Are you prepared?

[Sheryl]

16 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

OP, you have commented on the one thing that worries me quite a bit.  If Mrs P is away with her Mum in the  north, I am left here with my two dogs.  No doubt if I didn't pitch up at the gym, or the coffee shop (where my friends and I  tend to meet up) they would eventually come around to check on me, but that would be way too late in the case of a stroke or heart attack. I keep my phones close, but that may not help if I am incapacitated. My neighbours keep to themselves, as do I, so they would be no help.  I too don't know what the answer is, maybe there isn't one.  Just keep my fingers crossed I guess. 

 

Have your wife (or someone else, but she would seem the logical person) call you daily to check in. More than once a day if you are very old or in poor health. Even away in the north, she can call a neighbior to check on you and an ambulance if needed.

 

Good idea to make sure a neighbor has the keys to get in as well (also helpful if you get locked out!).

[Spaniel]

12 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

OP, you have commented on the one thing that worries me quite a bit.  If Mrs P is away with her Mum in the  north, I am left here with my two dogs.  No doubt if I didn't pitch up at the gym, or the coffee shop (where my friends and I  tend to meet up) they would eventually come around to check on me, but that would be way too late in the case of a stroke or heart attack. I keep my phones close, but that may not help if I am incapacitated. My neighbours keep to themselves, as do I, so they would be no help.  I too don't know what the answer is, maybe there isn't one.  Just keep my fingers crossed I guess. 

I hope you do not take this rather morbid reply to harshly.   I  do not recall if I read this on TV or another source but the story was the reported death of a farang who lived alone and had a pet dog.    Well the man died and no one was around for a few days and naturally the dog got hungry.     I think  you can guess the next line,   Well the dog feasted on his dead master!    Perhaps others can verify this?

[BritManToo]

Just now, Spaniel said:

I hope you do not take this rather morbid reply to harshly.   I  do not recall if I read this on TV or another source but the story was the reported death of a farang who lived alone and had a pet dog.    Well the man died and no one was around for a few days and naturally the dog got hungry.     I think  you can guess the next line,   Well the dog feasted on his dead master!    Perhaps others can verify this?

In the long run, I feel much safer with my pets.

 

[Pilotman]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

In the long run, I feel much safer with my pets.

 

Do they do CPR?

I imagine that if that happened to you they would be like rabbits in headlights . 

[Pilotman]

3 hours ago, Sheryl said:

 

Have your wife (or someone else, but she would seem the logical person) call you daily to check in. More than once a day if you are very old or in poor health. Even away in the north, she can call a neighbior to check on you and an ambulance if needed.

 

Good idea to make sure a neighbor has the keys to get in as well (also helpful if you get locked out!).

Yes, we exchange calls around 5 times a day when she is away. I'm not yet too old and I am in good health as far as I know, but as we know, these things can strike out of the blue, to the apparently fittest and healthiest of us.  

Edited August 9, 2020 by Pilotman

[Pilotman]

3 hours ago, Spaniel said:

I hope you do not take this rather morbid reply to harshly.   I  do not recall if I read this on TV or another source but the story was the reported death of a farang who lived alone and had a pet dog.    Well the man died and no one was around for a few days and naturally the dog got hungry.     I think  you can guess the next line,   Well the dog feasted on his dead master!    Perhaps others can verify this?

well if it feeds the dogs and keeps them alive until someone gets to the house, then it is a useful end for a body that is no longer needed. I could live with that ( terrible pun I know) ????

[EVENKEEL]

35 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

 

wrong guy PM sorry...

 

What are those spots on your hands....yikes, ahahaaa Old age sucks.

Edited August 9, 2020 by EVENKEEL

[thequietman]

I am not sure if I regard myself as lucky, but a recent MRI told my doctor that I have a rare difference with regards to my brain. In the womb, there is one, shall we call it 'vein' bringing blood to the brain. As we grow in mummy's tummy, this splits into 2 and one side provides the left side with blood, and the other the opposite side.

 

Mine didn't split, and so now, if I have a stroke, it is bye-bye for me. (15% of the world population have this, I am told) This has given me a kick in the <deleted> regarding exercise, to try to avoid a blot clot that normally causes a stroke. I exercise 6 days a week, and although I am not losing a great deal of weight now ( i did lose about 14-15 kg's initially. my fitness levels have grown. I have a resting heart rate of about 56, and hopefully my fitness can help me to avoid a stroke.

 

Blood pressure is good, and I try to eat the right food, although the evenings get me, as I get bored and so go to the fridge. ???? Count yourself lucky that you at least got a warning sign - for me, I don't get one - just sleepy bye-bye. ????

[thequietman]

4 hours ago, Pilotman said:

OP, you have commented on the one thing that worries me quite a bit.  If Mrs P is away with her Mum in the  north, I am left here with my two dogs.  No doubt if I didn't pitch up at the gym, or the coffee shop (where my friends and I  tend to meet up) they would eventually come around to check on me, but that would be way too late in the case of a stroke or heart attack. I keep my phones close, but that may not help if I am incapacitated. My neighbours keep to themselves, as do I, so they would be no help.  I too don't know what the answer is, maybe there isn't one.  Just keep my fingers crossed I guess. 

One of these babies would help. ????   https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SureSafe-Personal-Alarm-Elderly-Pendant-Medical-Alarm-System/272358835647?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3Da12b672289c744f39d7bfd58a211d1ae%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D232144395958%26itm%3D272358835647%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DDefaultOrganic&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

 

It calls 3 members of your family, once you press the alarm pendant button. ????

Edited August 9, 2020 by thequietman

[Sheryl]

5 hours ago, Pilotman said:

Yes, we exchange calls around 5 times a day when she is away. I'm not yet too old and I am in good health as far as I know, but as we know, these things can strike out of the blue, to the apparently fittest and healthiest of us.  

 

the you should be fine. Just make sure a neighbor has a set of keys so that if your wife can't reach you she has someone she can ask to pop over and check.

[BigStar]

11 hours ago, Spaniel said:

I have had high BP for the past 3 years which is kept under control by taking a daily BP med, Hyzaar.   I am not a fanatical dieter but I do watch what I eat and rarely eat between meals.  No Coke, Pepsi etc and limit sweets. As already mentioned I quit smoking when I was 27 and although never a heavy drinker I stopped and haven't had a alcholic drink in about 20 years.   I know,  what you're thinking.  What a boring life!  Maybe so but it works for my wife and I.   

Why did you develop high BP? Why couldn't you control it naturally w/o taking a med?

[tonray]

On 8/8/2020 at 10:00 AM, Spaniel said:

So, why did I have a stroke  in March?   Fortunately  my stroke was not too severe although I am still recovering. 

What type of stroke did you have ? 

[rumak]

On 8/8/2020 at 10:44 AM, KarenBravo said:

Possibly.........

Have many friends that sustained mild injuries during exercise when they were younger. Now that they are a lot older most of them have dodgy joints.

Golfers seem particularly prone to this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

the older golfers i know just seem to lose their balls

[rumak]

11 hours ago, BigStar said:

Why did you develop high BP? Why couldn't you control it naturally w/o taking a med?

asking people on this forum.... or most anywhere.... or suggesting that there are natural ways to

deal with many health issues,    is almost always met with a defensive rebuttal.   

 

I take some supplements (not tons).... and use some things like baking soda for many things :

as a natural cleaner, for washing clothes, brushing teeth (diluted !),  and even drink the stuff and

find it helps a lot to  prevent acid reflux and general stomach issues ( google Benefits of drinking baking soda .)   Of course,  there will be many google posts on the dangers of using baking soda.

Funded by big pharma ??    Note:  my friend takes a pill daily for acid reflux 

 

Maybe i am "just lucky".........  but just turned 70,  and BP is normal ,  heart is strong, don't need

any pharmaceuticals on a daily basis,  can get it up no problem ???? ,  etc etc

I would knock on wood..... but my fingers are a bit sore.  currently trying to work on a natural way

to deal with that.

 

yes, i did once have a pharmaceutical that cured me .    so understand that sometimes they are a

blessing.    But still maintain that natural cures exist for many many issues....along with lifestyle of course.

 

Naturally i must add that I am not a doctor.   And the answer to the question "do i think i know better than doctors" ......  from my life experience, the answer is "yes, many of them seem to have less knowledge than I do on (my) particular issues."

Go ahead and throw your darts........  tell the stories of how a doctor saved your life.

But individual cases do not create a basis for making general statements. 

I use them sometimes as "consultants" ...... then make a decision

 

Edited August 10, 2020 by rumak

[Pravda]

I'm looking at some of my relatives in Canada who lived unhealthy lives, didn't much care about taking care of themselves and some even continued smoking after a stroke. All are still alive and well and are pushing 80.

 

Some people are fooling themselves about Thailand if they think the quality of healthcare here is great even with the awesome health insurance that they have. 

 

Of course not everyone is lucky to have a Canadaian passport and the older I get the more I appreciate it. 

Edited August 10, 2020 by Pravda

[bwpage3]

The op raises a serious issue and most here blow it off and joke around because they know in the back of their minds if you have a heart attack you are probably a goner in Thailand before anyone can get you to a hospital.

 

No one really plans and accepts what can happen in old age until it happens. For many, that point is much too late.

 

The old mindset it will never happen to me and people get drunk everyday, eat unhealthy, never exercise. Sooner or later it catches up with everyone. When you don't have a plan, you will become a victim of your own stupidity.

 

For many it takes years before we finally wise up in old age to take care of ourselves the way we should have all along.

 

One thing I can take comfort in being back in the US, is I live 0.5 miles from a firehouse with ambulance service and 2.5 miles from a major hospital. My family is well instructed how to call 911 and have help on the way.

 

In Thailand there was no way I could get anywhere quickly in an emergency.

 

Unlike some, I want to live as long as I can.

 

Exercise, eat healthy, vitamins, happy stress free life.

 

Plan to continue working till age 75 or beyond to keep the brain sharp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Speedo1968]

14 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:

The op raises a serious issue and most here blow it off and joke around because they know in the back of their minds if you have a heart attack you are probably a goner in Thailand before anyone can get you to a hospital.

 

No one really plans and accepts what can happen in old age until it happens. For many, that point is much too late.

 

The old mindset it will never happen to me and people get drunk everyday, eat unhealthy, never exercise. Sooner or later it catches up with everyone. When you don't have a plan, you will become a victim of your own stupidity.

 

For many it takes years before we finally wise up in old age to take care of ourselves the way we should have all along.

 

One thing I can take comfort in being back in the US, is I live 0.5 miles from a firehouse with ambulance service and 2.5 miles from a major hospital. My family is well instructed how to call 911 and have help on the way.

 

In Thailand there was no way I could get anywhere quickly in an emergency.

 

Unlike some, I want to live as long as I can.

 

Exercise, eat healthy, vitamins, happy stress free life.

 

Plan to continue working till age 75 or beyond to keep the brain sharp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

OP = for me I am lucky where I am in Thailand, my house is 3km away from the govt hospital.  The ambulance when called arrived within 10 minutes, emergency intervention was given on arrival at the hospital to help lessen the effects of rhabdomyolysis ( caused by being prone on the floor for more than 2 days ).   This they determined did not go against my DNR which was lodged at the hospital several years ago, without the intervention my kidneys would have failed within a few hours so it is a debatable point but all merit to the hospital for their care.

In England during a short term visit some years ago I was in supported housing that had a pull cord in case of emergency to contact EMS.    I suffered a very bad TIA but managed to get to the pull cord.  Due to govt cut backs the local hospital 2km away had been closed so an ambulance had to come from the nearest hospital 35kms away on narrow country roads, it took almost 90 minutes.     I spent 5 days at the hospital.

Yes, I do as much as I can in the way of my vegan diet, yoga, floor exercises, walking in a park early morning and evening.   Most importantly I am comforted and at ease because I have made as many arrangements as possible to make things easier for others and to reduce "what if" stress on my self.

[CanadaSam]

On 8/9/2020 at 8:44 AM, Pilotman said:

I keep my phones close, but that may not help if I am incapacitated.

 

Please download this or any similar free app on to your phone, it places a button on your home screen that calls friends or neighbors or hospitals and informs them of an emergency.

 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rghvsapp.android.sosalert&hl=en

[trucking]

On 8/7/2020 at 8:39 PM, BritManToo said:

...... about 200Kcals according to Strava.

Anything less than 1,000Kcals is hardly worth the effort IMHO.

 

Good. I'll completely give up trying in that case and live out my final years in the most hedonistic , lotus eating way I can think of. Now turn on the porn hun and get a cold Lao Khao from the fridge . Oh and some salted peanuts to cock a snoot at my blood pressure.

[Speedo1968]

On 8/9/2020 at 10:14 AM, Pilotman said:

OP, you have commented on the one thing that worries me quite a bit.  If Mrs P is away with her Mum in the  north, I am left here with my two dogs.  No doubt if I didn't pitch up at the gym, or the coffee shop (where my friends and I  tend to meet up) they would eventually come around to check on me, but that would be way too late in the case of a stroke or heart attack. I keep my phones close, but that may not help if I am incapacitated. My neighbours keep to themselves, as do I, so they would be no help.  I too don't know what the answer is, maybe there isn't one.  Just keep my fingers crossed I guess. 

Why should the people at the coffee shop or gym be concerned enough to call to see if you are ok ?
Surely it is for Mrs P and you to have a simple "Hello, I'm Ok" text or phone message twice or three times a day.
Of course if I didn't visit my local street coffee stall for a sit and chat for some weeks but then when out and met them in the street they would say "Hello, how are you" but don't expect them to phone you.
Perhaps keeping to yourself as your neighbours keep to themselves is not a good idea for either party, can be like that everywhere but have you ever tried getting some kind of rapport with them, it can work both ways.

Get your documents in order and carry emergency details ( copy passport, contact numbers, hospital card, medical - it takes only a few pages of A4 folded to help others help you ) with you whenever you are out ( perhaps mention the dogs too ).   Have a copy on clear display in your house too.   
Sorry if this seems hard but it is the sad situation for many, falang and Thai alike.

[Speedo1968]

 

 

Please download this or any similar free app on to your phone, it places a button on your home screen that calls friends or neighbors or hospitals and informs them of an emergency.

 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rghvsapp.android.sosalert&hl=en

Thanks for that.  Before I install Is it that easy a one touch ?
Can it be used on a laptop as well as a phone ?

[BigStar]

1 hour ago, Pravda said:

I'm looking at some of my relatives in Canada who lived unhealthy lives, didn't much care about taking care of themselves and some even continued smoking after a stroke. All are still alive and well and are pushing 80.

 

Some people are fooling themselves about Thailand if they think the quality of healthcare here is great even with the awesome health insurance that they have. 

 

Of course not everyone is lucky to have a Canadaian passport and the older I get the more I appreciate it. 

Yah, everybody in Canada can drink like a fish, smoke, snort, and live to be 80 or longer. That's the key to longevity: a Canadian passport! Next.

 

Reminds me of George Burns' (who lived to 100) reply when asked what his doctors thought of his smoking 20 cigars a day, drinking 5 martinis a day, and being surrounded by beautiful young women: "My doctors are all dead."

[BigStar]

2 hours ago, rumak said:

asking people on this forum.... or most anywhere.... or suggesting that there are natural ways to

deal with many health issues,    is almost always met with a defensive rebuttal.   

Ain't that the truth? People know what they know and nobody wants to change a thing--which would require some effort & discipline--except pop a new pill the doc recommends. That's easy enough.

 

Friends of mine finally worked up to big bags of pills kept beside their recliners, just beyond the bags of Reese's Peanut Butter cups and M&Ms. At least 30 minutes a day were spent just taking pills. Had excellent medical care, having worked at gov't jobs, and spent millions at taxpayers' expense. Stents, knee replacements, surgeries, the works. Died in their early 70s anyway.

Edited August 10, 2020 by BigStar

[ChaiyaTH]

On 8/8/2020 at 10:29 AM, BritManToo said:

I'm 64, cycle 20Km/day, hike in the mountains often ...... doubt I'll make 70, none of my family do.

You will get very old just because God is done with you saying otherwise hehehe

[CanadaSam]

1 hour ago, Speedo1968 said:

Thanks for that.  Before I install Is it that easy a one touch ?
Can it be used on a laptop as well as a phone ?

 

The phone app is very easy, but initially you have to enter the phone numbers you want the app to call in case of emergency.  It also sends a google maps of your exact location, so you could use it to summon help wherever you are at the time.  I am not sure about a laptop, because how would a laptop dial phone numbers, do you have a SIM in your laptop?  I will do some research into it for you.  Wish you a long and happy life.

[rumak]

after my morning routine of  fresh organic herbs from the French alps,  some green tea hand

picked from Sri Lankan historic sites,  45 minutes of nail bed yoga,  a refreshing ice bath and

some essential herb therapy I am now ready for the most important preparation :

 

I calmly lie on the floor,  and using all my training from my vocal projection exercises yell :

 

          CHUAY  DUAY !    CHUAY DUAY !   

[KarenBravo]

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

Ain't that the truth? People know what they know and nobody wants to change a thing--which would require some effort & discipline--except pop a new pill the doc recommends. That's easy enough.

 

Friends of mine finally worked up to big bags of pills kept beside their recliners, just beyond the bags of Reese's Peanut Butter cups and M&Ms. At least 30 minutes a day were spent just taking pills. Had excellent medical care, having worked at gov't jobs, and spent millions at taxpayers' expense. Stents, knee replacements, surgeries, the works. Died in their early 70s anyway.

If scientific evidence for these natural cures doesn't pass exhaustive testing, then thses cures should be thrown in the bin.

I bet that if Steve Jobs could come back, he would now go with mainstream medical advice to attack cancer instead of the "natural" cures that robbed him of valuable limited time, which ultimately cost him his life.

I'll believe in natural cures once scientists have tested and confirmed the effectiveness of these cures. Anything else is just quackery.

Edited August 10, 2020 by KarenBravo

[rumak]

1 hour ago, KarenBravo said:

If scientific evidence for these natural cures doesn't pass exhaustive testing, then thses cures should be thrown in the bin.

I bet that if Steve Jobs could come back, he would now go with mainstream medical advice to attack cancer instead of the "natural" cures that robbed him of valuable limited time, which ultimately cost him his life.

I'll believe in natural cures once scientists have tested and confirmed the effectiveness of these cures. Anything else is just quackery.

the first robot speaks.........

 

as pointed out, it is useless trying to "persuade" you that your blind faith in the mainstream medical system is not all you think   ,  no..... thought did not go into

it.  Just read and believe.   I will give you just ONE example of the bad effects some

can suffer from prescription meds.   https://medshadow.org/fluoroquinolones-antibiotics/

The mainstream thinking on this forum of course says that there are always some slight danger ............etc  etc   .   I am not here to argue.  you believe in your quackery, i'll follow what has worked very well for me

Edited August 10, 2020 by rumak

[BigStar]

1 hour ago, KarenBravo said:

If scientific evidence for these natural cures doesn't pass exhaustive testing, then thses cures should be thrown in the bin.

Problem is, people often ignore or won't accept thses proven natural cures, prevention, or at least postponement. These often involve a change of lifestyle. ????

 

13 Habits Linked to a Long Life (Backed by Science)

 

Such was the case w/ my friends I mentioned. In fact they stayed in denial about the proven natural remedies and chose to rely upon the scientifically proven pills as they sat all day in their recliners in front of a huge TV, pigging out on junk. A lot of the problems I see in this forum should have been, barring genetic flaws or accidents, preventable and were no doubt predictable. 

[KarenBravo]

5 minutes ago, rumak said:

the first robot speaks.........

Try refuting my post instead of a very weak attempt at humour.