UK steps up plans to tackle migrant Channel crossings with new commander

[simple1]

2 hours ago, katana said:

Not sure which link you mean. The Reuter's link you quoted has no mention of 28 days/1month and states Serco have a 10 year £1.9 billion contract, along with Mears who have a £1 billion contract.
If you mean the Independent link you quoted earlier, will have to take your word for it since it won't load with an ad-blocker.
Assuming the information from The Independent is correct that they are moved out of the hotel after a short period and is not just some damage limitation exercise on Serco's part, the contract is for 10 years which means there is anticipated to be a constant stream of migrants coming in to the hotel for the lifetime of this government and beyond and it won't just be for 28 days.

Yes, The Independent. i have no knowledge of the T&Cs of the Serco contract, nor do you. Your assumption regards the hotel are frankly, ridiculous.

[katana]

The length and cost of the contract are reported in the Reuter's article. Improve your comprehension skills.

Edited August 16, 2020 by katana

[simple1]

1 hour ago, Opl said:

so asylum seekers who paid thousands to smugglers could as well pay a small fee, right? 

GST

[simple1]

20 minutes ago, katana said:

The length and cost of the contract are reported in the Reuter's article. <SNIP>

So what. I was referring to your highly speculative comment concerning the hotel. The Reuters stuff is very high-level summary, no details, bit more detail from Serco...

 

https://www.serco.com/media-and-news/2019/serco-awarded-uk-asylum-support-services-contracts-with-an-estimated-value-of-19bn-sercos-largest-ever-contract-award

 

FYI more info on Serco issues...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/20/serco-given-new-asylum-housing-contracts-despite-68m-fines-for-failings#:~:text=Serco was fined a total,contract in north-west England.

Edited August 16, 2020 by simple1

[bert bloggs]

the govt have signed a 4 billion pound ,10 year contract with at least 20 hotels to house and feed economic migrants. this does not include the money they give each one every week 

In other news after paying in for 44 years i am on a frozen pension and a few months ago had my wifes allowance of 70 pounds a week taken off me as it is no longer paid to British pensioners .

 

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[katana]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

So what. I was referring to your highly speculative comment concerning the hotel. The Reuters stuff is very high-level summary, no details, bit more detail from Serco...

 

https://www.serco.com/media-and-news/2019/serco-awarded-uk-asylum-support-services-contracts-with-an-estimated-value-of-19bn-sercos-largest-ever-contract-award

 

FYI more info on Serco issues...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/20/serco-given-new-asylum-housing-contracts-despite-68m-fines-for-failings#:~:text=Serco was fined a total,contract in north-west England.

No more speculative than a lot of your posts. The word projection springs to mind.
Since you like posting links, here's one to Nigel Farage discussing the 48k illegal migrants currently being put up in UK hotels.

 

[Scott]

A post violating Fair Use Policy has been removed. 

 

[elliss]

23 hours ago, katana said:

Thank you for finally agreeing.

 

Not sure how temporary that is. Serco was recently awarded a 1.9 Billion, 10 year contract to house migrants. Nice work if you can get it.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-serco-group-contract/serco-mears-win-2-9-billion-refugee-housing-contracts-in-britain-idUKKCN1P216Z

 

 

     Whose snouts , are in the trough .?

Aka , freedom fighters ...555

 

Edited August 16, 2020 by elliss

[izod10]

4 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 If you voted Leave because of migrants/refugees/asylum seekers, (whatever you want to call them) then you fell for a Farage lie and are going to be sorely disappointed come 1/1/21.

 

 

Is that right? you do not have a clue,but nor does anybody else,...but personally speaking. It gives me great pleasure to know new laws are being drafted to deal with the scum.  Whole areas of UK are blighted by corralling the scum,let them wander just a little bit off base and their lives are threatened

[Opl]

"Priti Patel: Migrants crossing Channel as they believe France is racist. "Migrants are crossing the Channel to Britain because they believe France is a “racist country” where they may be “tortured”, Priti Patel has said. “They claim they feel discriminated against when, for example, looking for work in France. Others claimed they feared being tortured if they stayed in France or Germany."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/16/priti-patel-migrants-crossing-channel-uk-they-believe-france-racist

So then, finally they  are fleeing France and seeking for asylum in the UK, the nearest safe country.  I believe they trust Priti's statement for obvious reasons, and it's not totally untrue, when it comes to discrimination for obvious reasons too.      

  

 

Edited August 16, 2020 by Opl

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, bert bloggs said:

the govt have signed a 4 billion pound ,10 year contract with at least 20 hotels to house and feed economic migrants. this does not include the money they give each one every week 

In other news after paying in for 44 years i am on a frozen pension and a few months ago had my wifes allowance of 70 pounds a week taken off me as it is no longer paid to British pensioners .

From today's Mail on Sunday:

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Casually tapping on their smartphones and smoking in the sunshine, the young men gathered outside the once grand, but now slightly downmarket, hotel appeared carefree and relaxed. 

Their untroubled, if somewhat bored, demeanour is perhaps no surprise. 

Having successfully reached the UK as asylum seekers, they are now guests of the British taxpayer(✓) with free accommodation, three meals a day and a £39.60 weekly spending allowance..... 

Up to 50 hotels across Britain benefit from £4billion ten-year contract to house asylum seekers

A livestream from Catherine Blaiklock has been uploaded on Hearts of Oak YT channel. She visited Dover last week and explains what she encountered while there.

 

Edited August 16, 2020 by evadgib

[nausea]

It's an industry, I used to work in it. The number of genuine asylum seekers is miniscule, believe me. You almost drop down dead when you meet a guy or woman who is genuinely fleeing political persecution, as opposed to a someone who just wants a better life. Oh, I loved those cases, presenting the torture pictures was particularly fulfilling. Yeah, with the proper medical support you can do this, never met an adjudicator yet who wasn't swayed.

Edited August 16, 2020 by nausea

[shdmn]

Funny how these "hey look over there, see those dirty illegal immigrants commin to take yer jaabs" stories always come out when there are negative Brexit stories bubbling up into the main stream.

[candide]

1 hour ago, shdmn said:

Funny how these "hey look over there, see those dirty illegal immigrants commin to take yer jaabs" stories always come out when there are negative Brexit stories bubbling up into the main stream.

It's even more funny to know that UK law directly derives from having signed the Geneva convention as a country (not as EU member State). On top of it, after leaving the EU, it will likely not benefit any more from the Dublin regulation and will not have the right to send back refugees to the country of entry into the EU.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 8/15/2020 at 10:55 PM, Greghuntleyuk said:

Like it or not the super rich and big corporations employ many workers in real jobs not financed by the taxpayer, while asylum seekers contribute zero tax and support mainly bureaucrats.

 

If they are genuine asylum seekers fleeing death, one might assume just not being threatened with death is worth living on 37 quid a week.

[simple1]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Like it or not the super rich and big corporations employ many workers in real jobs not financed by the taxpayer, while asylum seekers contribute zero tax and support mainly bureaucrats.

 

If they are genuine asylum seekers fleeing death, one might assume just not being threatened with death is worth living on 37 quid a week.

Many MNCs enjoy tax incentives as well as avoid paying local taxes as has been proven by ongoing attempts by governments to recoup their tax obligations. To blankly say they are not financed by the taxpayer is not accurate.

 

Asylum seekers are usually not permitted to work, so how can they pay tax other than on purchases.

[evadgib]

It gets worse; Farage has uploaded footage of a fully laden hotel in Pritti Patel's own constituency overnight! ????

[simple1]

9 hours ago, katana said:

No more speculative than a lot of your posts. The word projection springs to mind.
Since you like posting links, here's one to Nigel Farage discussing the 48k illegal migrants currently being put up in UK hotels.

 

I deleted the Farage video as he operates in the same manner as trump I suppose people like him as he supports their bias; frankly I find him revolting. Farage is a conman using false and misleading statements. e.g. it is a lie to claim 48,000 'illegals' are housed in hotels.

 

According to the National Audit Office, 48,000 asylum seekers were under new accommodation contracts as of March 2020. Of these, around 1,000 are housed in hotels each night

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-uk-housing-48000-illegal-im/fact-check-the-uk-is-not-housing-48000-illegal-immigrants-in-hotels-each-night-idUSKCN2592DV

 

 

Edited August 16, 2020 by simple1

[Scott]

Inflammatory post and reply reported and removed.   Please keep it civil.

 

[Rimmer]

A troll post generalizing about all immigrants has been removed

[evadgib]

Further to #229:

 

[simple1]

39 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Further to #229:

<SNIP>

The only stuff Farage is doing is stirring @#$%. HMG is obliged to accommodate asylum seekers until they are assessed, in the meantime not permitted to work so wouldn't be able to pay for their own accommodation. What has Farage personally actually achieved by way of legislation to resolve asylum seeker issues in the UK - nothing.

Edited August 17, 2020 by simple1

[transam]

22 minutes ago, simple1 said:

The only stuff Farage is doing is stirring @#$%. HMG is obliged to accommodate asylum seekers until they are assessed, in the meantime not permitted to work so wouldn't be able to pay for their own accommodation. What has Farage personally actually achieved by way of legislation to resolve asylum seeker issues in the UK - nothing.

Well yes, the anti-establishment will side with illegals, for sure.

The UK border force is costing the UK bundles going round UK shops, sweat shops, borders, searching to finding illegal immigrants working and folk exploiting their visas, then we have the illegal immigrant protection brigade protecting them.

Doesn't matter which way you look at it, it is costing the taxpayer and legit businesses...

 

I feel a 'link' appearing shortly.....????

[simple1]

14 minutes ago, transam said:

Well yes, the anti-establishment will side with illegals, for sure.

The UK border force is costing the UK bundles going round UK shops, sweat shops, borders, searching to finding illegal immigrants working and folk exploiting their visas, then we have the illegal immigrant protection brigade protecting them.

Doesn't matter which way you look at it, it is costing the taxpayer and legit businesses...

 

I feel a 'link' appearing shortly.....????

 

You haven't answered my point - what has Farage personally achieved with enacting legislation to address asylum seeker concerns in the UK.

 

So far haven't seen anything that promotes support for 'illegals' as defined in UK law (see below) However, I'm anti right of centre.

 

https://fullfact.org/immigration/can-refugees-enter-uk-illegally/

[transam]

12 minutes ago, simple1 said:

You haven't answered my point - what has Farage personally achieved with enacting legislation to address asylum seeker concerns in the UK.

 

So far haven't seen anything that promotes support for 'illegals' as defined in UK law (see below) However, I'm anti right of centre.

 

https://fullfact.org/immigration/can-refugees-enter-uk-illegally/

I don't know what he has achieved YET, but he was the main instigator to get Brexit done, so be patient, he may well achieve his goal, and will upset the anti-establishment brigade...

[Laughing Gravy]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

The only stuff Farage is doing is

telling the truth that some people with their heads in the sand do nothing but complain about and try to play the ever so typical R card. Farage has been saying this and exposing it for ages.

 

Some people need to look exactly where many of these refugees come from and see they are being conned. I am still trying to work out which is worse being gullible or plain thick.

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

The only stuff Farage is doing is stirring @#$%. HMG is obliged to accommodate asylum seekers until they are assessed, in the meantime not permitted to work so wouldn't be able to pay for their own accommodation. What has Farage personally actually achieved by way of legislation to resolve asylum seeker issues in the UK - nothing.

Pretending not to know the difference between bona-fide asylum seekers and illegal immigrants adds nothing whatsoever to this de-bait. ????

Edited August 17, 2020 by evadgib

[simple1]

46 minutes ago, transam said:

I don't know what he has achieved YET, but he was the main instigator to get Brexit done, so be patient, he may well achieve his goal, and will upset the anti-establishment brigade...

Thank you for acknowledging fact. Only history will tell if Brexit was the right decision for the UK or not. 

 

Curious to know your definition of the "anti-establishment brigade" in the UK.

[CorpusChristie]

Just now, simple1 said:

 

 

Curious to know your definition of the "anti-establishment brigade" in the UK.

Take a guess 

[simple1]

11 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Pretending not to know the difference between bona-fide asylum seekers and illegal immigrants adds nothing whatsoever to this de-bait. ????

I'm fully aware of the definitions under UK law, are you?