Popular Post webfact Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 Gentrification of Walking Street will see unsightly cables buried underground Picture: Sophon Cable TV The authorities in Pattaya have come up up with a cunning plan to bury the unsightly wires and cables in Walking Street but avoid digging up the whole road. It involves using drains that are not in use. City Hall deputy Kiatisak Sriwongchai was on site yesterday to explain matters. He said that the wire burying by the Provincial Electricity Authority was necessary to beautify Walking Street and make the area safe and sound for tourists, local businesses and the public. But there have been delays. Picture: Sophon Cable TV The wires needed to be buried 1.5 to 2 meters underground. But it was felt that digging a huge trench all the way along the street might have a detrimental effect on tourism in the area. Sophon, in their report on Facebook, didn't mention the fact that there is almost no tourism anyway, but Thaivisa digresses. It would have gone on for months and months, too, said Kiatisak. In addition it was discovered that some of the area was too narrow with the pipe being as wide as the street itself. This would create access problems. Also it was felt that due to the fact that many of the pubs and clubs are not properly built they could have just collapsed into the hole. So another solution had to be found to the pressing dilemma. Someone at City hall had a lucid moment and decided to recommend that the PEA use the drains. Picture: Sophon Cable TV For some reason these are not in use so why not put the wires and cables in there! The PEA have completed a study and made a new proposal for the budget. Now all that remains is for the Pattaya mayor to sign off on the plan. It'll still mean some digging at around thirty places but Walking Street looks set to remain passable. Kiatisak was confident that the work would start at the end of this year. Just in time for high season, that probably won't happen, notes Thaivisa. Source: Sophon Cable TV -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-08-13 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 4
Popular Post KhunKenAP Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 Wit till next year when the city connects these lines to the sewage system. Then the s..t will hit the fan. lol 12
Popular Post ratcatcher Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) Gentrification of Walking Street It's strange that in so many cases, a picture is worth a thousand words. Edited August 13, 2020 by ratcatcher 1 9
Popular Post Bramley Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 What a load of garbled nonsense. Nobody is going to put cables (including electrical supply?) Into drains. And how can the 'pipe' (cable duct) need to be as wide as the street? ???? Don't they hace a civil engineer they can talk to? 6
Popular Post 86Tiger Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 What could go wrong? ???? 1 2
Popular Post Brunolem Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, webfact said: Someone at City hall had a lucid moment Now that's a good one! 4
Brunolem Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, webfact said: He said that the wire burying by the Provincial Electricity Authority was necessary to beautify Walking Street Necessary but not sufficient. Beautifying Walking Street, recently rebranded as Drive Thru Street, would require to bury all the buildings gracing both of its sides... but unfortunately the unused drains may not big enough to hide all these horrors... 1
Popular Post colinneil Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, webfact said: It involves using drains that are not in use. Just another totally brain dead idea, drains that are not in use, they will be full of s++t.???????????? 2 5
Popular Post BigStar Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bramley said: Nobody is going to put cables (including electrical supply?) Into drains. Yup, looks like they're going to exactly that. The drains are unused and a channel's a channel. Use what there is of the existing channel, modify as needed, and cover. Your problem? 1 hour ago, Bramley said: Don't they hace a civil engineer they can talk to? Well, they would have, but sadly all those ace TVF Civil Engineers who'd advised on the Tunnel construction all jumped out of balconies upon realizing that water flows downhill and the Tunnel was just never gon' flood. For days you could hardly stagger around Soi Buakhao without hearing the loud thud of a body hitting nearby. But don't give up hope. We've strong indications now that a new generation of ace keyboard engineers, safely confined at home, has arisen to offer sage advice, accompanied by the necessary chorus of sneers. Mind you, if Walking Street were torn up to dig new channels etc., that would be condemned just as loudly and suddenly real High Season is on--and utterly ruined! And no matter the result, if a single cable (say, an internet cable) is spotted above ground, as it surely will be, power cables the main issue, then the entire project will have failed and our beloved Thais Are Stupid narrative confirmed. Problem is, after the cables have been buried around town, the electrocutions seems to have stopped in those areas. Most would agree that's a good thing. You remember that Brit electrocuted by a fallen cable in 2009. We don't want our lads in danger, now do we? I love this forum! Edited August 13, 2020 by BigStar 3
RichardColeman Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, 86Tiger said: What could go wrong? ???? And , cut to bridge scene from Return of The living dead 2 1
transam Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 In the UK low tension cable were put 1.5 feet (45cm) underground, high tension a yard (90cm) with a cement high voltage slab above it. Two metres is a laugh. But these were a stout single cables with services joined to it where required. We could service a street in no time....
Popular Post Justgrazing Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: Gentrification of Walking Street will see unsightly cables buried underground they should leave it as it is .. it's all part of the charm of the place with added jeopardy .. 7
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 The title of the article was miswritten. It meant to say: "Electrification of Walking Street will see unsightly tourists and foreigners buried underground" 1 7
scammed Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) its a very good idea albeit a bit slow, hope they carry on with the rest of pattaya when done with WS Edited August 13, 2020 by scammed 1
Popular Post bluesofa Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: For some reason these are not in use so why not put the wires and cables in there! As a telecoms engineer in a previous life, it's all very well putting cables underground, but the telecoms and other cables need to be impervious in the ingress of moisture. Telecoms practice used to be to pump air into the cables at a specific pressure. It not only kept the water out, but if there was a fracturing the the cable it 1) kept the water out by pumping in more air at a higher pressure, and 2) a system was constantly monitoring the pressure in the cables. If for some reason there was more air suddenly being pumped in, it raised an alarm instantly letting the staff know there was a problem. I'm sure they'll be doing the same here 4 7
Popular Post Rimmer Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 Maybe not very well thought out as rats live in underground pipes and culverts and rats just love to eat cables 3 1
Popular Post Leaver Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 The plan has merit, if they inserted a smaller pipe into the drain pipe, and then ran the electrical and communication cables into the new pipe. If they are going to insert the electrical and communication cables straight into the drain pipe, it's doomed. 3
Popular Post bluesofa Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Leaver said: The plan has merit, if they inserted a smaller pipe into the drain pipe, and then ran the electrical and communication cables into the new pipe. If they are going to insert the electrical and communication cables straight into the drain pipe, it's doomed. Captain Mainwaring, doomed. 3
Leaver Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, bluesofa said: Captain Mainwaring, doomed. Well, whatever method they use, a degree of proficiency would be needed, so yes, most likely doomed. ???? Has anyone ever been in a gogo or club on Walking Street when the electricity went out? 2
Bender Rodriguez Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 3 hours ago, webfact said: digging a huge trench all the way along the street might have a detrimental effect on tourism in the area. what tourism ? 1
transam Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, Rimmer said: Maybe not very well thought out as rats live in underground pipes and culverts and rats just love to eat cables Yep, if armoured cable is not used in ducting, they will have a problem finding a fault...
scammed Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Leaver said: Well, whatever method they use, a degree of proficiency would be needed, so yes, most likely doomed. ???? Has anyone ever been in a gogo or club on Walking Street when the electricity went out? that is decades since, they all have backup generators, or the electric just works on WS
tlandtday Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, bluesofa said: Captain Mainwaring, doomed. 3 minutes ago, transam said: Yep, if armoured cable is not used in ducting, they will have a problem finding a fault... You can bet someone will cut corners and use the cheapest possible leading to further work and repairing thus more kickbacks. Sound familiar? 1 1
Popular Post bluesofa Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Leaver said: Well, whatever method they use, a degree of proficiency would be needed, so yes, most likely doomed. ???? Has anyone ever been in a gogo or club on Walking Street when the electricity went out? Looking at the GoGo bar and electricity from a different angle: The only GoGo in Udon was called the Wolverine. I remember being in there during a heavy rainstorm. I noticed none of the girls dancing were holding on to the poles. I asked one why? Apparently when the roof got wet the power cables did also, with the result that the metal framework in the ceiling supporting the poles became live. I suppose it was a type of barometer really - no one touching the poles, therefore it must be raining. 6
Popular Post bluesofa Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted August 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said: what tourism ? ..the new magazine for those interested in tourism. 3
bluesofa Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, transam said: Yep, if armoured cable is not used in ducting, they will have a problem finding a fault... Oh I dunno? Perhaps they could train dogs to sniff out cooked rats. 1
Kerryd Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 3 hours ago, webfact said: It involves using drains that are not in use. 3 hours ago, webfact said: For some reason these are not in use so why not put the wires and cables in there! I was here when they put those drains in. They dug a large ditch right down the middle of Walking Street, in the middle of High Season, and laid those pipes. Over 20 years ago. They should be asking why those drains weren't being used. What were they draining (storm/rain water or sewage) ? Where were the inlets ? Where was the outlet ? 3 hours ago, webfact said: The wires needed to be buried 1.5 to 2 meters underground. But it was felt that digging a huge trench all the way along the street might have a detrimental effect on tourism in the area. As noted about, that wasn't an issue 22 years ago. I remember walking on narrow sidewalks on each side of the ditch, in the pouring rain. 2 years later it was completed and I remember sitting beside the street during a monsoon and marvelling at how well the drainage was working. (You know all those nice hexagonal paving blocks that make up Walking Street ? That was when those were installed.) 3 hours ago, webfact said: with the pipe being as wide as the street itself. W.T.Freddie ? As wide as 2 lane road ?!?!? (Which is what Walking street is. Or was.) Each lane is what, nearly 3 meters wide ? So they were going to put in a pipe that was 6 meters in diameter !??!?! They are burying cables, not street cars ! C.rap, the work they are doing on Pattaya Tai isn't that big (as it isn't even a a single lane width for everything they are doing). Frik, a pipe the width of a 2 lane road, they may as well just say to h3ll with it and turn it into a subway tunnel. Got to believe that 10 years from now (or less) they'll be talking about plans to dig up Walking Street to install new storm drains as it seems the old ones were blocked off for some dumb reason and had electrical cables run through them. Cables which don't seem to go anywhere or connect to anything and are sitting in pipes full of old sewage. 1
Leaver Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, scammed said: that is decades since, they all have backup generators, or the electric just works on WS Don't know. I've never experienced a electricity outage while out on Walking Street.
ChouDoufu Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 4 hours ago, webfact said: It involves using drains that are not in use. 4 hours ago, webfact said: For some reason these are not in use so why not put the wires and cables in there! well, it's not raining..........now.
transam Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Leaver said: Don't know. I've never experienced a electricity outage while out on Walking Street. With zillions of cables hanging on lamp posts a fault can be sussed quite easily, when underground it is a different matter, I have the T-shirt, it was my job....???? 2
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