Black man shot in back by police in Wisconsin city, governor says, curfew imposed

[candide]

2 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Police shoot one guy seven times in the back and a seventeen year vigilante walks around with an assualt rifle shooting people dead, what a messed up country the USA is. Likely to get a lot worse nearer to the election.

Somehow I feel sorry for this young guy. Stupid familly who incite a kid to play with guns and allow a 17 yo guy to go to confront protesters with a rifle. Stupid cops who welcomed an underage boy with a rifle (or anyone with weapons) to a protest.

You are right, what a messed up country!

Edited August 28, 2020 by candide

[kingdong]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Somehow I feel sorry for this young guy. Stupid familly who incite a kid to play with guns and allow a 17 yo guy to go to confront protesters with a rifle. Stupid cops who welcomed an underage boy with a riffle (or anyone with weapons) to a protest.

You are right, what a messed up country!

whats a riffle?

[candide]

3 minutes ago, kingdong said:

whats a riffle?

Heavy hand. Thank you! Corrected.

[Tie Dye Samurai]

8 minutes ago, candide said:

Somehow I feel sorry for this young guy. Stupid familly who incite a kid to play with guns and allow a 17 yo guy to go to confront protesters with a rifle. Stupid cops who welcomed an underage boy with a rifle (or anyone with weapons) to a protest.

You are right, what a messed up country!

There is something just way creepy and disturbing with this picture in light of what he was just involved in...he looks like he should be in Lord Of The Flies...

[torturedsole]

5 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Instead he was trying to surrender. That’s why he’s not dead.

I'm glad I'm not the only one to have noticed this.  The kid was giving himself up and immediately the speakers started blaring to get the hell out of the road.  The kid tried again with an armoured truck and was again instructed to get out of the way.  I suspect with the radios blaring and sense of urgency on the call the police didn't understand the significance of the kid standing in front of their vehicles.  The rifle wouldn't have made any difference to their reaction unless he was pointing it at them, and if he did that they would've slotted him there and then.  

 

On a personal note, I thought this kid showed great discipline and courage.  Had he remained on the ground any longer he would have been murdered there and then by the baying mob.  Not sure why a 17 year old boy has to pick up the slack for what the police should be doing, but there you go.  

 

 

[candide]

19 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

There is something just way creepy and disturbing with this picture in light of what he was just involved in...he looks like he should be in Lord Of The Flies...

The poor kid was surely convinced he was the good guy. His parents convinced him, the police welcomed him.

How could a decent familly let a 17 yo boy go to a protest with an automatic rifle? What a shame! Would any TVF poster allow their kids to do that?

 

How could decent cops welcome a teenager with a rifle to a protest? Why didn't they tell him to go back home and spend the night with his PlayStation?

This poor kid has now his life <deleted> up because of stupid adults who failed to protect him.

[torturedsole]

19 minutes ago, candide said:

How could decent cops welcome a teenager with a rifle to a protest? Why didn't they tell him to go back home and spend the night with his PlayStation?

It's a grey area but the kid wasn't necessarily breaking any laws by attending a protest with a semi-automatic rifle.  Not being argumentative but that's how it is.

[Damrongsak]

1 hour ago, candide said:

The poor kid was surely convinced he was the good guy. His parents convinced him, the police welcomed him.

How could a decent familly let a 17 yo boy go to a protest with an automatic rifle? What a shame! Would any TVF poster allow their kids to do that?

 

How could decent cops welcome a teenager with a rifle to a protest? Why didn't they tell him to go back home and spend the night with his PlayStation?

This poor kid has now his life <deleted> up because of stupid adults who failed to protect him.

Yeah, my older boy bought it at age 20, so it goes.  https://jrhsnjrotc.org/in-memoriam-lance-corporal-karl-r-linn

 

 

[candide]

1 hour ago, torturedsole said:

It's a grey area but the kid wasn't necessarily breaking any laws by attending a protest with a semi-automatic rifle.  Not being argumentative but that's how it is.

You may be right. However, they could have advised him to go home.

[Scott]

Off-topic, troll posts reported and removed.  

 

[torturedsole]

37 minutes ago, candide said:

You may be right. However, they could have advised him to go home.

In fairness, the police weren't doing much at all, other than being reactive rather than proactive.  

 

If the boy had had a handgun then the law is a little more clear, which is odd seeing as the long gun is far more lethal, in my opinion.  But, laws are laws and I'm not out to change the world but I do have a lot of respect for the lad.  I also come from a line of police officers - which stopped at me - but I'm all for upholding the law.  

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by torturedsole

[kingdong]

3 hours ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

There is something just way creepy and disturbing with this picture in light of what he was just involved in...he looks like he should be in Lord Of The Flies...

well don,t worry about the time and expense of a legal trial,just take him round the back and shoot him

[Mama Noodle]

Blake’s lawyer:

 

 

The charges for the original warrant that the cops knew about:
 

https://archive.is/YcYRU

 

What’s interesting is that in the original police scanner audio I posted, Blake was taking someone’s car keys and refusing to give them back. Keep that in mind when you read the court docs in the archive. 

[simple1]

10 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Now here’s a real article, not an opinion piece, with real source material, real video, and real court document citations. 
 

Kenosha Court Docs Suggest Shooting Was Self-Defense; New Video Shows Another Gun Shot First

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/kenosha-court-docs-suggest-shooting-was-self-defense-new-video-shows-another-gun-shot-first

I read the link. You have, perhaps deliberately, misrepresented the content, no wonder the killer has been charged with first degree homicide.

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

I read the link. You have, perhaps deliberately, misrepresented the content, no wonder the killer has been charged with first degree homicide.

I posted literally only the headline and the link and zero opinion so how could I have possibly “misrepresented” anything ????

[simple1]

3 hours ago, torturedsole said:

It's a grey area but the kid wasn't necessarily breaking any laws by attending a protest with a semi-automatic rifle.  Not being argumentative but that's how it is.

Not what I've read - the guy was breaking local law as underage to open carry the weapon. 

[simple1]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

I posted literally only the headline and the link and zero opinion so how could I have possibly “misrepresented” anything ????

The intent was very clear - overdue for you to stop playing silly games

[ben2talk]

On 8/24/2020 at 6:14 PM, Puchaiyank said:

Why aren't the blacks policing their own neighborhoods?

Not a racist comment, right?

[ben2talk]

Typical. Only an issue because he's black... police officers scream "DROP THE KNIFE, DROP THE KNIFE". He can see guns pointed at him, yet continues to walk over to open his car door, and lean in over the seat where he cannot be seen.

[xylophone]

21 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

You didn't answer my question.  You just posted something wholly irrelevant to my question.  Why?  I'll have to assume it's because you can't answer it.  You needn't go through such great lengths to avoid it, though.

LOL...........if you can't see the relevance of my post to your "questions" then there is no hope for you, or you are a republican!!!!

 

Quote: "Wisconsin isn’t a “Stand Your Ground” state, and Rittenhouse was in illegal possession of a weapon — under Wisconsin law, it is a Class A misdemeanor for a minor to carry a deadly weapon in the open. There is also no legal right in the state to use deadly force for the protection of property you do not own. And in any case the “Castle Doctrine” only applies to the use of deadly force in one’s home, vehicle or business.

Edited August 29, 2020 by xylophone

[ravip]

With all these incidents and how some people justify them, It is very obvious who the real racists are, on this planet.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

On 8/28/2020 at 12:32 PM, candide said:

Somehow I feel sorry for this young guy. Stupid familly who incite a kid to play with guns and allow a 17 yo guy to go to confront protesters with a rifle. Stupid cops who welcomed an underage boy with a rifle (or anyone with weapons) to a protest.

You are right, what a messed up country!

 

Baby faced and shooting a rifle...

 

How the police who came into close contact with him prior to the shootings could not have recognized or at least questioned that he's a juvie is hard to fathom... Or maybe they did recognize, and just didn't care.

 

Now, if he had been a BLACK teenager with a rifle out amid the chaos, somehow I'm wondering if the local cops would have been passing out water bottles, or perhaps doing something else...

Edited August 29, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[ravip]

4 hours ago, ben2talk said:

Typical. Only an issue because he's black... police officers scream "DROP THE KNIFE, DROP THE KNIFE". He can see guns pointed at him, yet continues to walk over to open his car door, and lean in over the seat where he cannot be seen.

So... shoot him

[candide]

32 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Baby faced and shooting a rifle...

 

How the police who came into close contact with him prior to the shootings could not have recognized or at least questioned that he's a juvie is hard to fathom... Or maybe they did recognize, and just didn't care.

 

Now, if he had been a BLACK teenager with a rifle out amid the chaos, somehow I'm wondering if the local cops would have been passing out water bottles, or perhaps doing something else...

Right! And how his parents could allow that is beyond me.

 

"Mum, I'm going to the protest with my rifle!"

"Ok, have a glass of milk first! And don't forget to take extra ammunition, you airhead!"

Edited August 29, 2020 by candide

[Rimmer]

A troll meme and a reply have been removed

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, candide said:

Right! And how his parents could allow that is beyond me.

 

"Mum, I'm going to the protest with my rifle!"

"Ok, have a glass of milk first! And don't forget to take extra ammunition, you airhead!"

 

I asked the same questions earlier in this thread -- where was Mom when he was posting online videos assembling and shooting his rifles... and again... where was Mom when he was out late the other night and traveling 20+ miles away from home with his rifles and related gear?  Did she even know he was going out loaded?  And if so, what exactly did she think he was going to be up to?

 

 

 

[ravip]

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I asked the same questions earlier in this thread -- where was Mom when he was posting online videos assembling and shooting his rifles... and again... where was Mom when he was out late the other night and traveling 20+ miles away from home with his rifles and related gear?  Did she even know he was going out loaded?  And if so, what exactly did she think he was going to be up to?

 

 

 

Mom & Dad are too busy these days to care for their kids...

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, ravip said:

Mom & Dad are too busy these days to care for their kids...

 

I thought I saw in one of the articles I read referring to her as "a single mom".  I haven't seen any mention of a present father that I can recall.

 

 

[ravip]

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I thought I saw in one of the articles I read referring to her as "a single mom".  I haven't seen any mention of a present father that I can recall.

 

 

My comment was referring to 'in general'...

[Sujo]

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Baby faced and shooting a rifle...

 

How the police who came into close contact with him prior to the shootings could not have recognized or at least questioned that he's a juvie is hard to fathom... Or maybe they did recognize, and just didn't care.

 

Now, if he had been a BLACK teenager with a rifle out amid the chaos, somehow I'm wondering if the local cops would have been passing out water bottles, or perhaps doing something else...

Not only did police come in close contact, they handed out bottles of water to them and thanked them for being there.

 

Instead they should have been arrested for breaking curfew.