

[johnpetersen]

38 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Of course, it being the actual truth is a major factor.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-wh-aide-says-cia-official-decided-against-briefing-trump-on-russia-intel/ar-BB16d7ZW

Sounds believable. It was included in the brief written for the President but not orally presented by the CIA. Because putting something in writing is a lot less definitive than speaking it?

Edited July 2, 2020 by johnpetersen

[looking on the bright side]

If Trump is a serial liar, what is then Shifty Adam Shift? Interesting indeed, there is rarely any criticism directed to corrupt Democrats here. And they have created a kind of revolution in US because they can't win at the ballot box. They set up Flynn in order to stop and remove the duly elected President . The Russia collusion saga was a bubble . The impeachment was another stupid attempt. Now this BlackLivesMatter ,(it should be said All Lives Matter) with many looters and other sorts of criminals included trying to establish jungle law. The Dems have no stops in what they are prepared to do just to achieve this -Trump out and it is dangerous .

[johnpetersen]

Slotkin, Former Intelligence Briefer, Presses White House on Russia Reports
The experience of Representative Elissa Slotkin as an intelligence official told her there was something very unusual in the way the White House handled disturbing reports on Russia.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/us/politics/elissa-slotkin-russian-bounty.html

[Crazy Alex]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The issue right now is Trump’s failure to act and continue lobbying on behalf of Putin and Russia.

 

A story that isn’t going away.

Sorry, but Russiagate 3.0 has already been debunked.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-wh-aide-says-cia-official-decided-against-briefing-trump-on-russia-intel/ar-BB16d7ZW

 

I guess you can keep complaining about it rather than admit NYT has been busted lying yet again. Your right. Heck, has anything leftists have whined about Trump and Russia been true yet???? What happened to collusion? Oops!

[i84teen]

If such a critical concern why didn't schiff/schumer/pelosi et al bring this up 3 months ago? They are privy to the same POTUS intel briefing material.

 

Maybe cuz its another moronic democratic smear and is a big nuthin boy-guh. And, where was all the screamin dems when benghazi was smoked! They are such phony hypocrites!

Edited July 2, 2020 by i84teen

[johnpetersen]

6 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Sorry, but Russiagate 3.0 has already been debunked.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-wh-aide-says-cia-official-decided-against-briefing-trump-on-russia-intel/ar-BB16d7ZW

 

I guess you can keep complaining about it rather than admit NYT has been busted lying yet again. Your right. Heck, has anything leftists have whined about Trump and Russia been true yet???? What happened to collusion? Oops!

Lying about what? The NY Times alleged that the information was in the President's briefing paper. The White House has never denied that. What they say is that the President wasn't briefed orally. And they pretend that an intelligence report intended for the President with "brief" in its title somehow doesn't constitute a briefing. As for the information being deemed unreliable, very odd that it was put in writing. Did that just slip past?

[Chomper Higgot]

10 hours ago, i84teen said:

If such a critical concern why didn't schiff/schumer/pelosi et al bring this up 3 months ago? They are privy to the same POTUS intel briefing material.

 

Maybe cuz its another moronic democratic smear and is a big nuthin boy-guh. And, where was all the screamin dems when benghazi was smoked! They are such phony hypocrites!

The Democrats have zero control over the military or Intelligence services, these organizations are under the direct control of the President, it was/is for the President to respond.

 

Members of Congressional/Senate Intelligence committed (both Republican and Democrat) may have had access to this information but they have no means to control any military or Intelligence service response - Those powers reside with the President.

 

You cannot logically lay the blame on Democrat members of Intelligence Committees without also blaming the Republicans who also sit on those same committees and receive the very same briefings.

 

wrt your accusation of hypocrisy re-Benghazi/Bountygate, you’ve detected the hypocrisy but are 180 degrees wrong on where it is.

Edited July 3, 2020 by Chomper Higgot

[jcsmith]

14 hours ago, looking on the bright side said:

If Trump is a serial liar, what is then Shifty Adam Shift? Interesting indeed, there is rarely any criticism directed to corrupt Democrats here. And they have created a kind of revolution in US because they can't win at the ballot box. They set up Flynn in order to stop and remove the duly elected President . The Russia collusion saga was a bubble . The impeachment was another stupid attempt. Now this BlackLivesMatter ,(it should be said All Lives Matter) with many looters and other sorts of criminals included trying to establish jungle law. The Dems have no stops in what they are prepared to do just to achieve this -Trump out and it is dangerous .

Set up Flynn? He plead guilty. He was guilty. He admitted to it. 

As did Roger Stone. Convicted. Paul Manafort, convicted. Michael Cohen convicted, admits that Trump Moscow was in talks while Trump was denying it. Tower Meeting... Happened and his son is on record in an email saying if they had dirt on Hillary Clinton he loved it. Trump would only answer written questions, and then refused to answer follow up questions. Trump officials deleted and encrypted their transmissions. He was in no way exonerated there. He certainly obstructed, and there was plenty of evidence of wrongdoing, just not enough to criminally convict him, in part because of his refusal to cooperate. 

According to John Bolton the Ukraine case was just one of many that could have been brought. It should have impeached him. He did it once again. GOP simply doesn't care. 

Jungle Law? Your sheets are showing...

 

All to get Trump out? How about acknowledging the simple fact that he did all of the above. He did instruct his son to lie about the tower meeting. He did have his son, campaign manager, and son in law take a meeting with Russian officials promising dirt on his political opponent after he was warned by the FBI. He almost certainly instructed Flynn to make the call to Kislyak and then pressured them to drop the case. He did fire the man investigating him in Comey. He did try to pressure Ukraine to trump up charges on his political rival. He did gas protestors so he could have a photo op and urged governors to dominate the streets. He did promise to release his taxes and then spends the last four years fighting to keep them private. He did promise to divest his business, and then do nothing of the thing. He bent over backwards to support Putin the entire time, and if it wasn't as a payoff for election interference then it was to cover up something else. It's hard to imagine there being any other reason. He did all of that and more. You just don't care. 

[geriatrickid]

On 6/30/2020 at 10:44 AM, ChouDoufu said:

great!  you fell for it!

 

the fake news article made many unsourced, unproven, unverifiable claims.  one of the claims was that bolton briefed trump on the russian project.  get it?  unnamed officials claim bolton told trump.  it wasn't bolton on the teevee last night claiming that.

 

Bolton declined to comment Monday when asked by the AP if he had briefed Trump about the matter in 2019. On Sunday, he suggested to NBC’s “Meet the Press” that Trump was claiming ignorance of Russia’s provocations to justify his administration’s lack of a response.

 

https://apnews.com/425e43fa0ffdd6e126c5171653ec47d1

 

gosh, you'd think a man with a new book all about the evils of trump would jump at the chance to prove himself.   he's careful to not directly answer the questions.

 

Bolton said that if the reports are true, the U.S. should 'consider a number of strong measures against Russia.' 

 

and then this:

 

Bolton admitted to CNN's Jake Tapper that while he doesn't know about this specific situation detailed in the report, it sounded to him like an effort form the president to shift the responsibility away from himself.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8468117/Bolton-Trump-denying-knew-Russia-paid-Taliban-kill-troops-day-office.html

 

but wait, there's more!

 

John R. Bolton, Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, said on “This Week” that he was not aware of the intelligence assessment, but he questioned Mr. Trump’s response on Twitter.

 

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation-world/ct-nw-nyt-russia-taliban-troops-trump-20200628-bczkrdfrqbf7hcuieol5nvklnq-story.html

 

 

 

 

Not exactly. Watch Bolton clarifies his comments back that some interpret as  his denial. He  put  it very clearly in his interview with The Hill. He is now saying No Comment because of the litigation. However, he indirectly confirms that he told the President with his confirmation of what Susan Rice says she would have done.   One has to be in denial to believe that Bolton did not mention this to Trump. he would not go out of his way to lay it out in this way, if he had not  mentioned the issue. Listen to his explanation.

 

 

 

 

[shdmn]

On 7/1/2020 at 5:49 PM, Tug said:

It never ceases to amaze me that some still support trump after all of thease scandles getting Americans killed in the 10s of thousands due to the bungled covid response soliciting foreign interference in our elections getting our allies and their families killed(the Kurds)the dereliction of duty to protect the constitution now this behavior acting like an amorous puppy dog trying to hump Putin’s leg when that sob has a bounty on American troops it just beggers belief oh and trump your hoax spiel is getting a bit old better change up I don’t think even your supporters belive it anymore 

 

 

They are all traitors to their country, just like bunker boy.

[i84teen]

18 hours ago, The Barmbeker said:

Yup...and dismissed it!

Because THIS president, does not know how to find his behind, when the lights go out!

he had no trouble finding Soleimani and blowing his behind to kingdom come. BANG!

[i84teen]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Democrats have zero control over the military or Intelligence services, these organizations are under the direct control of the President, it was/is for the President to respond.

 

Members of Congressional/Senate Intelligence committed (both Republican and Democrat) may have had access to this information but they have no means to control any military or Intelligence service response - Those powers reside with the President.

 

You cannot logically lay the blame on Democrat members of Intelligence Committees without also blaming the Republicans who also sit on those same committees and receive the very same briefings.

 

wrt your accusation of hypocrisy re-Benghazi/Bountygate, you’ve detected the hypocrisy but are 180 degrees wrong on where it is.

wrong cuz higgot says so. My laugh for the day...lol. Whats real "wrong" is you.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

59 minutes ago, i84teen said:

wrong cuz higgot says so. My laugh for the day...lol. Whats real "wrong" is you.

 

It’s not my fault you don’t know the duties of various branches of the US Government.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, i84teen said:

he had no trouble finding Soleimani and blowing his behind to kingdom come. BANG!

Apart from the fact it wasn’t Trump doing any of that.

[Saint Nick]

20 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

How do you know he was briefed?

Okay...so what are you saying here?

Does he know more than we do?

Was he briefed?

Doesn't he know more?

Wasn't he briefed?

Was he briefed and declared it "fake news"?

Does that make him know more than us?

What is your point and why do you think, you can have it every possible way?

[Saint Nick]

3 hours ago, i84teen said:

he had no trouble finding Soleimani and blowing his behind to kingdom come. BANG!

HE had no trouble?

Seriously?

HE?

HIMSELF?

[Rimmer]

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[GalaxyMan]

18 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

HE had no trouble?

Seriously?

HE?

HIMSELF?

Well, to be fair, he did get all excited about the Belgian Malinois military service dog, Conan, that got Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, even though he was afraid to pet/touch him because he didn't want to get germs. He's nothing if not consistent. ???? Dog germs bad, coronavirus hoax. ????

[ChouDoufu]

7 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

Not exactly. Watch Bolton clarifies his comments back that some interpret as  his denial. He  put  it very clearly in his interview with The Hill. He is now saying No Comment because of the litigation. However, he indirectly confirms that he told the President with his confirmation of what Susan Rice says she would have done.   One has to be in denial to believe that Bolton did not mention this to Trump. he would not go out of his way to lay it out in this way, if he had not  mentioned the issue. Listen to his explanation.

 

 

 

 

hahhahhahahha!

 

no comment.  buy my book.

[ChouDoufu]

whew!  dodged a bullet there, eh?

we almost ended the longest war in american history.

lucky this "report" turned up just in time to put a stop to that!

 

 

House panel votes to constrain Afghan drawdown, ask for assessment on 'incentives' to attack US troops

 

The House Armed Services Committee voted Wednesday to put roadblocks on President Trump’s ability to withdraw from Afghanistan, including requiring an assessment on whether any country has offered incentives for the Taliban to attack U.S. and coalition troops.

 

The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) amendment, from Rep. Jason Crow (D-Colo.), would require several certifications before the U.S. military can further draw down in Afghanistan.

 

The amendment was approved 45-11.

 

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/505568-house-panel-votes-to-constrain-afghan-drawdown-ask-for-assessment-on