Popular Post webfact Posted July 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2020 Antavir – a new herbal weapon against Covid-19 By The Nation The Faculty of Medicine at King Mongkut’s Institute of Technology Ladkrabang (KMITL), along with Medicare Co Ltd, has launched “Antavir”, a herbal composition that is believed to help boost the body’s ability to fight infections like Covid-19. The herbal medication is believed to help improve immunity and is also said to be anti-inflammatory, an inhibitor of cytokine storm and is said to reduce growth of different viruses, which may prove to be helpful as Covid-19 continues spreading. Dr Anawat Sermswan, a cardiac specialist and dean for research, said KMITL had joined hands with the private sector to conduct research on herbs and the resulting Antavir has been granted a patent for three years. The project is backed by the National Research Council of Thailand, and KMITL had signed a memorandum of cooperation with the council in 2018. Dr Anawat Sermswan Antavir has been developed in the form of soft gel capsules to boost the absorption of active ingredients as well as increase the stability of key substances. The medication has been developed using modern extraction methods and substance wrapping technology. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30391805 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-07-23 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greenside Posted July 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2020 Believe it when you see the controlled scientific tests. 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shuya Posted July 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2020 Works about as great as a Thai vaccine... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted July 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2020 No doubt endorsed by Xi and CCP. They've been pushing snake oil since he got in power. 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) Please stop embarrassing yourself. I can feel a hub coming on.???? It is as almost as credible as bleach. Jeez. Edited July 23, 2020 by Laughing Gravy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 With this kind of stuff , proof of it's effectiveness is essential . Why not try Bravecto ? It helped my dogs to get rid of ticks ... 55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post French mate Posted July 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2020 Its perfectly ok. Dont forget placebo effect alone is responsable for 40% of the healing succes. Basicaly only people who believe in the effectiveness of this product will take it, and that alone will help a bunch of them. As long they didnt add dangerous component in it, its cant do harm, only good. Not to mention they have a possibility that he do some good other than the placebo effect, even if that minimal its would be a bonus. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnysunshine Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Great idea if they listed the herbs so we can see about their efficacy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dionigi Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 46 minutes ago, French mate said: Its perfectly ok. Dont forget placebo effect alone is responsable for 40% of the healing succes. Basicaly only people who believe in the effectiveness of this product will take it, and that alone will help a bunch of them. As long they didnt add dangerous component in it, its cant do harm, only good. Not to mention they have a possibility that he do some good other than the placebo effect, even if that minimal its would be a bonus. Any unproven medicine tends to lead people not to seek real effective care. http://whatstheharm.net/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petedk Posted July 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2020 Give them a chance. There is a minimal chance that they could succeed. How do you think penicillin, smallpox vaccinations and so on were discovered? I laughed at people eating Manuka Honey to protect against bacterial infections. Now I have read that surgeons spread a very very thin layer on the nylon mesh used in hernia operations to prevent infections. Others have used it in open wounds against bacterial infections. I know Thai researchers always seem to find the "miracle cure" for everything, but maybe, just maybe one day they will succeed. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Aylesham Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 But it doesn't claim to be a vaccine - simply a product to reinforce the body's immune response. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, johnnysunshine said: Great idea if they listed the herbs so we can see about their efficacy! what they are showing in the photo is stuff in the turmeric/ginger family. Used in Thai cooking quite a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) Join hands with Medicare co. ltd, repackage some anti viral herbs, play on words and create a new brand patent called Antavir, pocket the proceeds Edited July 24, 2020 by Bkk Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 not a word of the ingredients and google only gives the same article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunPer Posted July 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2020 Give it a chance, it might work – many proven medicines originates from herbs – and if it's not working, then always look at the bright side of life: It's probably more safe than drinking bleach...???? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sezze Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 36 minutes ago, khunPer said: Give it a chance, it might work – many proven medicines originates from herbs – and if it's not working, then always look at the bright side of life: It's probably more safe than drinking bleach...???? Couldn't agree more . By far most medicines are originated from plants/animals , where after research they found it was working and they also found out which compound was the active working one , and then or synthesise it or derive it from it . It is certainly more save then drinking bleach , since that has proven to be lethal . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I'm not sure if I - or any other prospective buyer for that matter - want to read "it is believed" in such an article. Either there's evidence that it works, or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, petedk said: Give them a chance. There is a minimal chance that they could succeed. How do you think penicillin, smallpox vaccinations and so on were discovered? I laughed at people eating Manuka Honey to protect against bacterial infections. Now I have read that surgeons spread a very very thin layer on the nylon mesh used in hernia operations to prevent infections. Others have used it in open wounds against bacterial infections. I know Thai researchers always seem to find the "miracle cure" for everything, but maybe, just maybe one day they will succeed. Honey was used as a anti-bacteria defense in roman days as well as vinager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, johnnysunshine said: Great idea if they listed the herbs so we can see about their efficacy! the CCP spies will then copy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Taking vitamin D might be just as effective. Currently being investigated as protection against covid-19. https:/research Square.com/article/rs-21211/v1 Maybe a connection between cave dwelling, night feeding by bats that spread coronaviruses and thus absence of vitamin D in their bloodstream because of inability to process from sunshine, unlike humans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Srikcir said: Maybe a connection between cave dwelling, night feeding by bats that spread coronaviruses and thus absence of vitamin D in their bloodstream because of inability to process from sunshine, unlike humans? Bats have a very unique immune system, I don't think that connection exists. Vit D is only good until you are not deficient anymore. Many are, so it's not a bad idea to top up a bit in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Srikcir said: Taking vitamin D might be just as effective. Currently being investigated as protection against covid-19. https:/research Square.com/article/rs-21211/v1 Maybe a connection between cave dwelling, night feeding by bats that spread coronaviruses and thus absence of vitamin D in their bloodstream because of inability to process from sunshine, unlike humans? bats carry a lot of virus but have proteins that other animals don't have, that makes them immune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 So let’s see the research. Does it come with an active amulet and a card reading? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I already take ginger and gingko biloba herbal capsules for my immune system. If you want me to try this new miracle medicine, at least mention what's inside the capsule? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) On 7/24/2020 at 8:37 AM, nobodysfriend said: With this kind of stuff , proof of it's effectiveness is essential . Why not try Bravecto ? It helped my dogs to get rid of ticks ... 55 Ivermectin is being used quite a bit in Central and South America and from what I've read, they are having success with it. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011 Highlights • Ivermectin is an inhibitor of the COVID-19 causative virus (SARS-CoV-2) in vitro. • A single treatment able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in virus at 48 h in cell culture. • Ivermectin is FDA-approved for parasitic infections, and therefore has a potential for repurposing. • Ivermectin is widely available, due to its inclusion on the WHO model list of essential medicines. It works just fine for ticks on my pack of dogs and we are happily tick free. Edited July 27, 2020 by steelepulse 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, steelepulse said: Ivermectin is being used quite a bit in Central and South America and from what I've read, they are having success with it. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011 Highlights • Ivermectin is an inhibitor of the COVID-19 causative virus (SARS-CoV-2) in vitro. • A single treatment able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in virus at 48 h in cell culture. • Ivermectin is FDA-approved for parasitic infections, and therefore has a potential for repurposing. • Ivermectin is widely available, due to its inclusion on the WHO model list of essential medicines. It works just fine for ticks on my pack of dogs and we are happily tick free. FDA Letter to Stakeholders: Do Not Use Ivermectin Intended for Animals as Treatment for COVID-19 in Humans The FDA’s Center for Veterinary Medicine has recently become aware of increased public visibility of the antiparasitic drug ivermectin after the announcement of a research article that described the effect of ivermectin on SARS-CoV-2 in a laboratory setting. The Antiviral Research pre-publication paper, “The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitroExternal Link Disclaimer,” documents how SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) responded to ivermectin when exposed in a petri dish. This type of study is commonly used in the early stages of drug development. Ivermectin was not given to people or animals in this study. Additional testing is needed to determine whether ivermectin might be safe or effective to prevent or treat coronavirus or COVID-19. https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/product-safety-information/fda-letter-stakeholders-do-not-use-ivermectin-intended-animals-treatment-covid-19-humans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: FDA Letter to Stakeholders: Do Not Use Ivermectin Intended for Animals as Treatment for COVID-19 in Humans The FDA’s Center for Veterinary Medicine has recently become aware of increased public visibility of the antiparasitic drug ivermectin after the announcement of a research article that described the effect of ivermectin on SARS-CoV-2 in a laboratory setting. The Antiviral Research pre-publication paper, “The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitroExternal Link Disclaimer,” documents how SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) responded to ivermectin when exposed in a petri dish. This type of study is commonly used in the early stages of drug development. Ivermectin was not given to people or animals in this study. Additional testing is needed to determine whether ivermectin might be safe or effective to prevent or treat coronavirus or COVID-19. https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/product-safety-information/fda-letter-stakeholders-do-not-use-ivermectin-intended-animals-treatment-covid-19-humans Tell that to all the countries that are using this effectively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, steelepulse said: Tell that to all the countries that are using this effectively. Yes for parasites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innosiem Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) On 7/24/2020 at 11:01 AM, Bender Rodriguez said: not a word of the ingredients and google only gives the same article 2 hours ago, balo said: I already take ginger and gingko biloba herbal capsules for my immune system. If you want me to try this new miracle medicine, at least mention what's inside the capsule? "Which the innovative herbal anti-covid-19 Contains components of the extract of Vap Ca, turmeric and white galingale to help prevent the division of the virus. Beta-glucan extract from yeast And reishi mushroom extract and cordyceps Boosts immunity And turmeric extract, white Krachai helps to stop the occurrence of cytokines that are a leading cause of respiratory failure as well." ???? Edited July 28, 2020 by innosiem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, steelepulse said: Ivermectin is being used quite a bit in Central and South America and from what I've read, they are having success with it. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011 Highlights • Ivermectin is an inhibitor of the COVID-19 causative virus (SARS-CoV-2) in vitro. • A single treatment able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in virus at 48 h in cell culture. • Ivermectin is FDA-approved for parasitic infections, and therefore has a potential for repurposing. • Ivermectin is widely available, due to its inclusion on the WHO model list of essential medicines. It works just fine for ticks on my pack of dogs and we are happily tick free. Human use is not uncommon and used "off label" for some very nasty diseases. I have used it orally for suspected microfilaria infection with zero noticeable side effects. I have also self administered an injectable form. That was painful in the extreme ! I feel for animals who have had a Vet use it on them ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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