Linspire

[Gary A]

After all the trouble getting Linspire installed, I have seen absolutely no reason to continue to use it. It is pretty smart as far as everything working and containing drivers for everything I plugged into it. There are a couple thousand programs available through the built in down loader and Firefox works fine. I was very disappointed that it is MUCH slower than Windows XP Pro. It takes forever to boot and way to long to even shut down. I hate the lag that sometimes occurs when typing something. It is installed as stand alone on a 7,200 RPM hard drive. Are all the Debian systems that slow? Even Open Office is very slow to load.

[jackk]

There's probably something wrong. I use Debian and Ubuntu and start up/shutdown are fast, as well as running apps. But it's difficult to know what's wrong in your case.

Regarding the "forever to boot" part, do you have some FAT/FAT32 partitions (dual boot Linux/Windows)? In that case, during the boot process, Linux always does a scandisk. It is very fast on Linux partitions (ext3, reiser..) but terribly slow on FAT because it's not a journaling file system. You can disable the FAT/FAT32 scan by editing /etc/fstab.

Each line has 6 columns. Set the last column digit to '0' instead of 1. Do that only for FAT partitions! More info about fstab here:

http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html

[Gary A]

There's probably something wrong. I use Debian and Ubuntu and start up/shutdown are fast, as well as running apps. But it's difficult to know what's wrong in your case.

Regarding the "forever to boot" part, do you have some FAT/FAT32 partitions (dual boot Linux/Windows)? In that case, during the boot process, Linux always does a scandisk. It is very fast on Linux partitions (ext3, reiser..) but terribly slow on FAT because it's not a journaling file system. You can disable the FAT/FAT32 scan by editing /etc/fstab.

Each line has 6 columns. Set the last column digit to '0' instead of 1. Do that only for FAT partitions! More info about fstab here:

http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html

Once I got the thing to boot up, it asked me if I wanted it to take over the entire disk. I answered yes and it formatted the disk and installed itself. There is nothing else on the hard drive. I really have no idea how the disk was formatted because it gave me no choices.

[Gary A]

I typed in the command but have no idea what this means;

rootfs / reiserfs comment=jiffymount,noatime,nodiratime,rw 0 0

none /proc proc defaults 0 0

none /sys sysfs defaults 0 0

none /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults 0 0

none /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0

tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0

/boot/linux-swap.swp none swap sw 0 0

/dev/floppy/0 /mnt/floppy1 auto comment=jiffymount,noatime,nodiratime,user,exec,dev,suid,noauto 0 0

/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd /mnt/cdrom1 supermount comment=jiffymount,dev=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd,fs=iso9660,--,ro,user,exec,unhide 0 0

/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd /mnt/cdrom0 supermount comment=jiffymount,dev=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd,fs=iso9660,--,ro,user,exec,unhide 0 0

[jackk]

That's OK, nothing to worry about fstab then. It just shows how your partitions are mounted, checked etc...

You can boot in verbose mode (press Escape key) so you could see why it is slow. Also maybe disable some useless services loaded during boot (POP, SMTP...).

On my laptop (2Ghz with 2Gb RAM) the boot process takes only 28 seconds.

[Gumballl]

GaryA -

Applications run in RAM, not on the Hard Drive. How much memory does your PC have? With most modern Linux distros, 512MB of RAM is recommended. The speedy HD you have will serve you well when accessing data from the drive.

Anyhow, don't judge Linux with Linspire. Many folks have had success with Fedora Core, Red Hat, and Ubuntu (btw, I think this is the Swahili word for Linux ).

To see what is running on your system, run the following command (ps -ef) from an xterm and post the results so that I and others can examine why your system is running slow.

Edited May 5, 2007 by Gumballl

[Gary A]

GaryA -

Applications run in RAM, not on the Hard Drive. How much memory does your PC have? With most modern Linux distros, 512MB of RAM is recommended. The speedy HD you have will serve you well when accessing data from the drive.

Anyhow, don't judge Linux with Linspire. Many folks have had success with Fedora Core, Red Hat, and Ubuntu (btw, I think this is the Swahili word for Linux ).

To see what is running on your system, run the following command (ps -ef) from an xterm and post the results so that I and others can examine why your system is running slow.

My computer has a gig of ram, SATA 7200 rpm hard drive and a 2.66 ghz processor. I'll change hard drives and try to get that information to post.

[Gary A]

GaryA -

Applications run in RAM, not on the Hard Drive. How much memory does your PC have? With most modern Linux distros, 512MB of RAM is recommended. The speedy HD you have will serve you well when accessing data from the drive.

Anyhow, don't judge Linux with Linspire. Many folks have had success with Fedora Core, Red Hat, and Ubuntu (btw, I think this is the Swahili word for Linux ).

To see what is running on your system, run the following command (ps -ef) from an xterm and post the results so that I and others can examine why your system is running slow.

My computer has a gig of ram, SATA 7200 rpm hard drive and a 2.66 ghz processor. I'll change hard drives and try to get that information to post.

UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD

root 1 0 0 00:07 ? 00:00:01 init [2]

root 2 1 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [ksoftirqd/0]

root 3 1 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [events/0]

root 4 1 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [khelper]

root 5 1 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [kthread]

root 7 5 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [kacpid]

root 94 5 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [kblockd/0]

root 131 5 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [pdflush]

root 132 5 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [pdflush]

root 134 5 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [aio/0]

root 133 1 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [kswapd0]

root 724 5 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [kseriod]

root 801 5 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [khubd]

root 1170 5 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [ata/0]

root 1173 5 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_0]

root 1181 5 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_1]

root 1200 1 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [khpsbpkt]

root 1205 1 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [knodemgrd_0]

root 1211 5 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_2]

root 1212 5 0 00:07 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_3]

root 1639 5 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 [reiserfs/0]

root 1649 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 udevd

root 4263 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 [shpchpd_event]

root 4608 5 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 [kgameportd]

root 5037 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.

daemon 5060 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/portmap

root 5202 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/syslogd

root 5207 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/klogd

root 5360 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/eve

102 5370 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:01 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system

root 5378 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd

hal 5379 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/hald

hal 5419 5379 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-storage

hal 5424 5379 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-storage

root 5432 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:02 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/python2

root 5439 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/inetd

daemon 5627 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/mDNSResponder -f /etc/

root 5660 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/X11/xfs -daemon

root 5779 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /bin/bash /etc/rc2.d/S20xprint p

root 5780 5779 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /bin/bash /etc/rc2.d/S20xprint p

root 5781 5780 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/Xprt -ac -pn -nolisten

root 5783 5779 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /bin/bash /etc/rc2.d/S20xprint p

root 5795 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.

root 5797 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd

root 5799 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd

root 5809 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron

root 5856 1 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ldm

root 5857 5856 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/X11/startx /usr

root 5878 1 0 00:08 tty1 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1

root 5879 1 0 00:08 tty2 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2

root 5880 1 0 00:08 tty3 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3

root 5881 1 0 00:08 tty4 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4

root 5882 1 0 00:08 tty5 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5

root 5883 1 0 00:08 tty6 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6

root 5912 5857 0 00:08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit /usr/bin/ld

root 5913 5912 2 00:08 tty7 00:00:24 /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -noliste

root 5929 5912 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/x-session-manag

root 5943 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server

root 5999 5929 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus

root 6002 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with

root 6003 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 9

root 6238 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit Running...

root 6243 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 dcopserver [kdeinit] dcopserver

root 6245 6238 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 klauncher [kdeinit] klauncher

root 6248 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 kded [kdeinit] kded

root 6258 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:05 /usr/bin/jackstart --realtime --

root 6278 6238 0 00:09 ? 00:00:02 artsd -F 5 -S 2048 -a jack -d -m

root 6281 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 knotify [kdeinit] knotify

root 6284 5929 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 kwrapper ksmserver

root 6293 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 ksmserver [kdeinit] ksmserver

root 6296 6238 0 00:09 ? 00:00:02 kwin [kdeinit] kwin

root 6301 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 khotkeys [kdeinit] khotkeys

root 6298 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 kmix [kdeinit] kmix

root 6308 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:02 kdesktop [kdeinit] kdesktop

root 6330 6238 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit] kio_file file

root 6335 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/autorun -b 6284

root 6364 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:06 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/python2

root 6396 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/cnrwarehouse --fromboot

root 6401 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/cnrtrayicons

root 6408 1 0 00:09 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/cnrdaemon

root 6852 1 0 00:16 ? 00:00:01 kicker [kdeinit] kicker

root 6860 6238 0 00:16 ? 00:00:00 konqueror [kdeinit] konqueror --

root 6948 1 0 00:19 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2 5

root 6956 1 0 00:19 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/launch-firefox

root 6957 6956 0 00:19 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh -x /usr/bin/audiowrapper

root 6959 6957 0 00:19 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/firefox

root 6966 6959 0 00:19 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox/run-moz

root 6971 6966 4 00:19 ? 00:00:18 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin

root 6984 6971 0 00:19 ? 00:00:00 [netstat] <defunct>

root 7121 6238 0 00:25 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/openoffice/prog

root 7134 7121 11 00:25 ? 00:00:08 /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soff

root 7169 6308 62 00:26 ? 00:00:00 konsole --noclose -e /bin/sh -c

root 7171 7169 0 00:26 pts/1 00:00:00 ps -ef

[Gumballl]

GaryA -

I assume because of your last post that your system is still running slow. I am not familiar with KDE (I use Gnome), but see if there is an administrative tool that permits you to start/stop daemons. One service on your system that probably should be stopped is mDNSResponder.

Here's a link to some info on Bonjour, which mDNSResponder uses. If you are running a single computer (with Linspire) then you definitely do not need this service running.

Btw, under normal circumstances, consider running KDE (i.e. logging in) as a regular user, not root.

Edited May 14, 2007 by Gumballl