Biden to lay out vision for post-Trump America as he accepts Democratic nomination

[rcummings]

27 minutes ago, Morch said:

 As for your nonsense "reasoning", unless you're really invested in conspiracy-theory world-view, then most people would expect you to prove such exists, rather than others constantly disproving imaginary conspiracy theories you come up with. 

"unless you're really invested in conspiracy-theory world-view,"

No "unless" about it.

[xylophone]

5 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Well at least you freely admit that you're not a supporter of Biden and Harris and would vote their ticket only because you hate Trump.  And it appears, from the Trump examples of you've cited, that you're against lying and corruption and stupidity.  But the fact that Biden has been guilty of all of the same charges it seems you'll happily ignore all of that.  Do you buy the "honest Joe" moniker he's often been given?  LOL

You do have some strange takes on things, but then being a cult supporter, that's probably par for course.

I don't hate trump, I just hate everything that he stands for. And someone who would lie over 20,000 times on things which are plainly obvious lies should not get anyone's vote.

 

And before I sign off, because you know all about the lying, cheating, stealing, racist, misogynistic traits of trump, but choose to ignore them and try to pin those labels on Biden, well at least they have been proven to be true in trump's case........not just accusations from a cult follower.

 

And a word or two from the mouth of the huckster in the White House; Covfefe and Yo- Semites – – he can't even read from scripts/teleprompters he is that dumb.
 

Edited August 22, 2020 by xylophone

[Rimmer]

A troll post and replies have been removed

[riclag]

17 hours ago, Berkshire said:

When Trump is out of office...hopefully Jan 2021, someone needs to do some in-depth research into the minds of Trump supporters.  I can understand people who have something to gain, e.g., Fox News, those slimy Republicans in the Senate, coal barons, Putin, etc.  But to the rest, I just want to understand.  I tend to believe there is something seriously wrong with these people. 

Yes, people who don't think alike have some serious issues(something wrong).lol

 There in lies the  far lefts radical image of those that don't always adhere or conform  to their values,ideology and political beliefs !

 You stick with the guy who's been using the same rhetoric(and thats all it is) for the last 40 years and who's politics and globalist agenda, that has helped create Mr. Trump and I'll stick with the guy who opposes all of bidens and his socialist/marxist supporters Utopian agenda!  

 Just my opinion,  a swing voter who until Mr. Trump always voted dem!

Politicians and biden are to cheeky for me.

Edited August 23, 2020 by riclag

[TopDeadSenter]

On 8/22/2020 at 7:25 AM, Tug said:

I’ve allways thought highly of pres barrack and first lady’s Michelle’s skills as orator but joe really surprised me that was a world class top drawer speech

Maybe "top drawer" was pushing it. Turns out it was badly plagiarized drivel, not the first time such charges have been laid against Biden. If people are accusing Biden of losing his marbles, plagiarizing an old speech will not help his defense much. Still, his fans seem happy.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/22/joe-biden-faces-plagiarism-claim-over-dnc-acceptance-speech/

[stevenl]

15 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Maybe "top drawer" was pushing it. Turns out it was badly plagiarized drivel, not the first time such charges have been laid against Biden. If people are accusing Biden of losing his marbles, plagiarizing an old speech will not help his defense much. Still, his fans seem happy.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/22/joe-biden-faces-plagiarism-claim-over-dnc-acceptance-speech/

So now that media source is stooping as low as it gets, with copying Trump's namecalling in the first line.

Nothing much in the accusation btw, won't gain any traction.

[stevenl]

24 minutes ago, riclag said:

Yes, people who don't think alike have some serious issues(something wrong).lol

 There in lies the  far lefts radical image of those that don't always adhere or conform  to their values,ideology and political beliefs !

 You stick with the guy who's been using the same rhetoric(and thats all it is) for the last 40 years and who's politics and globalist agenda, that has helped create Mr. Trump and I'll stick with the guy who opposes all of bidens and his socialist/marxist supporters Utopian agenda!  

 Just my opinion,  a swing voter who until Mr. Trump always voted dem!

Politicians and biden are to cheeky for me.

Are you seriously trying to tell us you voted Obama twice? That you're one of the 'don't like Trump but the opposition is worse' guys? ROFL.

On the upside, if even you are stopping with the unequivocal support for Trump that could be called you're gaining insight.

[Berkshire]

18 minutes ago, riclag said:

17 hours ago, Berkshire said:

When Trump is out of office...hopefully Jan 2021, someone needs to do some in-depth research into the minds of Trump supporters.  I can understand people who have something to gain, e.g., Fox News, those slimy Republicans in the Senate, coal barons, Putin, etc.  But to the rest, I just want to understand.  I tend to believe there is something seriously wrong with these people. 

Yes, people who don't think alike have some serious issues(something wrong).lol

 There in lies the  far lefts radical image of those that don't always adhere or conform  to their values,ideology and political beliefs !

That's not it at all.  Imagine you have a co-worker who lies all the time.  Is selfish and lazy.  Likes to take credit for other people's work, then blames everyone else for his shortcomings.  Bullies people by calling them names, whether they're old, women, handicapped, minorities, etc.  Criticizes people for actions that he then does himself.  Never admits when he's wrong and is wrong a lot.  Just an awful human being.

 

I'd want nothing to do with such a person.  But even more, I'd serious wonder about anyone who admires or supports such a person.

 

[pedro01]

On 8/21/2020 at 11:36 AM, Jingthing said:

The best speech Biden has ever made. Now that's how a president should be. For all the people not only her fans. 

 

If he doesn't overcome the guaranteed dirty tricks of loser 45 we can write off American democracy as done and dusted. 

His speech writer, selected by those around Biden, deserve all the praise. 

 

He'll still lose. Moderates will swing to Trump

[pedro01]

17 hours ago, Berkshire said:

When Trump is out of office...hopefully Jan 2021, someone needs to do some in-depth research into the minds of Trump supporters.  I can understand people who have something to gain, e.g., Fox News, those slimy Republicans in the Senate, coal barons, Putin, etc.  But to the rest, I just want to understand.  I tend to believe there is something seriously wrong with these people. 

You mean those whe don't want the police defined, streets on fire? 

 

That's what will lose the Dems this election. 

 

It was theirs to win. 

[Berkshire]

1 minute ago, pedro01 said:

You mean those whe don't want the police defined, streets on fire? 

 

That's what will lose the Dems this election. 

 

It was theirs to win. 

The current riots and lawlessness is happening under Trump.  Talk to him about it.

[Tippaporn]

47 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Maybe "top drawer" was pushing it. Turns out it was badly plagiarized drivel, not the first time such charges have been laid against Biden. If people are accusing Biden of losing his marbles, plagiarizing an old speech will not help his defense much. Still, his fans seem happy.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/22/joe-biden-faces-plagiarism-claim-over-dnc-acceptance-speech/

I thought Biden's speech was terrible.  It did not appear genuine in the least but forced.  Some call it impassioned.  To me the passionate parts made me laugh out loud as it was so obviously contrived.

 

Not only did he once again plagiarize but he also repeated the long since debunked lie that Trump was referring to Neo-Nazis as fine people.  

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed. 

 

[Orton Rd]

Biden is just reading what somebody else wrote off an auto screen, lets see how he does in a debate on Tv

[Tagged]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Yes, people who don't think alike have some serious issues(something wrong).lol

 There in lies the  far lefts radical image of those that don't always adhere or conform  to their values,ideology and political beliefs !

 You stick with the guy who's been using the same rhetoric(and thats all it is) for the last 40 years and who's politics and globalist agenda, that has helped create Mr. Trump and I'll stick with the guy who opposes all of bidens and his socialist/marxist supporters Utopian agenda!  

 Just my opinion,  a swing voter who until Mr. Trump always voted dem!

Politicians and biden are to cheeky for me.

Well there is a difference between good and bad, truth and lies, healthy politics and unhealthy, solid and furured or risky with consequenses! The biggest consequens is loss of allies! Pick your choice

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Yes, people who don't think alike have some serious issues(something wrong).lol

 There in lies the  far lefts radical image of those that don't always adhere or conform  to their values,ideology and political beliefs !

 You stick with the guy who's been using the same rhetoric(and thats all it is) for the last 40 years and who's politics and globalist agenda, that has helped create Mr. Trump and I'll stick with the guy who opposes all of bidens and his socialist/marxist supporters Utopian agenda!  

 Just my opinion,  a swing voter who until Mr. Trump always voted dem!

Politicians and biden are to cheeky for me.

You have been asked on numerous occassions on numerous threads to demonstrate how Biden/ Harris and /or the Dem party are 'far lefts (sic) radicals' and/or espouse 'socialist/marxist' views. Your steadfast refusal to do so completely negates any and all attempts by you to pin these spurious claims on these people.

Either start giving some soild examples of these claims (Dem policy will do) so we can get a chance to refute or please refrain from what is very obvious baiting. 

[TopDeadSenter]

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

The current riots and lawlessness is happening under Trump.  Talk to him about it.

Interesting. So it's "riots and lawlessness" now? Before they were "largely peaceful protests". Riots is much more accurate. But because they are trying to change the political status quo using violence and intimidation they are IMO more accurately called terrorists. Still, the worst violence and chaos is happening in Portland, Seattle, Chicago(although not on Mayor Lightfoot's block - her family deserve to be safe), NYC and St.Louis which have one thing in common. They are all democrat run. 

 I wonder if the voters in these anarchic states are impressed by the democrat leaders tacit support for those that made the streets unsafe? Guess not.

Edited August 23, 2020 by TopDeadSenter

[Scott]

Off-topic post and reply removed.  

 

[rcummings]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Yes, people who don't think alike have some serious issues(something wrong).lol

 There in lies the  far lefts radical image of those that don't always adhere or conform  to their values,ideology and political beliefs !

 You stick with the guy who's been using the same rhetoric(and thats all it is) for the last 40 years and who's politics and globalist agenda, that has helped create Mr. Trump and I'll stick with the guy who opposes all of bidens and his socialist/marxist supporters Utopian agenda!  

 Just my opinion,  a swing voter who until Mr. Trump always voted dem!

Politicians and biden are to cheeky for me.

Since Obama's signature achievement was Obamacare, you must be devastated by Mr. Trump's attempts to abolish it. Especially since he's offered nothing to replace it with. Clearly someone who charactsrizes Biden's supporters as Socialist-Utopian must always have voted for Democratic Presidential candidates.

 

 

To put it another way, who do you think you are fooling?

[pedro01]

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

The current riots and lawlessness is happening under Trump.  Talk to him about it.

In democratic governed states that are letting it happen as a political tool.

 

As your post does. 

[johnnybangkok]

33 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

 

Joe Biden stressed during his speech that he would unite all Americans.  Here's his chance and let's see how he performs.

 

Outside of the DNC convention, Joe Biden supporters attacked a 7 year-old boy for wearing a MAGA hat.  This went absolutely viral.  Both Don Jr. and Eric Trump tweeted that they will replace the kid's hat.  Do you think Joe would make the same offer?  Do you think he'd denounce the two women's actions?  Do you think he would disavow any and all Democrat supporters who engage in violence against his opposition?  Do you think he would speak to the subject of each person having the right to support the candidate of their choice without fear of threat or violence?  Will he attempt to use this incident to unite all Americans?  I doubt Joe will even acknowledge the incident.

What's there to comment on? A couple of rathy hefty women acting like 7 year olds themselves doesn't represent the Dem party. There are stupid people in the Dem party as well; although I would say they don't hold a (tikky) torch to Trump supporters. 

If Biden commented on every idiotic incident that was going on in America right now then he wouldn't have any time to work on policy. Trump on the other hand does seem to have plenty of time on his hands since he seems to Tweet EVERY single thing going on; whether it's his views on Bill Maher, or promoting Lou Dobbs new book, or the FDA revoking its emergency use authorization of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, the 'deep state' (of course),  Goodyears zero tolerance policy and of course 'crooked Hilary'. 

He did however have time to golf. Even as his brother lay dying in his bed. 

For someone with the biggest job in the world he ceretainly seems to have plenty of spare time. 

[pedro01]

10 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Interesting. So it's "riots and lawlessness" now? Before they were "largely peaceful protests". Riots is much more accurate. But because they are trying to change the political status quo using violence and intimidation they are IMO more accurately called terrorists. Still, the worst violence and chaos is happening in Portland, Seattle, Chicago(although not on Mayor Lightfoot's block - her family deserve to be safe), NYC and St.Louis which have one thing in common. They are all democrat run. 

 I wonder if the voters in these anarchic states are impressed by the democrat leaders tacit support for those that made the streets unsafe? Guess not.

Most likely it'll push swing voters in those areas to Trumps side. 

 

But don't expect them to voice their opinions. There's a succesful US business woman at the resort I am in that is pro Trump but cannot tell her LA friends as she will lose them. 

 

This is going to be very interesting. I don't think this fear of voicing your opinion has happened before. The secret Trumpsters... 

[johnnybangkok]

21 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Interesting. So it's "riots and lawlessness" now? Before they were "largely peaceful protests". Riots is much more accurate. But because they are trying to change the political status quo using violence and intimidation they are IMO more accurately called terrorists. Still, the worst violence and chaos is happening in Portland, Seattle, Chicago(although not on Mayor Lightfoot's block - her family deserve to be safe), NYC and St.Louis which have one thing in common. They are all democrat run. 

 I wonder if the voters in these anarchic states are impressed by the democrat leaders tacit support for those that made the streets unsafe? Guess not.

It's always been riots and lawlessness. I have yet to see a single 'lib' on this forum call it anything else. They are not 'terrorists' precisely because they are not trying to change the political status. They're looking for some trouble and a free pair of Gucci's if they can.

And since we all know that correlation does not imply causation, your attempt to blame Dems, BLM and/or Antifi for the looters would be the equivalent of blaming the NRA for school shootings. Since I doubt any gun loving GOP supporter here would try that, I think you should give up the ghost with your spurios attempts to blame anyone but a bunch of hooligans for the hooligan antics going on.  

[johnnybangkok]

7 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

It's always been riots and lawlessness. I have yet to see a single 'lib' on this forum call it anything else. They are not 'terrorists' precisely because they are not trying to change the political status. They're looking for some trouble and a free pair of Gucci's if they can.

And since we all know that correlation does not imply causation, your attempt to blame Dems, BLM and/or Antifi for the looters would be the equivalent of blaming the NRA for school shootings. Since I doubt any gun loving GOP supporter here would try that, I think you should give up the ghost with your spurios attempts to blame anyone but a bunch of hooligans for the hooligan antics going on.  

And why we are on the subject it isn't just left-wing riots any more:-

'Right-wing groups had announced a rally near the Justice Center (Portland) Saturday afternoon that quickly drew counter demonstrators. The building houses a police precinct, police headquarters, a county jail and courtrooms and is next door to a federal courthouse that was targeted for weeks last month by left-wing protesters who clashed with federal agents dispatched to Portland to protect it.

The protesters at Saturday's demonstration included the Proud Boys right-wing group and left-wing protest groups Democratic Socialists of America and Popular Mobilization, The Oregonian/OregonLive reported'. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/smoke-fills-air-portland-police-clear-riot-precinct-72538560

Trouble is being stoked on both sides. Both should be condemned.

 

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, pedro01 said:

Most likely it'll push swing voters in those areas to Trumps side. 

 

But don't expect them to voice their opinions. There's a succesful US business woman at the resort I am in that is pro Trump but cannot tell her LA friends as she will lose them. 

 

This is going to be very interesting. I don't think this fear of voicing your opinion has happened before. The secret Trumpsters... 

alien sperm helping to keep them secret

[Kelsall]

2 hours ago, pedro01 said:

Most likely it'll push swing voters in those areas to Trumps side. 

 

But don't expect them to voice their opinions. There's a succesful US business woman at the resort I am in that is pro Trump but cannot tell her LA friends as she will lose them. 

 

This is going to be very interesting. I don't think this fear of voicing your opinion has happened before. The secret Trumpsters... 

I have a friend in LA in the exact same position.  He feeds me excellent pro Trump meme's that he will not post on FB, but I do.  I believe there are millions of silent Trump supporters.

[Phoenix Rising]

22 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

I have a friend in LA in the exact same position.  He feeds me excellent pro Trump meme's that he will not post on FB, but I do.  I believe there are millions of silent Trump supporters.

Do you believe in the QuackAnon (sp?) conspiracy as well?

Edited August 23, 2020 by Phoenix Rising

[Brigand]

Biden needs to start coming out with some serious policy which he has been extremely light on thus far. Needs to make there be some clear water between him and Trump as just banging the hate Trump drum might not be enough.

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, Kelsall said:

I have a friend in LA in the exact same position.  He feeds me excellent pro Trump meme's that he will not post on FB, but I do.  I believe there are millions of silent Trump supporters.

Here's hoping they remain silent.

[johnnybangkok]

9 minutes ago, Brigand said:

Biden needs to start coming out with some serious policy which he has been extremely light on thus far. Needs to make there be some clear water between him and Trump as just banging the hate Trump drum might not be enough.

I thought he outlined the main ones quite clearly;-

1. First day in office, get on top of the pandemic.

2. Make sure medicare and Obamacare are protected.

3. Unite the country.

 

If however you want to hear his policies on 46 other main issues (from opening the schools safely to bankruptcy reform) you can read them all here https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/.