47 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

OK enough of this. Please provide concrete evidence to prove Trump is a racist. His gargantuan efforts to include black workers in the economic boom was incredible. Those jobs, we remember, we NEVER coming back, yet Trump brought them back. I have never heard Trump speak ill of blacks, unlike Biden who recently claimed blacks are not "real blacks" if they didn't vote for him, and that black culture has no diversity compared to other ethnicities such as Latinos. Both howling examples of racism. Trump is not a racist, and your repeated misinformation without credible supporting evidence is becoming very silly. You don't like him, fine. But stop making up lies, as per the forum rules. TY.

Try the following for evidence of Trump's racism.

 

Donald Trump's long history of racism

 

Just one example from the article - John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump as follows:

 

Quote

“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

 

Trump later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

More examples here:

 

Trump's racism - an oral history

 

15 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Try the following for evidence of Trump's racism.

 

Donald Trump's long history of racism

 

Just one example from the article - John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump as follows:

 

More examples here:

 

Trump's racism - an oral history

 

And much more recently...

Trump And His Campaign Amplify Untrue 'Birther' Conspiracy Against Kamala Harris

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/13/902362014/trump-and-his-campaign-amplify-birther-conspiracy-against-kamala-harris

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

They are not terrorists. That kind of rhetoric is sick and disgusting. 

 

There have of course been some bad actors on the street. 

 

They do not represent the BLM movement. 

 

In fact some of them are false flag right wingers. 

 

Also of course looting is not protest. Looting does not represent the BLM movement. 

Coming from someone that posted

 

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

its stickier to know about his family background of draft dodging and support of white supremacist ideology, even possibly a KKK connection. 

I'm amazed that you actually wrote That kind of rhetoric is sick and disgusting.

2 hours ago, Sujo said:

Wasnt that her job, to prosecute criminals. Perhaps you would prefer she didnt, but im for law and order.

Prosecuting criminals was her job, but she over prosecuted some and kept (at least one) person behind bars for 18  years because she refused to release evidence. He was exonerated and received an 18 million dollar settlement. A lot of her convictions were marijuana related which is now legal in California. 

She was the resident loud mouth at the supreme court nomination hearing and said that we should believe Ms Ford (no evidence) because she was a woman, but sleazy joe gets a pass from his accusers. The list gets longer, but she only want her's. 

23 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Coming from someone that posted

 

I'm amazed that you actually wrote That kind of rhetoric is sick and disgusting.

yes i agree trump is sick and disgusting.

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

Tell that to the business owners who lost everything or the police who were injured or lost their lives.

 

Tell that to the 100's of cops who are laid off in Portland to pacify the terrorists aka blm, antifa. They looted and burned till the city to it's knees. Oh please blm we'll defund the police if you stop looting and burning. Now that's truly disgusting. 

Please substantiate your claim that 100's of cops  have been laid off in Portland and that  business owners have lost "everything".

 

The Portland police budget in 2017 was $214.9MM

The 2020-21 budget  is $229.3 MM  

 

How could 100's of police officers even be laid off in Portland when the police department only has about 900  uniformed officers? 

 

Portland like all major cities is experiencing tax revenue shortfalls due to Covid19 impact .  There may be some budget reduction (approx. $3MM in Q4 if state and federal funds are not  received. 

 

In respect to your claim on the impact of the riots, damage is estimated at approx. $5MM. Commercial insurance and state restitution programs are  covering much of the losses. There are no reports of businesses losing "everything" due to the  riots and vandalism.

 

You have two options; substantiate your claim or retract it. 

 

5 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

Prosecuting criminals was her job, but she over prosecuted some and kept (at least one) person behind bars for 18  years because she refused to release evidence. He was exonerated and received an 18 million dollar settlement. A lot of her convictions were marijuana related which is now legal in California. 

She was the resident loud mouth at the supreme court nomination hearing and said that we should believe Ms Ford (no evidence) because she was a woman, but sleazy joe gets a pass from his accusers. The list gets longer, but she only want her's. 

They were convicted because it was illegal. Dont you like law and order.

 

What charges is joe up on, did he grab em by the pussy?

9 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

Prosecuting criminals was her job, but she over prosecuted some and kept (at least one) person behind bars for 18  years because she refused to release evidence. He was exonerated and received an 18 million dollar settlement. A lot of her convictions were marijuana related which is now legal in California. 

She was the resident loud mouth at the supreme court nomination hearing and said that we should believe Ms Ford (no evidence) because she was a woman, but sleazy joe gets a pass from his accusers. The list gets longer, but she only want her's. 

You cannot have it both ways. On one hand you folks call her a commie lib-tard, an angry  woman seeking to push her liberalism on everyone,  and here you attack her for  fulfilling her duties and obligations to uphold the laws that were in effect.

10 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Please substantiate your claim that 100's of cops  have been laid off in Portland and that  business owners have lost "everything".

 

The Portland police budget in 2017 was $214.9MM

The 2020-21 budget  is $229.3 MM  

 

How could 100's of police officers even be laid off in Portland when the police department only has about 900  uniformed officers? 

 

Portland like all major cities is experiencing tax revenue shortfalls due to Covid19 impact .  There may be some budget reduction (approx. $3MM in Q4 if state and federal funds are not  received. 

 

In respect to your claim on the impact of the riots, damage is estimated at approx. $5MM. Commercial insurance and state restitution programs are  covering much of the losses. There are no reports of businesses losing "everything" due to the  riots and vandalism.

 

You have two options; substantiate your claim or retract it. 

 

A simple search will find at least 100 cops are to be laid off, ....fact

14 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Please substantiate your claim that 100's of cops  have been laid off in Portland and that  business owners have lost "everything".

 

The Portland police budget in 2017 was $214.9MM

The 2020-21 budget  is $229.3 MM  

 

How could 100's of police officers even be laid off in Portland when the police department only has about 900  uniformed officers? 

 

Portland like all major cities is experiencing tax revenue shortfalls due to Covid19 impact .  There may be some budget reduction (approx. $3MM in Q4 if state and federal funds are not  received. 

 

In respect to your claim on the impact of the riots, damage is estimated at approx. $5MM. Commercial insurance and state restitution programs are  covering much of the losses. There are no reports of businesses losing "everything" due to the  riots and vandalism.

 

You have two options; substantiate your claim or retract it. 

 

Two more options: double down without proof or simply ignore your post. No chance he'll go for your options.

37 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

Prosecuting criminals was her job, but she over prosecuted some and kept (at least one) person behind bars for 18  years because she refused to release evidence. He was exonerated and received an 18 million dollar settlement. A lot of her convictions were marijuana related which is now legal in California. 

She was the resident loud mouth at the supreme court nomination hearing and said that we should believe Ms Ford (no evidence) because she was a woman, but sleazy joe gets a pass from his accusers. The list gets longer, but she only want her's. 

And - then - citizen Trump - it was not his job -  Central Park Five calling for death penalty (The $85,000 worth of ads were published on May 1, 1989, in The New York Times, The Daily News, The New York Post and New York Newsday.) ""They should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes. They must serve as examples for their crimes, 'of course I hate these people and let's all hate these people because maybe hate is what we need if we're gonna get something done.'

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/19/what-trump-has-said-central-park-five/1501321001/

 

Law & Order VS Hate, US voters will decide.   

 

Edited August 15, 20205 yr by Opl

37 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Coming from someone that posted

 

I'm amazed that you actually wrote That kind of rhetoric is sick and disgusting.

Did you miss my point on purpose? 

 

If so that is sleazy. 

 

My point again is that regardless of Kamala's ancestors behavior you won't find any speech or actions showing she supports slavery now or in the past. 

 

45 on the other hand is a totally different ballgame. Yes you will find racist and draft dodging dirt on his ancestors. But unlike Kamala you will also find a treasures trove of racist speech and actions along with his own draft dodging from the man himself. 

 

So if he was innocent of those sins I would say his background is irrelevant. But he's not innocent at all so it becomes more relevant how he developed to the horrible human being and president that he is. 

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Two more options: double down without proof or simply ignore your post. No chance he'll go for your options.

It's really up to you. Your the one in a tissy, but you like to deflect and tell others to prove it etc. 

17 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

You cannot have it both ways. On one hand you folks call her a commie lib-tard, an angry  woman seeking to push her liberalism on everyone,  and here you attack her for  fulfilling her duties and obligations to uphold the laws that were in effect.

No I says she self centered and aggressive and will do or say anything to get her way. 

27 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

A simple search will find at least 100 cops are to be laid off, ....fact

 

 

 

Think you're confusing with Seattle, 100 Police not in front line duties were laid off / not to be replaced. Portland, budget has been passed (see below) and some police units were disbanded, including the gun violence unit. The gun violence unit members will be allocated to patrol units. 

 

https://katu.com/news/local/portland-commissioners-vote-to-end-school-resource-officers-dissolve-gun-violence-reduction-team

Edited August 15, 20205 yr by simple1

20 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

A simple search will find at least 100 cops are to be laid off, ....fact

First you claim 100's of cops have been laid off. Now it's "at least 100 cops are to be laid off,, ....fact".

Confused, or have you been spending too much time on fake news websites?

Edited August 15, 20205 yr by Phoenix Rising

4 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

No I says she self centered and aggressive and will do or say anything to get her way. 

So, completely different from trump, right??

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Think you're confusing with Seattle, 100 Police not in front line duties were laid off / not to be replaced. Portland, budget has been passed (see below) and some police unites were disbanded, including the gun violence unit. The gun violence unit members will be allocated to patrol units. 

 

https://katu.com/news/local/portland-commissioners-vote-to-end-school-resource-officers-dissolve-gun-violence-reduction-team

Possible, it get hard to remember the correct order of defunding. I didn't read it all but JHC, the insanity just keeps rolling on.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/08/06/at-least-11-cities-are-defunding-their-police-departments/

7 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

First you claim 100's of cops have been laid off. Now it's "at least 100 cops are to be laid off,, ....fact".

Confused, or have you been spending too much time on fake news websites?

I posted a link days ago, You could try reading, see the link a few posts down. 11 cities are now part of defunding.

 

9 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I posted a link days ago, You could try reading, see the link a few posts down. 11 cities are now part of defunding.

 

Not what you originally claimed but it's interesting to see your claim "evolving" after you've been fact checked/shamed.

Edited August 15, 20205 yr by Phoenix Rising

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Possible, it get hard to remember the correct order of defunding. I didn't read it all but JHC, the insanity just keeps rolling on.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/08/06/at-least-11-cities-are-defunding-their-police-departments/

Think you will find police who are to be laid off / not replaced will not be from front line duties. Funds will be reallocated to other departments so they can step up with handling matters such as homelessness, mentally ill, parking enforcement etc. Should crime increase you would be fairly certain there will be a realignment with policy / budgets. I suggest you can define the response to current situation a social experiment with attempting to deescalate tensions and social grievances. 

7 hours ago, riclag said:

*Deleted post edited out*

 

 Thank you!  It ain't politics no more!  harris and bidens , far left radical supporters,  many of them want to burn down the system!

 

 

Perhaps rather than burning down the system, it might be a better idea to upgrade it and drag it kicking and screaming into the 21st digital century. Maybe wait until this election is finished and then overhaul the whole electoral system. 

"See how the latest state-by-state polling data would translate into electoral college votes and use FT’s interactive calculator to zero in on the crucial battleground states"

https://ig.ft.com/us-election-2020/

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

And much more recently...

Trump And His Campaign Amplify Untrue 'Birther' Conspiracy Against Kamala Harris

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/13/902362014/trump-and-his-campaign-amplify-birther-conspiracy-against-kamala-harris

Birther equals raciest.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Coming from someone that posted

 

I'm amazed that you actually wrote That kind of rhetoric is sick and disgusting.

That really sounds dumb. Re-read your posting.

6 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Again I think it's so cute to have non Americans get so involved. Thank you.

you're welcome, but I'm not Russian

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Retardlicans are all over the place this morning. Still recovering from Kamala’s appointment and the excitement she and Biden have generated as against the sleepy slow-mo Trump-Pence briefings. 

Raised over a million an hour in the first 48 hours

5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Again I think it's so cute to have non Americans get so involved. Thank you.

Less of the snide personal remarks. You well know anyone can post to any topic, no matter thier nationality. trump has failed with his social management policies, or rather lack of. IMO very timely to endeavour to find a more equitable path.

 

BTW you do understand, don't you, trump supporters are the minority in the USA?

48 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I posted a link days ago, You could try reading, see the link a few posts down. 11 cities are now part of defunding.

 

Don't you remember it was removed as fake and unsubstantiated?

37 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Think you will find police who are to be laid off / not replaced will not be from front line duties. Funds will be reallocated to other departments so they can step up with handling matters such as homelessness, mentally ill, parking enforcement etc. Should crime increase you would be fairly certain there will be a realignment with policy / budgets. I suggest you can define the response to current situation a social experiment with attempting to deescalate tensions and social grievances. 

Whoa hoss, all your opinion. Innut that right Mate.